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[MegAzumarill]

And I do think NK15's alignment is probably town

[MegAzumarill]

I don't think I would have reconsidered the drapion slot if not for Rodens pressure there. I have such a hard time thinking that's a bus. That's feels more purposeful than a bus should.
His Content aftee day 1 declines as well, which points to recruit

[MegAzumarill]

Nk15 as CL probably doesn't take the fakeclaim knowing the potential consequences. It's so much more attention to his slot than needed, gives out a hard and soft clear, and could so easily be replaced with a cultist faking a guilty or even unrecruitable claims.

Even if CL!NK would do so, NK would have been bussing his partner basically all day 1 with ample opportunities to switch off they just didn't take which

especially

feels weird if they managed to hit a PR n1 by catching a crumb

[MegAzumarill]

Which basically reduces into danger!Wifom*2 + Random PR recruit for the CL nk15 case

[MathBlade]

Correct.

In an NK CL world Mala is likely town. As I said earlier.

I don’t think I am explaining myself well enough or you’re not in a space/alignment to listen to it.

[MathBlade]

Different CLs have different recruits

I think NK15 explaining why he copped me will help.

[MegAzumarill]

Intent to vote Malakittens

I'll take a few houra to consider more but it just feels as clear as it can be in the circumstances

[MegAzumarill]

Correct.

In an NK CL world Mala is likely town. As I said earlier.

I don’t think I am explaining myself well enough or you’re not in a space/alignment to listen to it.

Do you think a town!Mala here votes CL!NK?

[MathBlade]

Correct.

In an NK CL world Mala is likely town. As I said earlier.

I don’t think I am explaining myself well enough or you’re not in a space/alignment to listen to it.

Do you think a town!Mala here votes CL!NK?

I am not sure. She’s been too quiet.

[MathBlade]

I will tell you if you vote right now I will not townread you at all.

[MegAzumarill]

Correct.

In an NK CL world Mala is likely town. As I said earlier.

I don’t think I am explaining myself well enough or you’re not in a space/alignment to listen to it.

Do you think a town!Mala here votes CL!NK?

I am not sure. She’s been too quiet.

I mean I don't really see much of a viable alternative.

Who would you say is Cult Leader?

It's between you/roden/fred

Again:

I thought fred was the cop hence me backing off D2.
I have to reexamine

unless drap really bussed roden I don't think its roden

which leaves me between u/fred

at least in my POV

I believe I been townreading NK for most of the game?

I’m really not in the mood to prove to you or anyone.

The reason why I backed off Fred was b/c i thought he was a cop D2 mainly because of the way he came out of the gate.

I think we can trust NK + Math so they are prob town, I’m town & it leaves Fred [???] in case Fred was converted N2.

Which leaves scum in {roden, JF & Meg}.

I mean roden could have bussed hardcore drap
Bc tech

All from Day 3.

In a world of CL!NK we'd lose anyway assuming not a significant shift here

[MathBlade]

I am starting to think that’s a you’d lose here not a we.

I think anyone who is town will talk things out and we pick who we think is CL out of the many many theories just fine

There is no town reason to do what you’re doing

[MathBlade]

You as scum are scared of me Johnny and Fred can talk we can find the CL.

[MegAzumarill]

I will tell you if you vote right now I will not townread you at all.

Like I said I think there's a window of opportunity here.

Maybe I'm scum looking for a game winning mislim/bus. That's a move they can definitely do here. More importantly that's a move they

will

do here provided I don't act first.

[MegAzumarill]

You as scum are scared of me Johnny and Fred can talk we can find the CL.

I mean
I'm scared Johnny and/or Fred talk you OUT of voting for CL.
Which I suppose looks the same either way.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah I wouldn't vote yet. I got d&d tonight so if y'all get any more catchup it'll be later

[MathBlade]

Vote Count 2.07

Malakittens (3):

MegAzumarill, Fredrick A Campbell, Not Known 15

Elements (3):

Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, Roden

Roden (1):

MathBlade

Not Voting (1):

Elements

With 8 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 7 at 9:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-07 21:00:00)

The only team that works for Mala CL to me is Johnny/NK15/Roden.

I don’t see how that team works.

[MathBlade]

I mean Johnny Mala Roden I am tired

[MegAzumarill]

Vote Count 2.07

Malakittens (3):

MegAzumarill, Fredrick A Campbell, Not Known 15

Elements (3):

Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, Roden

Roden (1):

MathBlade

Not Voting (1):

Elements

With 8 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 7 at 9:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-07 21:00:00)

The only team that works for Mala CL to me is Johnny/NK15/Roden.

I don’t see how that team works.

Why do you think it doesn't work?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I'll be working with the assumption that Not Known 15's claim is accurate.

This makes MathBlade not Cult Leader.

Roden's 213 is actually a very good point. I don't believe Roden would have made that post as Cult Leader.

Currently think MegAzumarill's posts don't tell me whether or not they are Cult Leader.

[Not Known 15]

Life's a bit hectic atm but I'll do what I can to post.

Not shocked at all by the Cop claim, NK15 was pretty openly soft claiming it yesterday. If I saw it then the Cult definitely saw it, and I feel pretty confident that him claiming to have checked Math last night just means he got recruited. Math doesn't make sense as a Cop check, nobody really thought he was the CL on D2 and NK15 had instead heavily suspected Mala. I don't think it makes any sense to want to elim Mala yesterday but then Cop check a consensus town read. Though it makes perfect sense to do so as a Cult recruit, because telling us that a town read is town is better than claiming anything about Mala's alignment.

To be fair I agree I am a horrible cop check.

So your NK15 culted N2 does make sense in isolation but I don’t think such a fake claim comes unless it’s well thought out and planned and designed. It could also be that NK15 was being selfish in checking me.

There’s a lot of what ifs and maybe NK15 can clear it up.

Because what I am thinking is 3/4ths of NK15/Roden/Meg/Mala are scum and one has to be town.

You were

not

a horrible cop check.
Many of my theories at least partially rested on you being converted Night 1. Going over your actions, however, on Night 2 again, you pretty much softed that you could be an Unrecrutiable Townie so you were unlikely to be converted Night 2. Malakittens, on the other hand, could have been converted Night 1 if you weren't; or even Night 2 to make them want to yeet themselves if the CL was in danger.
A Mala check Night 2 would have not shown me what I needed. I needed to know if you were town, however, because I knew you were extremely likely NOT the CL.

I think I will have time to do my re-read later today.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Spoiler:

Math isn't scum. Whenever he's polarizing like this it usually means he's town. I know that he can emulate it as scum as well, but I don't think he claims VT and intentionally avoids playing to survive here if so.

I almost wanna call this post disingenuous, but maybe it's just meandering and I'm grumpy
_

CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI

Tunnel much?
_

???

What?

This basically says that you think I'm town and that you're letting the cult know they don't have to recruit me because you'll vote me anyway.

Roden is fully not CL here, right?
_

VOTE: ProfessorDrapion

This 180 is wild and I almost think it's too stark to be scum
_

We aren't playing Cultafia.

If CL dies no recruit, straight up no nk

Oh dunk that's why only 2 have died
_

What's cult leadery about not voting in your first post?

Being afraid of voting and taking a stance.

I did take a stance.
On Gamma.
I thought their push on Elements was wolf motivated and still do.

Yes, and now I should townread you for changing your play like that after I already pushed you for hedging?

So NK15 is town d1, got it.

OK SOoOoOo at the end of D1 readslist coming up next

[MegAzumarill]

Spoiler:

Math isn't scum. Whenever he's polarizing like this it usually means he's town. I know that he can emulate it as scum as well, but I don't think he claims VT and intentionally avoids playing to survive here if so.

I almost wanna call this post disingenuous, but maybe it's just meandering and I'm grumpy
_

CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI

Tunnel much?
_

???

What?

This basically says that you think I'm town and that you're letting the cult know they don't have to recruit me because you'll vote me anyway.

Roden is fully not CL here, right?
_

VOTE: ProfessorDrapion

This 180 is wild and I almost think it's too stark to be scum
_

We aren't playing Cultafia.

If CL dies no recruit, straight up no nk

Oh dunk that's why only 2 have died
_

What's cult leadery about not voting in your first post?

Being afraid of voting and taking a stance.

I did take a stance.
On Gamma.
I thought their push on Elements was wolf motivated and still do.

Yes, and now I should townread you for changing your play like that after I already pushed you for hedging?

So NK15 is town d1, got it.

OK SOoOoOo at the end of D1 readslist coming up next

This is the most important readlist for today's lim, though of course the other days can also help for informing it.

[Not Known 15]

NGL

i thought Campbell was the cop and that’s why i was against the lim yesterday

I'll be working with the assumption that Not Known 15's claim is accurate.

This makes MathBlade not Cult Leader.

Roden's 213 is actually a very good point. I don't believe Roden would have made that post as Cult Leader.

Currently think MegAzumarill's posts don't tell me whether or not they are Cult Leader.

So, Malakittens thought that Campbell was town cop...
And Campbell's first post doesn't even mention Mala, and Mala should have been definitely worth a mention as Mala was a top scumread of Campbell yesterday.

[Not Known 15]

Roden you may be right and Mala scum but she makes more sense as cult not CL.

I don’t think a CL quick hammers their only buddy like that.

Shhh math
Don’t drink the wine
It’s not good for u

This exchange was what I missed when ISO ing.
Why would town!mala even make this post? Malakittens is making short contributions that indicate lack of time, and as town this is no good because it is a weak townclear on themselves mala attacks with no scumhunting value behind it.
As scum this makes little sense either except as an instinctive reaction to a

false

statement. I've looked at meg but the Meg/drapion exchanges do not look s/s to me.