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Daddy Yankee & Snow - Con Calma

(2019)

Commentary: This super catchy reggaeton song from Daddy Yankee samples the 1994 song "Informer" by Canadian rapper Snow (also featured in Con Calma).

NJAC

(2): Shiidaji, ProfessorDrapion

KittyTacky

(1): NJAC

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

ProfessorDrapion

(1): Salsabil Faria

Wayward Son

(1): Galron

Not Voting

(5): MalcolmTucker, Porkens, Wayward Son, Crescent, KittyTacky

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-19 10:24:00).

[geraintm]

Nightmare scenario would be geraintm/crscent/malcom

This gets a vote
VOTE: galron

I don't particularly like that post either. It feels like it's intending to be solvey by putting a sort of grand, almost conspiratorial idea out there but it's also not saying much at the same time. I feel like I have a tendency to scumread Galron a lot early game though - maybe a style thing, but will keep an eye on their play.

Nah, it was a good post. If scum was me and Crescent and A N Other I think we would walk this game.

But you brown nosing my vote....VOTE: malcolm tucker

Don't understand your vote here, I like

Malcolm

's pov though...

i realise now i am not sure if Malcolm Tucker was saying "I don't like this post" about mine or Galron. when i first posted, i thought they were agreeing with me that Galron's was a poor post. I'm not so sure they meant that now.

so i voted Malcolm because i thought they were apparently joining me in saying Galron's post was poor.

[MalcolmTucker]

Nightmare scenario would be geraintm/crscent/malcom

This gets a vote
VOTE: galron

I don't particularly like that post either. It feels like it's intending to be solvey by putting a sort of grand, almost conspiratorial idea out there but it's also not saying much at the same time. I feel like I have a tendency to scumread Galron a lot early game though - maybe a style thing, but will keep an eye on their play.

Nah, it was a good post. If scum was me and Crescent and A N Other I think we would walk this game.

But you brown nosing my vote....VOTE: malcolm tucker

Don't understand your vote here, I like

Malcolm

's pov though...

i realise now i am not sure if Malcolm Tucker was saying "I don't like this post" about mine or Galron. when i first posted, i thought they were agreeing with me that Galron's was a poor post. I'm not so sure they meant that now.

so i voted Malcolm because i thought they were apparently joining me in saying Galron's post was poor.

I was saying I didn't particularly like Galron's post, you are correct there.

Sure, it'd be a nightmare scenario if the three of us were all scum together, but it seems very unlikely from early posting - certainly I feel like the way you/Crescent have played so far means you are unlikely to be aligned. "We should be careful of this player," without an actual scumread could hint at alignment but I don't think you'd be urging for a proper check if Crescent was a teammate.

I think you're town though. Your vote for me is misguided but it shows you're not just wanting to necessarily get town players onside when they're agreeing with you (or when they think they are at least).

[MalcolmTucker]

Porkens is probably town based on their posting so far. I can see scum occasionally opting for an "I'm clueless" type approach but they'd be overdoing it if scum here.

[Salsabil Faria]

How so?

LOL, okay, so what's your plan to solve this game?

I REALLY don’t like this.

VOTE: NJAC

I also don’t like

Prokens

's posts. For a player who joined 2008, they're asking some obvious type of questions. I see it as

playing dumb card as scum

.

Recently

NJAC

,

Kitty

and I completed a newbie game (Newbie-2100) where scum!

Kitty

was playing dumb townie and

NJAC

caught him for that.

VOTE: Prokens

i dont follow what the quoted post has to do with the rest of it?

Not in a direct manner... While I was reading, I was having this thought process towards

Professor

's stance on

NJAC

and wrote under this post.

[MalcolmTucker]

I don’t know if it’s all that great. What if you are town reading scum, don’t you risk spreading that misconception to others? What if scum uses it as a way to plant town seeds on their members?

You are not a newbie, as far as I can tell, why do you keep asking questions about typical mechanics of the game?

You choose to enter the thread saying this?
Have anything else to add?
Rather then trying to pick on Porkens like that and not even in a good way.

Slight scumlean on Drapion for this and the posts which followed afterwards. This is a bit of a reach. I think it's perfectly valid when trying to suss out other players to ask/question why someone who's been on the site for a long time didn't appear to be clear about game mechanics as such. Porkens' reply was fine but it's useful info for us to have.

[Salsabil Faria]

Porkens is probably town based on their posting so far. I can see scum occasionally opting for an "I'm clueless" type approach but they'd be overdoing it if scum here.

If

Professor

flips scum then it'll clear

Porkens

imo, but if

Professor

is town and

Porkens

will continue to play like this then I think it’s not impossible to play dumb townie as scum for them.

[MalcolmTucker]

Porkens is probably town based on their posting so far. I can see scum occasionally opting for an "I'm clueless" type approach but they'd be overdoing it if scum here.

If

Professor

flips scum then it'll clear

Porkens

imo, but if

Professor

is town and

Porkens

will continue to play like this then I think it’s not impossible to play dumb townie as scum for them.

Agreed it's possible but very much feel like they would be overdoing it. I've seen slots like that eliminated early on as a compromise when the town has been struggling to agree on a defined target. But still unlikely for me.

The one bit I do worry about is the "I'm just going to try and not get miseliminated", I'll expect scum hunting at some point from Porkens once we have more info otherwise that could be construed as coasting.

[geraintm]

Nightmare scenario would be geraintm/crscent/malcom

This gets a vote
VOTE: galron

I don't particularly like that post either. It feels like it's intending to be solvey by putting a sort of grand, almost conspiratorial idea out there but it's also not saying much at the same time. I feel like I have a tendency to scumread Galron a lot early game though - maybe a style thing, but will keep an eye on their play.

Nah, it was a good post. If scum was me and Crescent and A N Other I think we would walk this game.

But you brown nosing my vote....VOTE: malcolm tucker

Don't understand your vote here, I like

Malcolm

's pov though...

i realise now i am not sure if Malcolm Tucker was saying "I don't like this post" about mine or Galron. when i first posted, i thought they were agreeing with me that Galron's was a poor post. I'm not so sure they meant that now.

so i voted Malcolm because i thought they were apparently joining me in saying Galron's post was poor.

I was saying I didn't particularly like Galron's post, you are correct there.

Sure, it'd be a nightmare scenario if the three of us were all scum together, but it seems very unlikely from early posting - certainly I feel like the way you/Crescent have played so far means you are unlikely to be aligned. "We should be careful of this player," without an actual scumread could hint at alignment but I don't think you'd be urging for a proper check if Crescent was a teammate.

I think you're town though. Your vote for me is misguided but it shows you're not just wanting to necessarily get town players onside when they're agreeing with you (or when they think they are at least).

then i am happy with my vote on you.

me and crescent can certainly be the same alignment - we can both be town. i know we are not both scum, and there is the chance that they could be scum - hence me wanting someone to check them over.

whilst i am thinking about it, i wouldnt mind being checked out too. no one ever does and so i always get to the end game with question marks over me.

[Shiidaji]

I don’t really have one. I’m going to try and not get miseliminated. That’s really my only goal. Although I know that can’t win the game by itself, it’s my goal for the first couple days, at which point I hope to have gotten some idea who is scum er not.

The forthrightness is part of what made me trust you. It would help us all if you transition into taking stances on the current game.

NJAC's snippy, reactive posting style is one I tend to scumread early. I had a bad vibe from his post 7, where, in my gentle mind, he could have just voted Crescent for his rvs vote instead of double-posting a jab at Cres without follow-up. So I wanted to wait and see if he always posts in curt, questioning jabs. He does!! While it's easier to fake quick conversations where the posts are a minute apart (posts 86-90 with Pork) when it's about non-game-related topics, I like NJAC's tone towards Pork. It's non-accusatory and doesn't resemble him angling for a vote switch onto Pork.

[NJAC]

It matters. I'm waiting for Kitty to show up.

I'm here.

Yes, I can see that. In the last game we played you said you use to do better when players are active and there's enough content. Do you think this is the case? Is there enough content and people are being active enough in this game for you to try to solve the game?

[Shiidaji]

don't understand their Crescent townread (74 ➤ where they mentioned 8 is a town response from Crescent but to me it’s a NAI stuff).

Salsa if you mean that and don't understand ask away I am making my morning coffee let us join hands.
I'll look at Drapion again because I didn't have have it in me to decipher whether he made a booboo or a calculated play when he backed off NJAC.
Can you give context for your Wayward meta townread? I don't like his recent posts.

[NJAC]

VOTE: Kitty

How

is

a vote in 6 a relevant vote? I'll wait for Kitty's response to ask my next question.

I want him to feel some pressure. It's like an implicit message to him that I'm going to watch his play closely.

What's your next question?

[NJAC]

Read-list : 01

Slight Townleans⇨

Wayward

: meta + vibe

NJAC

: meta + I can understand what they're coming from about

Porkens

.

Malcolm

: Get town vibes from 41 & 78.

Slight Scumleans⇨

Porkens

: Reason stated in 140.

Professor

: Their aggressive approach towards

NJAC

for going after

Porkens

doesn’t sit well with me. It almost seems like (to me) they

know

Porkens

is town

somehow. Also they kept trying to dismiss

NJAC

's approach towards

Porkens

by saying it’s completely NAI stuff (which isn’t, stated in 140 & 143) +

buddying attempt

with

Crescent

(142).
While writing this, I find

Professor

is more scummier than

Porkens

.

VOTE: Professor

Shiidaji

: (mostly based on vibe) got ping from 11 & 30 + don't understand their

Crescent

townread (74 ➤ where they mentioned 8 is a town response from

Crescent

but to me it’s a NAI stuff).

Rests are null for now.

I don't necessarily agree with your read on Porkens, but I think I agree with your read on Professor, I felt the same, like he knows Porkens is town and saw an opportunity to make a fake case on me. His posts were not intended to try to determine my alignment but to throw a lot of shade on me and discredit me.

[Salsabil Faria]

don't understand their Crescent townread (74 ➤ where they mentioned 8 is a town response from Crescent but to me it’s a NAI stuff).

Salsa if you mean that and don't understand ask away I am making my morning coffee let us join hands.
I'll look at Drapion again because I didn't have have it in me to decipher whether he made a booboo or a calculated play when he backed off NJAC.
Can you give context for your Wayward meta townread? I don't like his recent posts.

What do you mean by "

Salsa if you mean that

"??

I played with

Wayward

in this game:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=89804

[Shiidaji]

Whether or not you read through my post with the actual intent to read me and solidify your gut feeling you mentioned on your lovely color-coded list.

That's great, so what about Wayward in that game makes you feel he's town here besides gut? Save me some reading.

[MalcolmTucker]

I don’t really have one. I’m going to try and not get miseliminated. That’s really my only goal. Although I know that can’t win the game by itself, it’s my goal for the first couple days, at which point I hope to have gotten some idea who is scum er not.

The forthrightness is part of what made me trust you. It would help us all if you transition into taking stances on the current game.

NJAC's snippy, reactive posting style is one I tend to scumread early. I had a bad vibe from his post 7, where, in my gentle mind, he could have just voted Crescent for his rvs vote instead of double-posting a jab at Cres without follow-up. So I wanted to wait and see if he always posts in curt, questioning jabs. He does!! While it's easier to fake quick conversations where the posts are a minute apart (posts 86-90 with Pork) when it's about non-game-related topics, I like NJAC's tone towards Pork.

It's non-accusatory and doesn't resemble him angling for a vote switch onto Pork.

Agreed, and as I've pointed out the info gained was actually helpful and useful too.

[MalcolmTucker]

Early TR on Shiidaji too. Liking their approach.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Read-list : 01

Slight Townleans⇨

Wayward

: meta + vibe

NJAC

: meta + I can understand what they're coming from about

Porkens

.

Malcolm

: Get town vibes from 41 & 78.

Slight Scumleans⇨

Porkens

: Reason stated in 140.

Professor

: Their aggressive approach towards

NJAC

for going after

Porkens

doesn’t sit well with me. It almost seems like (to me) they

know

Porkens

is town

somehow. Also they kept trying to dismiss

NJAC

's approach towards

Porkens

by saying it’s completely NAI stuff (which isn’t, stated in 140 & 143) +

buddying attempt

with

Crescent

(142).
While writing this, I find

Professor

is more scummier than

Porkens

.

VOTE: Professor

Shiidaji

: (mostly based on vibe) got ping from 11 & 30 + don't understand their

Crescent

townread (74 ➤ where they mentioned 8 is a town response from

Crescent

but to me it’s a NAI stuff).

Rests are null for now.

You realize the dudes discussion is going nowhere right?
There was better things they could have said/asked Porkens.

I think your just jealous I used your color in that one post

[Shiidaji]

Vote: Drapion

[ProfessorDrapion]

Porkens is probably town based on their posting so far. I can see scum occasionally opting for an "I'm clueless" type approach but they'd be overdoing it if scum here.

If

Professor

flips scum then it'll clear

Porkens

imo, but if

Professor

is town and

Porkens

will continue to play like this then I think it’s not impossible to play dumb townie as scum for them.

Sounds like someone’s setting up back to back Ml’s.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Nightmare scenario would be geraintm/crscent/malcom

This gets a vote
VOTE: galron

I don't particularly like that post either. It feels like it's intending to be solvey by putting a sort of grand, almost conspiratorial idea out there but it's also not saying much at the same time. I feel like I have a tendency to scumread Galron a lot early game though - maybe a style thing, but will keep an eye on their play.

Nah, it was a good post. If scum was me and Crescent and A N Other I think we would walk this game.

But you brown nosing my vote....VOTE: malcolm tucker

Don't understand your vote here, I like

Malcolm

's pov though...

i realise now i am not sure if Malcolm Tucker was saying "I don't like this post" about mine or Galron. when i first posted, i thought they were agreeing with me that Galron's was a poor post. I'm not so sure they meant that now.

so i voted Malcolm because i thought they were apparently joining me in saying Galron's post was poor.

I was saying I didn't particularly like Galron's post, you are correct there.

Sure, it'd be a nightmare scenario if the three of us were all scum together, but it seems very unlikely from early posting - certainly I feel like the way you/Crescent have played so far means you are unlikely to be aligned. "We should be careful of this player," without an actual scumread could hint at alignment but I don't think you'd be urging for a proper check if Crescent was a teammate.

I think you're town though. Your vote for me is misguided but it shows you're not just wanting to necessarily get town players onside when they're agreeing with you (or when they think they are at least).

then i am happy with my vote on you.

me and crescent can certainly be the same alignment - we can both be town. i know we are not both scum, and there is the chance that they could be scum - hence me wanting someone to check them over.

whilst i am thinking about it, i wouldnt mind being checked out too. no one ever does and so i always get to the end game with question marks over me.

Malcolm could be a wolf I suppose here.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Kitty

How

is

a vote in 6 a relevant vote? I'll wait for Kitty's response to ask my next question.

I want him to feel some pressure. It's like an implicit message to him that I'm going to watch his play closely.

What's your next question?

From their current posts what is your thoughts?

[Salsabil Faria]

What?? I read your reasoning in 74 which I don’t understand because I still count 8 as a NAI post.

Crescent

could be scum and still make 8 like town!them could. What makes you think that post comes from town!them is beyond my understanding.
Then without clearing it, you're trying to portrait something negative about me ( ) which I'm counting a bad faith.

In my "

lovely color-coded list

" I stated my

Wayward

slight townlean

based on

meta + vibe[/b] for which you asked context so I shared the meta I've on them & I can't explain vibe/gut read. If there was anything beside that, I would mentioned in my read-list.... for now this is all I have.

[Salsabil Faria]

^ this if for 165