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[NJAC]

NJACs ISO is basically 3 things:

1. Do you think XYZ is town? Why?
2. What is your case on XYZ?
3. You didn’t respond to 123, please go back and respond.

This is quintessential scum fluffing. It looks like activity, but it’s not. It looks like it contributes, but it doesn’t. It’s scum playing facilitator.

VOTE: NJAC

This is a huge misrep of my play, and I find it very hypocritical coming from a player

whose contribution has been almost null

, and their posts are basically: I'm bad at this and that, that's scummy, etc., without providing much reasoning.

In a very, very mild defence of Porkens, for all their uncertainty and meddling logic I'd argue they've absolutely had reads this turn. The actual logic behind them isn't particularly solid (their read on me has felt fake) but I feel like this post is a bit overly defensive.

Well, I don't have meta to rely on, so my point stands still. And it might sound defensive because we're running out of time and I see a high chance of the wagon on me ending up in another mislim, so I better defend from the case made on me.

On a very brief skim through your ISO there, Porkens is absolutely correct about point three - there's a lot of cases where you're constantly asking people to go back and address something you've asked them. This could be something you always do meta-wise (if you can help me on this one then great) but the defensiveness seems odd to me when one of the three things they've pointed out is a fair and accurate representation of your play. Constantly asking people to go back and address points/questions is something which could come from scum wanting to look meticulous and townie in their approach to the game. And my issue here is I don't think anything in your response to Porkens necessarily refutes what they are saying, but I'll need to take a slightly closer look.

As I said before if people wouldn't have ignored me so many times, especially Professor and Galron, you wouldn't have seen me doing 3.

[MalcolmTucker]

Are there any responses you found particularly valuable/useful in informing your eventual reads on players? I could see how you'd argue it's game-advancing in that regard but ultimately I'd argue sometimes a basic "X is scum" is more insightful and can have a bigger long-term impact on the game and where players place their loyalties than questions which don't get answered about - in some cases - relatively minor issues which are easy to miss when players are posting quite regularly. (I'm also aware of the irony of this given my tendency to make big detailed posts).

[NJAC]

Professor's responses and perhaps some of the recent geraintm's responses to my questions, as examples, were useful to me because I got town vibes from them.

[NJAC]

Same with some of the first responses from Porkens to my questions.

[Porkens]

NJAC are you going to stay parked on Kitty? What is your reason for scumreading kitty?

[NJAC]

It's a bit hard to explain, let my order my thoughts:

1) Mainly gut, probably because of the tone of some posts.

2) I feel like he's adapting his game to change it from the last game we played, to avoid being caught as scum again.

3) Sometimes I feel like he's more informed than what I would expect from a townie.

4) As I said before, I suspect that slot more on D2 than what I was suspecting it on D1.

[Porkens]

For 1) can you show a post and explain in some way?
3) can you show the post?

[NJAC]

Town vibes for Porkens, btw.

[NJAC]

978 and 979 are probably examples of (1) and (2), and maybe even (3), like I see him too confident and the use of enumeration looks like he's kind of emulating my posting style in that game.

[NJAC]

As an example of (3) his confidence on Gera's slot seems like he is informed.

[NJAC]

At least one scum supporting the wagon on me or considering switching to it. Gun to my head Shidaji comes to my mind.

[NJAC]

Malcolm too, although his effort seems a bit more genuine.

[Galron]

I'll try to come back before deadline but I'll be busy, so no promises.

VOTE: geraintm

E-2

Njac coming back at me a bit was kind of townie.

I've really soured on geraintm being town.

VOTE: gera

My brain is trying to process ger's posting as scum but I think his style of posting is preventing me from it. Galron can you point me at what ger posts you were looking at in post 1202? atm I prefer NJAC before Porkens or much less ger. I'll be around to check in within the next 6 hrs, deadline's during my sleepytime.

I can't cite specific posts where I am and I don't think I really need to tbh but his entire play today snacks of something that goes beyond anti town. His tunnel on Malcolm okay fine I get it he thinks Malcom is scum. But to stay on a vanity wagon without even 1% curiosity about anyone else and knowing from practically the beginning of the day, despite multiple people telling him how that advances a town wincon exactly zero is either an extremely stubborn townie, which I thought given his stubbornness day 1, or scum. Regardless he can't be counted on and really needs to go. What sucks is that if he is town we possibly go into tomorrow in elo and that puts pressure on everyone else. But if any alternative to gera is town I'd really rather have them at elo the way it's going.

[NJAC]

Yes, Shidaji could be scum here.

[NJAC]

I agree having Gera at Elo is bad, but how do you know we will be in Elo on D3, @Galron?

[Galron]

we possibly go into tomorrow in elo

[NJAC]

I won't be online during deadline, it's my sleeping time. I'll be around like an hour or so if someone has more questions for me.

Given the circumstances I better switch to ger:

VOTE: geraintm

[NJAC]

E-1

[NJAC]

Yes, Shidaji could be scum here.

Keep this in mind if I die tonight.

Also don't forget my case on Kitty.

[Porkens]

Yes, Shidaji could be scum here.

Keep this in mind if I die tonight.

Also don't forget my case on Kitty.

Honestly two laughable concepts here: one is the idea that mafia would shoot NJAC. Why would they do that, exactly?

Two: the word “case” used quite loosely.

I’ll hammer before I go to bed in 3 hours but I STRONGLY SUGGEST anyone who reads this and isn’t doing so already VOTE NJAC.

[Porkens]

Ugh, actually scratch that. I’m not hammering ger.

[Shiidaji]

NJAC (3): ProfessorDrapion, Shiidaji, Porkens
geraintm (4): MalcolmTucker, Galron, salsa, NJAC
Porkens (1): , KittyTacky
MalcolmTucker (1): geraintm

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

[Shiidaji]

Ger you around?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: NJAC

How much time left?

[Shiidaji]

Votecount 2.6

Imany - Don't Be So Shy (Filatov & Karas Remix)

(2015)

Commentary: This song was a hit in Europe so the Americans might not have heard it before.

NJAC

(3): ProfessorDrapion, Shiidaji, Porkens

geraintm

(2): MalcolmTucker, Galron

Porkens

(2): Salsabil Faria, KittyTacky

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

KittyTacky

(1): NJAC

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-28 19:17:00).

I sleep