Datisi's Café [game over!]

[Lukewarm]

no one gave an explanation that made any sense to me.

Yeah, but how was anyone supposed to say "we want you to tell us all the details on your productivity costs, because we want to know if you have the growing cost consistent with all flipped roles so far?" Without telling potential scum!you exactly what to say?

[Lukewarm]

hi uh I would like to as a PSA reminder that using full productivity is an useful night action and something every PR should consider especially if they kinda suck thanks

Mailman does seem insanely useless.....Roden, why bother?

It's tiered, if I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%. That's the version I went with since I didn't find the modifier useful last night.

Why does this post exist, if it costs you nothing to use the modifier?

[Roden]

no one gave an explanation that made any sense to me.

Yeah, but how was anyone supposed to say "we want you to tell us all the details on your productivity costs, because we want to know if you have the growing cost consistent with all flipped roles so far?" Without telling potential scum!you exactly what to say?

Luke

Do you seriously think scum!me sits in the scum PT with my scum buddies and none of can manage to rub to scum brain cells together enough to remember to check flipped roles for consistency

[Roden]

I also said you had no reason to believe me, which...is exactly what happened.

Because you said something different than you did initially?

Maybe clear that up?

hi uh I would like to as a PSA reminder that using full productivity is an useful night action and something every PR should consider especially if they kinda suck thanks

Mailman does seem insanely useless.....Roden, why bother?

It's tiered, if I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%. That's the version I went with since I didn't find the modifier useful last night.

Why does this post exist, if it costs you nothing to use the modifier?

Idk, I didn't design my role.

[PenguinPower]

Right - but why did you say "if I don't use?"

That implies your modifier has a cost.

[PenguinPower]

Like - if the modifier has 0 cost why would you not use it despite your assessed usefulness?

[Roden]

Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me

[Lukewarm]

That does not answer the question.

"If I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%" implies conversely that if you do use your modifier, it costs some value more then 5%.

You are now claiming that that is not the case.

Why did you sit down and type "If I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%"

[Roden]

Look above your post

[Lukewarm]

Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me

Okay. sure. You lie about the cost in order to keep it vague.

Why would you not use the modifier if it did not cost more?

[Roden]

I'm never gonna understand why I'm always like this as town or what I'm doing wrong

The modifier makes the person that I message able message me back the next night for free. That's it, there's nothing else to claim.

[Lukewarm]

Why don't you just give straight answers....

Are you saying that your role is always send a message, get a response, and you don't get the response simply because Peta died?

And the whole modifier bit was made up as part of this obfuscation play you were doing?

If yes, why make me guess... its frustrating.
If no, realize that your engagement is leaving me having to guess at what you mean, which is still frustrating.

[Something_Smart]

Is Roden known for being uncooperative/obstinate as town?

[PenguinPower]

Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me

You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.

[Roden]

I didn't make you guess anything, you're just not listening to me. I full claimed and that wasn't enough for some reason, people wanted more info than I had to give.

[PenguinPower]

Is Roden known for being uncooperative/obstinate as town?

i don't really see the stubbornness as especially scummy bc ive seen roden do the "well now i am not doing it" penguin meme as town before

I am a meme?!?!

yay

[Lukewarm]

Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me

You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.

If he is town, then that was the idea when he did it at the very start of the day before all of the suspicions fell on him.

And then he is being this way because we shot down his ingenious plan by questioning him.

[Something_Smart]

Is Roden known for being uncooperative/obstinate as town?

i don't really see the stubbornness as especially scummy bc ive seen roden do the "well now i am not doing it" penguin meme as town before

I am a meme?!?!

yay

Hmm. Fire, can you link that?

[Roden]

Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me

You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.

If he is town, then that was the idea when he did it at the very start of the day before all of the suspicions fell on him.

And then he is being this way because we shot down his ingenious plan by questioning him.

That's not what happened at all, but ok

I was asked to do play more, so I did. I then got run up because people wanted a claim, which I gave, and then I lost investment in the game. Me getting annoyed at people nitpicking me and openly trying to manipulate me into doing what they want when I know I'm dying anyway within the last 24 hours is not a particularly fun or enjoyable experience. Sorry I didn't fake a happy mood for your own comfort.

[PenguinPower]

We have like 12 days left so i'm not sure why that's your conclusion at this point, but you shutting down certainly doesn't help.

[Vivax]

UNVOTE:

Luke, mastina, (???)

I don‘t know, maybe Ydrasse for third
But I‘m never limming Roden today I think after re-ISOing.
This extremely obstinate defense almost always comes from town in my experience. Especially when it‘s so genuinely egocentrist at times (not negatively connotated as it‘s a townie process)

[Roden]

Interestingly enough, I'm an imperfect human susceptible to my own emotions

[Vivax]

If you think a scum puts up that type of defense I don‘t know what to tell you.

[Andresvmb]

UNVOTE:

Luke, mastina, (???)

I don‘t know, maybe Ydrasse for third
But I‘m never limming Roden today I think after re-ISOing.
This extremely obstinate defense almost always comes from town in my experience. Especially when it‘s so genuinely egocentrist at times (not negatively connotated as it‘s a townie process)

I have been thinking about this, and I think it’s silly to doubt mastina as Town at this point.

[PenguinPower]

If you think a scum puts up that type of defense I don‘t know what to tell you.

um.....