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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:16 am

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Official Vote Count 1.04
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MegAzumarill
(2): imaginality, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat
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(2): Enchant, Testarossa
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(expired on 2022-10-20 01:36:28).


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Galron has been prodded. With 9 alive, 5 votes are required for Elimination.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:41 am

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In post 99, MegAzumarill wrote:Not really much.

Unrelated but I do like Galron for town here
Think 79-81 leans more into town than scum
Meg, why are you voting for ceejay? Why is he scum?
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:42 am

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In post 41, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 34, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 33, Galron wrote:
In post 24, ceejayvinoya wrote:UNVOTE: imaginality

VOTE: Testarossa
This real?
Not really that confident about it but it's better than nothing.
I mean nothing is what you're giving here to justify if it is serious in any capacity.
This pinged me the wrong way but its not much so w/e
Imprefection is the spice of life.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:51 am

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In post 94, Gypyx wrote:Hey Ceejay, is your vote still on enchant because the explaination for his positng style didn't convince you, or like, do you just don't see anywhere to switch to?
Don't know who to switch to at the moment. Only read right now is 39 Rats is probably town.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:58 am

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In post 99, MegAzumarill wrote:Not really much.

Unrelated but I do like Galron for town here
Think 79-81 leans more into town than scum
ehhh

I got the opposite vibes from this.
In post 79, Galron wrote:
In post 76, Testarossa wrote:
In post 46, Galron wrote:I'm good with my vote
Why though? The only thing that happened between this and your rvs was the vote on me and his comment on it.
That's the point isn't it.
In post 80, Galron wrote:
In post 77, Testarossa wrote:I kind of like ceejay's . At least the first genuine town pings I got this game. The Enchant vote supports it, although Enchant is rather pretty null to me, but I felt about it kind of similar.
This is true but it's an easy take.
These posts feel like a lazy way to dismiss and shut down reads without going into it too much.

What made you think this was lean town?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:50 am

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Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:00 am

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Meg probably should be punched as well
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:54 am

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In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 106, Enchant wrote:Meg probably should be punched as well
Punched?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:59 am

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In post 108, imaginality wrote:
In post 106, Enchant wrote:Meg probably should be punched as well
Punched?
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:03 am

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Ok
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:11 am

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VOTE: Galron

Upon reflection and discussion, there's just nowhere else I'm comfortable with my vote being right now.

I think Galron's weirdness with regard to my RVS accusation of Meg as SK, bringing up Not_Mafia's claim to refute it and then claiming not to have believed it, could be indicative of him being just the killer we're looking for.

That, on top of his very strange votes and refusal to elaborate on them.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:15 am

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Given they haven't posted since I wouldn't call it a refusal.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:25 am

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In post 107, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
In post 79, Galron wrote:
In post 76, Testarossa wrote:
In post 46, Galron wrote:I'm good with my vote
Why though? The only thing that happened between this and your rvs was the vote on me and his comment on it.
That's the point isn't it.
This is the refusal I mean.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:26 am

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Only the second quote was actually supposed to be there
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:16 pm

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In post 112, MegAzumarill wrote:Given they haven't posted since I wouldn't call it a refusal.
I think you’re talking semantics here. Refusal, non-answer, pretty much same difference isn’t it?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:29 pm

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In post 115, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
In post 112, MegAzumarill wrote:Given they haven't posted since I wouldn't call it a refusal.
I think WE’RE talking semantics here. Refusal, non-answer, pretty much same difference isn’t it?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:05 pm

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In post 111, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:VOTE: Galron

Upon reflection and discussion, there's just nowhere else I'm comfortable with my vote being right now.

I think Galron's weirdness with regard to my RVS accusation of Meg as SK, bringing up Not_Mafia's claim to refute it and then claiming not to have believed it, could be indicative of him being just the killer we're looking for.

That, on top of his very strange votes and refusal to elaborate on them.
I see post 67 differently to you. My take on it was Galron was just asking for your take on Not_Mafia's claim rather than specifically using it to refute your take on Meg.

I think you're confused and Galron's bemused by your confusion and I get the sense you're both genuine.

There was one thing in your post which made me wonder: "it, could be indicative of him being just the killer we're looking for".
Though I"m prepared to accept that it's just because you're discussing your SK read on Galron rather than an indication you're solely looking for the SK.

Do you have any hunches on who the Mafia might be?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:29 pm

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In post 107, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
Do you think when ceejay explained the reason in post 50 it was a natural time to explain it or do you think ceejay explained it because you'd voted them for not explaining it?

If you think the explanation was in response to the vote do you think that's alignment indicative?

Would you still be suspicious of ceejay's vote if ceejay hadn't yet explained the reason for it?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:35 am

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In post 117, imaginality wrote:
In post 111, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:VOTE: Galron

Upon reflection and discussion, there's just nowhere else I'm comfortable with my vote being right now.

I think Galron's weirdness with regard to my RVS accusation of Meg as SK, bringing up Not_Mafia's claim to refute it and then claiming not to have believed it, could be indicative of him being just the killer we're looking for.

That, on top of his very strange votes and refusal to elaborate on them.
I see post 67 differently to you. My take on it was Galron was just asking for your take on Not_Mafia's claim rather than specifically using it to refute your take on Meg.

I think you're confused and Galron's bemused by your confusion and I get the sense you're both genuine.

There was one thing in your post which made me wonder: "it, could be indicative of him being just the killer we're looking for".
Though I"m prepared to accept that it's just because you're discussing your SK read on Galron rather than an indication you're solely looking for the SK.

Do you have any hunches on who the Mafia might be?
I'd like to let Galron respond for himself as to what his intentions were/are. Say I'm right in my interpretation. You providing an alternative before Galron says his gives him a plausible out that he would have had to come up with on his own otherwise.

Regarding my SK focus, I am actually primarily looking for the SK today. Reason being, it's an odd night tonight, and odd nights are SK kills. If we eliminate the SK today, we dodge a kill tonight.

As for Mafia hunches... I WAS considering ceejay, and would have probably voted there earlier if it were just me in here, but once they actually explained things, the mindset looked pretty Town. Right now I figure there's probably at least one scum in the lurker slots, but couldn't tell you who specifically
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:32 am

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In post 119, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote: Regarding my SK focus, I am actually primarily looking for the SK today. Reason being, it's an odd night tonight, and odd nights are SK kills. If we eliminate the SK today, we dodge a kill tonight.
If we should hit the SK today it would just mean that scum can kill in any nights like in any game. See the last rule in the op.

I guess both of your hydra are too experienced to call that a town slip, so I will just treat it neutrally. although I would intuitevely lean on it being a genuine mistake. Tbf I have been reserved about you because looking specific for the SK is something I would have expected from scum as it brings a lot of advantages with getting the SK early on D1. How do you distinguish between looking for SK and scum? So far all I see is coming from the early "joke claims" in the beginning? (and treatment of those)
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:38 am

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But we’re talking about n1 here, so if galron is SK wouldn’t we have a no kill n1?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:42 am

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Mafia will have Daytalk.
The Mafia may only kill on Even nights (Night 2, Night 4, etc)
The Serial Killer may only kill on Odd nights (Night 1, Night 3, etc)
Pre-Game, the Serial Killer chooses between Investigation Immunity (Shows up as Town to investigation) or One-Shot Bulletproof (Negates the first time they would die to a night kill).
If all Mafia Goons or the Serial Killer is killed, the Serial Killer or Mafia Goons will be allowed to kill regardless of the night number.
@mod, this doesn’t take effect until the following night, correct?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:51 am

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I can answer instead.

This rule triggered when faction wiped out. Ergo, instantly (so if we kill SK today, mafia will kill at night)


Either way, i know personally Nancy and Radical Rat too well to know that they never read setups (less about RR though). I think they genuine believe in words they say.

Let me put it in this way though:
We want to hit ATLEAST NOT TOWN. If we have choice between Mafia and SK (and we don't really have choice), it's always preferable to kill Mafia instead, so scum still can crosskill. But we will not have choice most likely.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:21 am

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In post 122, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
Mafia will have Daytalk.
The Mafia may only kill on Even nights (Night 2, Night 4, etc)
The Serial Killer may only kill on Odd nights (Night 1, Night 3, etc)
Pre-Game, the Serial Killer chooses between Investigation Immunity (Shows up as Town to investigation) or One-Shot Bulletproof (Negates the first time they would die to a night kill).
If all Mafia Goons or the Serial Killer is killed, the Serial Killer or Mafia Goons will be allowed to kill regardless of the night number.
@mod, this doesn’t take effect until the following night, correct?
If one anti-town faction is entirely removed from the game during the day, the night kill passes to the other team that night. Every night anti-town will have access to a night kill.

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