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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:56 am

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In post 616, jjh927 wrote:Scum:
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Klick wrote:We should either hammer Ircher or move on imo
I'm interested in pursuing an RCEnigma vote but I don't want to dampen the Ircher wagon for something that might not happen
i just want to hear from bbt (and andres, if he's still playing this game) again otherwise i'm good to go
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:57 am

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i think jjh thought furtive meant in that furtive also thought jjh was copying nero's reads while scumreading nero

however i think furtive was saying "you too?" as in he thought that jjh was copying furtive's reads while also scumreading furtive
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 651, fireisredsir wrote:i think jjh thought furtive meant in that furtive also thought jjh was copying nero's reads while scumreading nero

however i think furtive was saying "you too?" as in he thought that jjh was copying furtive's reads while also scumreading furtive
Yes. I only noticed Nero's thing when he said it, I saw my name at the bottom with Ircher and also found it weird.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:59 am

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jjh isn't even scumreading me
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:01 am

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If I was literally just misinterpreting you this whole time why didn't you correct this misinterpretation until someone gave you an out

I think I've been pretty explicit about how I have been interpreting it
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:03 am

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i mean so was he, you were both just talking past each other

look again, he's talking about your read on him
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:03 am

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like my comment and the ensuing conversation were prob useless. I just thought it was maybe a little weird that I'm a step above null when he's agreeing with most of my scum reads.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:05 am

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It's gut

I'll get to logic over the weekend, Nero
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:06 am

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In post 655, fireisredsir wrote:i mean so was he, you were both just talking past each other

look again, he's talking about your read on him
Think you're right here actually
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:07 am

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In post 654, jjh927 wrote:If I was literally just misinterpreting you this whole time why didn't you correct this misinterpretation until someone gave you an out

I think I've been pretty explicit about how I have been interpreting it
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:07 am

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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:10 am

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y?
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:11 am

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I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:12 am

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In post 646, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 643, Klick wrote:We should either hammer Ircher or move on imo
no?
yes?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:13 am

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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:14 am

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In post 663, Klick wrote:
In post 646, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 643, Klick wrote:We should either hammer Ircher or move on imo
no?
yes?
Is there an issue with having him continue to dangle close to being elimed while we look at other shit?
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:15 am

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i don't really get the mindset behind "hammer or move on" followed by "i want to vote RCE but don't want to dampen ircher wagon"

can you explain that more

specifically about the "or move on"
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:16 am

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like if "or move on" is an option youre ok with then why not explore that option

if you would rather just flip ircher then why propose moving on as an option
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:17 am

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In post 662, jjh927 wrote:I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
I was asking how your reads made sense, not defending myself. I still don't know what line you're pushing with this post. You can just call me scum no matter what I say if you want, and never explain your reads, I'm sure it'll go down well.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:18 am

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In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 662, jjh927 wrote:I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
I was asking how your reads made sense, not defending myself. I still don't know what line you're pushing with this post. You can just call me scum no matter what I say if you want, and never explain your reads, I'm sure it'll go down well.
What do you think the gamestate is? Is Ircher being miseliminated or bussed? You're trying to have it both ways.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:19 am

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In post 669, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 662, jjh927 wrote:I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
I was asking how your reads made sense, not defending myself. I still don't know what line you're pushing with this post. You can just call me scum no matter what I say if you want, and never explain your reads, I'm sure it'll go down well.
What do you think the gamestate is? Is Ircher being miseliminated or bussed? You're trying to have it both ways.
And if you just scumread me regardless of Ircher or anyone else, I deserve to know why.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:21 am

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In post 669, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 662, jjh927 wrote:I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
I was asking how your reads made sense, not defending myself. I still don't know what line you're pushing with this post. You can just call me scum no matter what I say if you want, and never explain your reads, I'm sure it'll go down well.
What do you think the gamestate is? Is Ircher being miseliminated or bussed? You're trying to have it both ways.
I don't think you're getting that the answer is "I don't know yet"
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:42 am

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In post 671, jjh927 wrote:
In post 669, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 662, jjh927 wrote:I mean, this aside, it's still pretty scummy that you would immediately jump in and try to defend yourself with "But I can't be scum because I scumread Ircher" who might not even actually be scum
I was asking how your reads made sense, not defending myself. I still don't know what line you're pushing with this post. You can just call me scum no matter what I say if you want, and never explain your reads, I'm sure it'll go down well.
What do you think the gamestate is? Is Ircher being miseliminated or bussed? You're trying to have it both ways.
I don't think you're getting that the answer is "I don't know yet"
And do you know why you scumread me? I'm 2nd last, out of 21.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:50 am

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My gut reaction is that you have placed much higher value on broadcasting the fact that you have reads and making sure everyone else knows you have reads than I would expect of town
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:56 am

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You hope others will townread you because of your reads, draw attention to them as a defence, and generally seem more preoccupied with ticking that "thing that town players do" box rather than using it as a tool to spur conversation and more accurately place people
At the base level, you appear to prioritise being townread over gaining information with which to eliminate scum.
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