Senel (2) <-~ mcskullchick, Telic
Razage (1) <-~ ZazieR
Not Voting (5) <-~ Razage, Senel, raider8169, Kmd4390, Jayne
Well my list is a bit more comprehensive then yours in that it allows for partial suspicion without going to vote and FOS.ZazieR wrote: Raz: My vote should be obvious enough what I think of him. I'm also having some problems with the fact that he names 4 players as Somewhat Suspicious, but he has only mentioned one of them directly. The other three were mentioned in his list, in which all three of them are Somewhat Suspicious as they haven't posted much content. I can agree with Skullchick, but the other two have almost as much content as you.
As said above, mine allows for more depth because this is a game of gray areas and it's not as simple as black and white until the lynch reveal. That's about the only way I can explain it.raider8169 wrote: @ZazieR, is your last post your only reasons for voting Raz? In a game this size I find it odd to have 4 suspects because that is everyone but 2 people. I dont think it is vote worthy but I am not here to tell you how to vote.
This is interesting. Look at the bolded part. At this point, your vote on MCS is random. You haven't said anything about her actually being scummy at the time you make this post. Did you have suspicions on MCS that you hadn't mentioned? Again, I feel like you were more suspicious of Senel than MCS, but never changed your vote. Are you afraid of looking wishy washy if you change votes?Jayne wrote:I didn't say you were or weren't inexperienced. We're all inexperienced (discluding the ICs) I'm just finding you really suspicious at the moment,but if I let off on Skulls, she might get away.
It's helpful to try to get things going instead of waiting for someone else to do it. Posts like these are often seen as scummy because laying back and letting everyone else do things is a good way for scum to avoid suspicion. What exactly did you mean by voting responsibly?Razage wrote:Well it's good things have got started.
I'm not going to cast any votes until some more discussion has taken place. Voting responsibly is crucial.
I'm waiting for more information from her. When she answers our questions, it may affect my decision if she is scum or not.ZazieR wrote:Senel, if it's for the best interest for town to lynch one of the two, then why aren't you voting Skullchick?Senel wrote:Now, we probably aren't both scum, because we have been voting for eachother at every turn, no scumly relationship there. I think in the town's best interest is to lynch one of us to find out who the other is.FoS Senel
No, it's scummy to answer other players questions with more questions. I'm not asking for your opinions, I'm just asking you to talk to us a bit.ZazieR wrote:So it's scummy to wait for the answers before giving your opinion?Senel wrote:Zaz came into the game questioning everybody, but didn't reveal much aboutHerself.
Again, see above.ZazieR wrote:Again, why not a vote?Senel wrote:I believed she was scum.
Well, let me think about it...ok, I guess anyone on that bandwagon would be suspicious, which would be useless in the longrun of the game. You got me there, I really should think before I type.Senel wrote:If I went on the bandwagon, and Chick isn't scum, it would be the town's best interest to vote me off.
My main reason for voting him is the quote of Raz at the top of my previous post.Raider wrote:@ZazieR, is your last post your only reasons for voting Raz? In a game this size I find it odd to have 4 suspects because that is everyone but 2 people. I dont think it is vote worthy but I am not here to tell you how to vote.
The only ones where I said something about the not voting were Jayne and Senel. May I not wonder why they aren't voting when they have said this:Raz wrote:I also don't like that some of your reasons for suspicion simply boil down to "Didn't vote." Are you in a hurry for the day to end? If so, why? If not, then why is refraining from a vote automatically suspicious?
Jayne wrote:And I only press on about you because you're really my only valid suspect.
I'm not in a hurry. That's just blatant misrep. I want to know why they don't vote, while they said those things from the quotes. Besides, I also gave other reasons than that. And there's a reason why I find not voting scummy in this game, namely (this is an example quote):Senel wrote:Chick: You guys all know I think she's scum.
Everyone who puts someone at L-2 is apparently going to be questioned by KMD. Which means you'll put attention towards you. However, if you truely believe someone is scummy as town, this shouldn't matter to you.KMD wrote:Raz, do you know that MCS is at L-2 after your vote?
This is quite interesting.KMD wrote:The list includes both ICs, ZazieR, and VP who seems to have some experience from the way he posts. Remember that the more experienced a player is, the better they will play and the better they play, the harder they are to catch when they are scum.
Thanks .KMD wrote:You did a good job of replacing in and giving your opinions.
I have no idea what you're saying hereSenel wrote:No, it's scummy to answer other players questions with more questions.
Hi, how are you doing?Senel wrote:I'm not asking for your opinions, I'm just asking you to talk to us a bit.
Is this vote tally right above my vote incorrect?Kmd4390 wrote:Raz, do you know that MCS is at L-2 after your vote?
Says MC has 1 vote, which would make it L-3. If I voted Senel then he would be at L-2.Incognito wrote: Vote Count #4 of Day 1
mcskullchick (1) <-~ VP Baltar
Senel (2) <-~ mcskullchick, Telic
Razage (1) <-~ ZazieR
Not Voting (5) <-~ Razage, Senel, raider8169, Kmd4390, Jayne
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch!
It was after my response to your question. Apparently you see something in that response. No explanation was given in that line. Further down the post you said mentioned the same thing that others have expressed concern over, which is that by listing four people as "Somewhat suspicious." I've set myself up to bandwagon on one of them at the earliest opportunity. I don't see it that way and I can change the way I present the list if that'll make everyone feel more comfortable. I'm sure everyone else is ranking people the same way. You yourself had 3 people listed rather then the preferred two and in what could be a higher suspicion then the title of mine.ZazieR wrote: Raz, do you even know why I'm voting you? You don't talk about it at all.
Noted, it is possible I'm falling for a clever ruse in that regard. Although keep in mind on my ranked list, uncertain and somewhat suspicious are pretty close together and all the names are right up there. I've got my vote on the person I need to see more info from. There's just not too much to go on right now.Kmd4390 wrote: Tip: Make sure you aren't simply thinking experienced players are town and newer players are scum. You don't really have anyone as town, but your least suspicious are under "uncertain". The list includes both ICs, ZazieR, and VP who seems to have some experience from the way he posts. Remember that the more experienced a player is, the better they will play and the better they play, the harder they are to catch when they are scum.
This early I completely agree with this. At this point of the game I like to get a feel for everyone. I do not look deep into posts and just talk. After I get a scum sign I think look at the person in isolation to and start looking more in depth.Razage wrote:There's just not too much to go on right now.
While Telic had not postedKmd4390 wrote:I have to ask this. Your vote on Telic seemed like you were trying to get a lurker to post more. You ask lurkers to post, and then in the same post, you unvote Telic. Why?
Two things about this. Zazie, what exactly is interesting about this to you?ZazieR wrote:This is quite interesting.Kmd4390 wrote:The list includes both ICs, ZazieR, and VP who seems to have some experience from the way he posts. Remember that the more experienced a player is, the better they will play and the better they play, the harder they are to catch when they are scum.
You're right. My bad.Razage wrote: Says MC has 1 vote, which would make it L-3. If I voted Senel then he would be at L-2.
After the word quote put ="Person's Name" and put it all in brackets.Meji Fan wrote:EBWOP How do I put the name of the person Im quoting above the quote in black?
So you want to sit back and let everyone else scumhunt?raider8169 wrote: This early I completely agree with this. At this point of the game I like to get a feel for everyone. I do not look deep into posts and just talk. After I get a scum sign I think look at the person in isolation to and start looking more in depth.
You came off as knowing what you are doing. I guess you can take that as a compliment then . Oh, and off topic a little, but I'll be a Sports Journalist some day.VP Baltar wrote:
Kmd, I wouldn't necessarily call myself experienced at the game of mafia. In fact, this is the first game I've ever played online or in real life. I've read a few games on the forums here to get a feel,however, so that probably accounts for me being a bit more aware of the posting customs and such. Also, my job in the meatworld is being a journalist.....so I have sort of trained my eye to pick up bullshit and ask lots of questions (work with enough politicians and you'd get where I'm coming from ).
That's why I made that post. I didn't really have much of a read on anyone, so I reread everyone individually.VP Baltar wrote: Other than Kmd's last comprehensive list post, haven't seen too intensive of scumhunting from either.
Really?mcskullchick wrote:I jump on Sene, and you people start fishing me. I would think before you act. You might be making a big mistake. Your voting for the wrong people.