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Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:03 pm

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In post 3597, Nero Cain wrote:in fairness, he's sad and tired but I'm not the biggest fan of his reaction posting tonight
I think he's showing a lack of fear to post in the thread. I think there's a possibility his play will improve once he gets off tilt.
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Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:03 pm

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In post 3596, Thestatusquo wrote:I did evaluate them.
ok, then why did you say that i still townleaned you and that "The only thing that changed since then was datisi voted for me and guiltylion said he didnt vibe with some of my stuff" when that is just clearly not true?
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Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:06 pm

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In post 3598, Thestatusquo wrote:I dont give a crap what you think. Honestly the thing I'm most looking forward to this game is you being wrong and rationalizing it to yourself.
yep, it's all my fault. Your posting has been the epitome of townie play and we all pale in comparison to your grandeur, oh mighty one. Relly was so town and I am such a fucking moron for thinking he's scummy. All these mindless drones following me around like I'm the pied piper.

but your posts talking about us having the courtesy to lim you before morning and you want to be limmed so you can re"retire" are just offputting.
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Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:32 pm

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Does anyone with experience playing with town!Dannflor have a recollection of Dannflor feeling pretty flat, tone-wise?
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Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:10 pm

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VOTE: S_S
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Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:11 pm

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In post 3601, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 3596, Thestatusquo wrote:I did evaluate them.
ok, then why did you say that i still townleaned you and that "The only thing that changed since then was datisi voted for me and guiltylion said he didnt vibe with some of my stuff" when that is just clearly not true?
because I think you are being disingenuous and I dont agree with your assessment.
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Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:35 pm

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and what supports that conclusion?
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Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:38 pm

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Shea really feels like an example of everyone getting distracted by the bright, shiny, loud townie who isn’t afraid of saying stuff that can very obviously come off as off-putting or offensive or outrageous instead of focusing on the scum sitting on the sidelines

I think it was NSG that once said that the biggest mistake towns mistake is focusing on the townies who do outrageous things rather than focusing on the silently scummy people

Mind you, I don’t really think most of what shea has said is all that outrageous but he’s definitely not out here trying to make friends. And I really think mafia in his position would be trying to make more friends or at least attract a little less attention.

Here is where I’m at

I would have expected S_S to attempt more analysis of some part of the game by now. I don’t have a good record of reading him but he’s good at sound and often useful logical reads but my general vibe of him so far has been a pale imitation of what S_S should sound like. Good wagon.

I don’t know about Marci. I think the fact her wagon didn’t really gain any steam despite the charismatic Datisi pushing it is a little odd but I also don’t really have a reason to scum read her.

I think DV might be town

I think obscure is scum and another good wagon. Something about their reaction to someone insinuating their newbieness could be played up as an act felt really wrong to me. It feels to me like a townie would be more understanding of that suspicion and either laugh it off or at least engage with that suspicion more generously. The highly defensive reaction makes me believe in obscure’s newbieness, but it also makes me think that maybe he is scum who reacted to such suspicion so strongly because it would be catching him “for the wrong reasons”

#2594 is the post I’m thinking of in particular

I have generally liked GL’s read trajectories (not necessarily the reads themselves) but the way he is reevaluating and evolving his reads feels very in line with what I saw from him in our last game. I will not dig up examples because I’m phoneposting add that sound like hell

Gamma no idea but I feel like I should have an idea
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Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:41 pm

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I want to think Frogster is town because he comes to his reads in such odd ways but idk if that’s just personality or not

I could meta him soon or someone more familiar with him could just tell me what he is
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Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:44 pm

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Datisi randomly having the theory that fire and I are buddies is +town

Random connections like that are always easier to make as town than scum, although definitely good scum can fake them

But in this case I feel I know exactly why Datisi had that thought

Datisi can you confirm what lead to that thought
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Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:04 pm

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maybe this game town loud wolves quiet
town bite at each other
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VOTE: s_s

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Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 pm

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Hi I am here again and feel bleh about this game

I think shea is town and don't really think it's SS either for reasons I've tried to explain? But not sure what else to do and where to go

I'll try looking at recent posts more closely later but I have a bit of time now so like, does anyone wanna interact with me or ask me stuff
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Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 pm

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I mean I haven't played with SS for a long time but my impression is that he's just like this?
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Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:06 pm

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At least this feels pretty similar to when I played with him in 2019, he wouldn't do much in the early game and kind of floated around a bit, this is what I'd expect after replacing
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Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:07 pm

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Oh I guess maybe I don’t have to try to sort Datisi but I want to know if I’m right on this anyway
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Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:08 pm

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Thoughts on obscure?
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Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:09 pm

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I remember liking him a bit yesterday but don't really remember any of his posts from today lole

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Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:12 pm

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Ok so obscure why are you scumreading Deas

I don't have anything other than your initial post where you sat you didn't like his entrance, what do you think of your d2 posting?

Also can you elaborate on me and GL because I'm not really sure why you suspect us from the quote that you gave, or the extent to which you do
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Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:12 pm

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In post 3615, Dannflor wrote:Thoughts on obscure?
Null I guess
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Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:19 pm

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It’s possible I’m waxing nostalgic about a town S_S that never existed
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Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:21 pm

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eh idk there were a couple posts that felt a little too much like S_S trying to do a cosplay of himself but I’m not really getting that vibe looking back over
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Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:22 pm

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VOTE: obscure

I think this is the only vote I feel a little bit good about right now
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Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:23 pm

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Part of my SS townlean is that on d1 I felt like the FB wagon was an easy wagon scum were using and it feels like VPB flipping red made that thought correct because part of the reason I was scumreading him is that his FB push felt easy and wrong. Is that confirmation bias? Idk
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Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:27 pm

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I still don’t scum read FB I suppose I should take that into account

GL tried to engage me on a post of FB’s and I just don’t find that analysis engaging or convincing at all. I’ll explain more when I’m at a computer and less lazy but I think it’s an example of trying to guess at what scum seem like they would do rather than looking at what scum tend to actually do and say.
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Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:29 pm

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I think ydrasse might be a wolf :(
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