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I'd rather not rush this day phase tbh
Could you at least give me some time to consider the mech here
It may look like there's an obvious solution but I'm gonna go against the grain again and say that literally every claim that has been made could theoretically coexist and all be town"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Well, in retrospect the biggest tell is that if your role really took 175% then you didn't need to wait until N3 to use it.In post 2498, mastina wrote:I could've done 25% on both days, but I figured that 100% into 50% made for a better support of the D4 reveal lie that I was planning. (From the moment I understood the mechanic, I put the "claim that I'll claim on D4" plan into place, but I DO have some--very subtle--crumbs in my iso which tell you that the true reveal was on D3.)It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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fireisredsir Goodfellas/Rising Star
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you can explain it now!In post 2163, mastina wrote:
Roden's role is real, but it ain't town.In post 2103, Lukewarm wrote:I also feel like it is good design to make peta's traffic analyst have a false guilty, so that it is not just a cop.
You've proven that Roden's role is real, but Roden's role being real was never the question. Roden's role is, explicitly, real.
It is also, explicitly, a scum role this game. For reasons the scumteam has no clue about, but which would be obvious with a massclaim.
As a matter of fact, yes!In post 2108, Masquerader Blue wrote:If you were modding a 21 player and you gave Mafia 4 players (not confirmed), would you give 2 Mafia useless abilities?
I'm not going to out the why, but I'll say this:
The scum aregoing to have any strong scum roles: Ninja, Strongman, Roleblocker, Rolecop, etc.not
100% guaranteed they have NOTHING considered a strong scum role.
I'm not explaining this but I guarantee it's true.-
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This is true, but it would require town-Titus to fumble her role very hard.In post 2501, jjh927 wrote:It may look like there's an obvious solution but I'm gonna go against the grain again and say that literally every claim that has been made could theoretically coexist and all be town
Ideally Titus just flips RB and then we can kill fire afterward.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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With the way mastina carried on about day 4, if I were scum she I would have insisted on either killing or roleblocking her by day 4.In post 2496, Something_Smart wrote:
who would you have expected them to roleblock?In post 2487, mastina wrote:scum had no reason to roleblock me
If she is town, a roleblock on her makes a lot of sense actually.
I actually doubt that she, if scum, would have done no actions 2 nights in a row in a game with no multitasking, right?
Like if she is a scum pr, she acts. If she is a goon, she does the kills.
Unless the scum team is actually irchers role + 2 goons + 1 lol-
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fireisredsir Goodfellas/Rising Star
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and SS is the third, neatIn post 2504, Something_Smart wrote:
This is true, but it would require town-Titus to fumble her role very hard.In post 2501, jjh927 wrote:It may look like there's an obvious solution but I'm gonna go against the grain again and say that literally every claim that has been made could theoretically coexist and all be town
Ideally Titus just flips RB and then we can kill fire afterward.-
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In post 2424, fireisredsir wrote:mastina and titus are literally both scum lmao-
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I think this leads me to aIn post 2507, Lukewarm wrote:
With the way mastina carried on about day 4, if I were scum she I would have insisted on either killing or roleblocking her by day 4.In post 2496, Something_Smart wrote:
who would you have expected them to roleblock?In post 2487, mastina wrote:scum had no reason to roleblock me
If she is town, a roleblock on her makes a lot of sense actually.
I actually doubt that she, if scum, would have done no actions 2 nights in a row in a game with no multitasking, right?
Like if she is a scum pr, she acts. If she is a goon, she does the kills.
Unless the scum team is actually irchers role + 2 goons + 1 lol
Town!fire -> town!mastina conclusion
Scum!fire -> town mastina conclusion
Which is not what I expected tbh-
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incredibly convenient claim, if they know mastina was RB'd and thus technically didn't take any action.In post 2509, Dannflor wrote:for whyIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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fireisredsir Goodfellas/Rising Star
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??In post 2512, Something_Smart wrote:
incredibly convenient claim, if they know mastina was RB'd and thus technically didn't take any action.In post 2509, Dannflor wrote:for why
mastina is the one who altered her claim after hearing my results-
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Dann/Titus/mastina lolIn post 2482, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I think it’s somewhat likely mastina could be town and also lying here-
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That's why I said if Titus flips RB, because it lends a lot more credence to mastina's claim, and Titus claimed to visit her.In post 2513, fireisredsir wrote:mastina is the one who altered her claim after hearing my resultsIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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You're right, and that's why scum!Titus is the obvious solutionIn post 2504, Something_Smart wrote:
This is true, but it would require town-Titus to fumble her role very hard.In post 2501, jjh927 wrote:It may look like there's an obvious solution but I'm gonna go against the grain again and say that literally every claim that has been made could theoretically coexist and all be town
Ideally Titus just flips RB and then we can kill fire afterward.
In terms of timeline;
Titus claimed a masonry when it appeared Ydrasse was hinting Titus had a PT
Ydrasse claimed the result that Titus does not have a PT
Titus explicitly claimed masons with Mastina
then proceeded to elaborate on conditions that made it extremely clear that Titus did not masonise Mastina
I want to have a look at whether or not Titus might have genuinely made a mistake there or it's just a very quick attempt at a recovery. Titus didn't seem to acknowledge at any point that she made a really obvious mistake- it required other people pointing it out. There's something in there but I can't really analyse with real accuracy while my brain is frazzled from my in-office day at work."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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To what do I owe the pleasure of being visited two nights in a row when I said on D1 that the reveal would be on D4? When I said on D2 that I'd go 50% on D2 and 75% on D3 and 100% on D4? (Obv was a lie, will be at 100% now and every day future since I already fired my shot.)In post 2480, fireisredsir wrote:but she's claiming an investigative result and she is literally lying bc i checked her both nights and she hasn't done anything
Could it perhaps be that you knew that I couldn't have a result on you because of factional knowledge?
I don't believe there's more town killstopping power, or if there is, that they just sohappenedto have targeted me last night.
And scum aren't going to have an ungated roleblocker.
So a lack of result on you is still effectively a guilty, becausesomething caused my action to fail, and that something is almost certainly scum-related.
Like, say, a scum rolestopper rolestopping fireisredsir.-
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Klick is scum. Should have realized he was different than the Nashville game but I attributed that to being town this time.In post 2514, Klick wrote:
Dann/Titus/mastina lolIn post 2482, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I think it’s somewhat likely mastina could be town and also lying here
Klick/Luke plus 1.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Please outline the scenario where mastina is scum, and fire it town, and got these results in a game with no multitaskingIn post 2514, Klick wrote:
Dann/Titus/mastina lolIn post 2482, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I think it’s somewhat likely mastina could be town and also lying here
In post 2418, fireisredsir wrote:im a reddit moderator, i can check if someone carried out a night action. i used it on mastina both nights and both nights she did not carry out an action.-
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Fire, did you expect town-mastina to take an action N1 and/or N2? Also, did you soft your N1 result anywhere?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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In post 2519, fireisredsir wrote:my bet is actually that scum have a watcher or something and she originally claimed to bait PRs to target her, and when they got a watcher result that i visited, and i started the day saying she was scum, she suspected i had some sort of guilty and tried to get out in front of it
huh.
this is actually a reasonable answer.
But that makes the scum team goon + goon + watcher + Ircher's fairly useless role, which feels wrong.-
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Mastina is a goon? But mastina's not scum sooooIn post 2520, Lukewarm wrote:
Please outline the scenario where mastina is scum, and fire it town, and got these results in a game with no multitaskingIn post 2514, Klick wrote:
Dann/Titus/mastina lolIn post 2482, Dannflor wrote:Yeah I think it’s somewhat likely mastina could be town and also lying here
In post 2418, fireisredsir wrote:im a reddit moderator, i can check if someone carried out a night action. i used it on mastina both nights and both nights she did not carry out an action.
It's You Klick plus 1. You don't talk to each other.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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