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[Something_Smart]

I guess you correctly had me as scum in 2126 for most of the game, though that one was really mechanically weird.

Idk, it seems like you're projecting extreme confidence with no good reason to be doing so. Why are you so deadset on killing me today?

[Nero Cain]

I think you are scummy. You are in the poe, day is likely between you and mena anyways so. Why should I want mena dead and not you?

[Thestatusquo]

The day doesn't have to be between mena and ss. I hate false dichotomy. We could actually scum hunt instead of...whatever it is we're doing here?

[Nero Cain]

I'm reading the room. Mena got to l1 and there are 5 votes on SS so like I think my statement is a pretty accurate picture of the game state rn

[Thestatusquo]

We pushed multiple people to a claim yesterday and eliminated none of them.

[Nero Cain]

Also fire kinda does stuff and uses words while SS and mena don't.

[Thestatusquo]

Thats lazy.

[Nero Cain]

SS and mena are both already claimed so at the least we flip a scummy vt

[Frogsterking]

The day doesn't have to be between mena and ss. I hate false dichotomy. We could actually scum hunt instead of...whatever it is we're doing here?

Shea do you TR Mena and S_S?

[Thestatusquo]

My thought is that there's not really anyone interesting in disrupting this game state right now besides me and to a lesser extent ausuka so it feels to me like the scum are probably ok with where the day is at or we'd be seeing at least some sort of countering happening in other places and we don't really at all. It's another reason I'm not to stoked on the default pressure from the start of the day on these two slots just going through.

[Thestatusquo]

The day doesn't have to be between mena and ss. I hate false dichotomy. We could actually scum hunt instead of...whatever it is we're doing here?

Shea do you TR Mena and S_S?

I have been very clear on how I feel about Mena and S_S. I suggest you read my posts.

[Nero Cain]

I am lazy but I'm not sure why you think it's ok to let mostly content less slots go so you can hero lim

[Thestatusquo]

for one thing I don't think its remotely true to say something_smart is contentless, but for another thing I'd rather eliminate scum than just vote out people who don't talk as much.

[Thestatusquo]

Seems like you'll have no problem getting a lim on one of them anyway so if they flip green tomorrow you can say I was white knighting and if they flip red you can say I was refusing to lim my buddy so its a win win for you regardless here.

[Nero Cain]

I think you could maybe argue that mena is a counter to SS and there's only 2 or 3 scum left and it's possible that they have little or no influence

[Frogsterking]

The day doesn't have to be between mena and ss. I hate false dichotomy. We could actually scum hunt instead of...whatever it is we're doing here?

Shea do you TR Mena and S_S?

I have been very clear on how I feel about Mena and S_S. I suggest you read my posts.

Based on your behavior I'm deducing that you TR both of them and if that's true then that take is approaching BoP range FMPOV.

[Nero Cain]

Not everything revolves around you Shea. I think you might be down my totem pole a bit

[Thestatusquo]

I think that's probably fair. It still bothers me though.

If I had to make a solvey team guess it would probably be like {deas, fireisred} and if there's a third someone like {GL, Dann or ydrasse}

I can't get over the fact that I just dont think either of these slots are scum deep down.

[Ydrasse]

Me can g sleep

think woofs can’t do anything with strong town o n it all so struggl e and cannot defend self

[Thestatusquo]

The day doesn't have to be between mena and ss. I hate false dichotomy. We could actually scum hunt instead of...whatever it is we're doing here?

Shea do you TR Mena and S_S?

I have been very clear on how I feel about Mena and S_S. I suggest you read my posts.

Based on your behavior I'm deducing that you TR both of them and if that's true then that take is approaching BoP range FMPOV.

Luckily you don't have to base it on my behavior, you can base it directly on the words I said about it when I had a back on forth on this exact subject with nero like a page and a half ago.

Like I said, maybe try reading the damn posts.

[Nero Cain]

Shea does not town read them, he just wants red fire

[Nero Cain]

But even if redfire we're scum there's still 1/2 more

[Thestatusquo]

I mean by the strictest definition of the term "town read" I guess I do.

I think S_S is probably more likely to be town than not.

I'm less sure on Mena and probably would move over there towards the end of the day if my vote was needed but I see no reason why that would have to happen immediately when theres plenty of time for more people to realize fire is scum.

What's the rush, exactly?

[Thestatusquo]

But even if redfire we're scum there's still 1/2 more

Literally just suggested a team solve my guy.

[Dannflor]

I understand where you are coming from Shea

but the problem is, if we say someone like Menalque is scum

there is what, one other scum in the game? maybe a traitor too? how much is scum actually going to want to jostle the status quo (heh) and how much are they going to be able to without it making it obvious what they are doing

I also think, if one of Mena or SS is scum. Their partner is probably bussing them right now. Even if there are only 2 scum left, like I feel the vibe is that Mena and SS will both flip sooner rather than later, so the last scum (I'm just assuming 4 scum maybe that's wrong) is going to want to be positioning well for that. and in that case, I would think they'd be bussing right now assuming their buddy is going to flip soon.

so I don't really agree that no one wanting to change the game state is indicative of these wagons being wrong

however it's also not an indication these are right, of course. it just feels bad to wagon someone like fire or deasvail based off something like bad vibes. I don't really expect a full on case but like I don't really know what we accomplish if we flip one of those two and it flips town. At the very least if we flip one of Mena or SS we flip someone who is in A LOT of people's POEs and then we either force people to develop some more scum reads or do something else

idk maybe we can talk through more about what you see in fire? or maybe ydrasse? because I really think that slot is town and I think the more we can collectively narrow down our PoEs the better shape we'll be here regardless of our lim today