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Post Post #6800 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:13 am

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In post 6795, Thestatusquo wrote:Since you're not in the PT datisi and SS can you tell me who we should shoot tonight? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
In case you're wondering, Frogster, this is an example of me being performative as town because I know I'd say something like this as scum.

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Post Post #6801 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:15 am

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oh no but now I know that you know that I would say it as town because I would say it as scum and therefore I might be scum trying to make it look like I'm town trying to do what I would do as scum.

Lots of levels here.
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Post Post #6802 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:16 am

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It would be funny is scum were dann, gamma and tsq and the majority of the scum team self voted and ated
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Post Post #6803 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:16 am

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Taunting you about being unable to get me limmed is also something I did here as town because I've done it before as scum ;)
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Post Post #6804 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 6798, Datisi wrote:
In post 6794, Frogsterking wrote:It's more so based on the fact that Shea is really persistent about voting fire and it reminded me of my scum play from that large normal where I kept pushing Yeet and VP nonsensically to rile up the Town.
i mean, shea can theoretically be scum independently

i just don't get any ~vibe feelsies~ about him/s_s having a mental connection or whatever the fuck it is

i think his play here makes sense as scum most if mena and s_s are both town

but i don't wanna think about that scenario right now
Looking forward to the world where S_S or someone flips town and I get attacked for being right two phases in a row.
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Post Post #6805 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:18 am

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I assume if we flipped fire and they were red I would be double bussing.
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Post Post #6806 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:24 am

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Post Post #6807 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:26 am

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I love that scene in warrior cats before fallen leaves goes into the tunnels to pass his sharpclaw evaluation only to be caught up in the flooding that kills him, leaving him eternally wandering the tunnel systems in an effort to escape and being in agony over his family abandoning him down there forever (Because the main protagonist cat went back in time to possess a cat that had a similar name to make his family follow their fate to live in the mountains)
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Post Post #6808 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:26 am

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Wait hold up.

fireisredsir

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Fire is red.

Has anyone thought of this before?
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Post Post #6809 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:28 am

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I made that joke last time I was scum
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Post Post #6810 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:47 am

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In post 6795, Thestatusquo wrote:Since you're not in the PT datisi and SS can you tell me who we should shoot tonight? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
In post 6796, Something_Smart wrote:Not a good joke to be making.
In post 6797, Thestatusquo wrote:Depends on perspective I think.
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Post Post #6811 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:49 am

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I think traitor is inherently fairly likely because this is a 19 player game

The idea of speculating about a traitor doesn't really appeal to me though? Like, if someone like SS is a traitor, realistically either we will find that eventually or we will win the game first, and I feel like it's easy for that kind of speculation to be off base unless you find something like... Very convincing

I mean I don't disagree that FB claiming scum has traitor equity but also I think SS is just scummy anyway so shrug
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Post Post #6812 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:51 am

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In post 6807, Ydrasse wrote:I love that scene in warrior cats before fallen leaves goes into the tunnels to pass his sharpclaw evaluation only to be caught up in the flooding that kills him, leaving him eternally wandering the tunnel systems in an effort to escape and being in agony over his family abandoning him down there forever (Because the main protagonist cat went back in time to possess a cat that had a similar name to make his family follow their fate to live in the mountains)
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Post Post #6813 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:53 am

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In post 6812, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6807, Ydrasse wrote:I love that scene in warrior cats before fallen leaves goes into the tunnels to pass his sharpclaw evaluation only to be caught up in the flooding that kills him, leaving him eternally wandering the tunnel systems in an effort to escape and being in agony over his family abandoning him down there forever (Because the main protagonist cat went back in time to possess a cat that had a similar name to make his family follow their fate to live in the mountains)
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That reminds me I've got a hardcover copy of Firestar's Quest back in my parent's house somewhere and I want to go find it.
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Post Post #6814 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:04 am

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In post 6811, Ausuka wrote:I mean I don't disagree that FB claiming scum has traitor equity but also I think SS is just scummy anyway so shrug
Fwiw, FB jokeclaims scum so frequently that it would be a terrible traitor crumb.
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Post Post #6815 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:09 am

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oh

I am unfamiliar with firebringer
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Post Post #6816 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:11 am

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I mean, I brought this up d1
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Post Post #6817 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:13 am

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you act as if I have a good memory (I do not)
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Post Post #6818 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:13 am

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no worries
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Post Post #6819 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:23 am

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S_S brings up a reasonable point at first glance. Fortunately we can also check and see if there were any further attempts by Fireb to clarify the intent behind their claim directly to the scum team:
In post 840, Firebringer wrote:
In post 831, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why do we need to get into shitfights
This is too good a playerlist to get into squabbles imo
Because its mafia. nuff said.

i can't believe no one reacted to my serious claim of vengeful
In post 847, Firebringer wrote:
In post 843, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 840, Firebringer wrote:
In post 831, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why do we need to get into shitfights
This is too good a playerlist to get into squabbles imo
Because its mafia. nuff said.

i can't believe no one reacted to my serious claim of vengeful
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In post 905, skitter30 wrote:@nero i feel like some of his early posts were sort of nudging you in fire's way to see how you'd react to try to read you
i was def not reaction testing nero
In post 1782, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1714, ConManMick wrote:
In post 1624, GuiltyLion wrote:although CMM I do want to know who those other people are still
OK I read back some and ISOd some folks
I think there's scum in:
Ari, marci, the eira slot, frog, firered
I need to read marci's iso because it was all incidental stuff from reading other folks'.
I think your push on FB is wrong but useful and I like your play.
My Datisi read I think is wrong for now and I'm gonna move my vote. Later stuff certainly appears to be working toward a solve. Page 28 interactions with FB aside but I thing ye all talked about that enough.
I thought also maybe skip and scamp had scum between them but then actually skitter's iso looked pretty good and I haven't looked at scamp properly yet.
HEMs early stuff I thought town and also VP but a few things struck me as off from both and I would like to look back properly at both.
I don't particularly think FB is town but I can wait for him to kick into gear for now and he's done enough that I am not auto scumreading so I don't want to vote there right now.
I am interested in seeing more of Xof's iso dives to see what kind of content is there
I will look at some stuff in the morning. I'm trying to just chuck down rough notes so I don't have to start fresh so I appreciate this is a bit halfhazard.

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I disagree heavily with this. I neither think his push on me was useful and I don't think he should believe it was. And I am not getting why you saw it useful.

Actually more i think about that post the more i don't like it. You better not be scum conman.

pedit frogster hey buddy how u doing. I don't care about gamma. But ur welcome to continue talking about them as much as you want. I am here to play, and if you poke me again I will poke harder back.
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In post 1781, Frogsterking wrote:Firebringer is here to bail out Gamma or is just oblivious?
I am going to word this nicely.
But was this post made with the intention of trying to annoy me or just made without thinking?
I don't know.

I am going to calm down now because this post shouldn't have bugged me as much as it should and you probably didn't intend it to.
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I think FireB's odd entrance and exit beginning in and concluding in can be logically explained as a traitor signal to Gamma.
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Post Post #6820 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:28 am

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*concluding in .
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Post Post #6821 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:33 am

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I mean I respect you bolding the part where he calls you his buddy

Ironically, it's a bold play

I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest is going on there though
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Post Post #6822 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:35 am

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That is kinda funny that the most plausible traitor crumb in all that is toward Frogster
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Post Post #6823 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:36 am

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I don't care about the claiming scum thing I don't think it speaks to me as something AI

Firebringer was scummy because at no point did he ever indicate serious effort or inclination to scumhunt

also I think the part Frogster is calling attention to is the "I don't care about gamma", that seems like a possible signal to the scumteam that he's not a threat (if we're running with this traitor theory)
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