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This makes a lot of sense to me as an answer actuallyIn post 3500, PenguinPower wrote:Maybe we’re in 16:5 with a traitor that can affect town productivity….idk.
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I suspected that mastina thought I was a PR based on my comment about asking Datisi about confirmed VT's. But, she should have known me well enough to not be as confident in that as she seemed to be.In post 3495, Uncrowned wrote:what did you mean by this S_SIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Or just an unrelated extra kill. The multitasking rule is carefully worded to not imply that the productivity mechanic is the only way scum can have extra kills.In post 3499, fireisredsir wrote:on the math, idk, could scum have a mechanic where they can bank kills or something?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Does it make sense if 1 PR claim is fake? Or is the discrepancy too big?In post 3506, furtiveglance wrote:What if Ircher was lying about 4 mafia? Does that make it make sense?-
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What makes it make sense then?In post 3508, jjh927 wrote:No, it makes even less sense if a PR claim is fake-
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Okay, I think the most logical conclusion is that someone gave an amount lower than -30%. Yeah, a negative number. Because we're literally at a point here where the numbers could only logically have been fudged by one individual, and they can't have been fudged that much without them giving a literal NEGATIVE value for production.
Someone is actively sabotaging our cafe work"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Are you saying that 5 mafia or a third party still doesn't make it add up?In post 3512, jjh927 wrote:Okay, I think the most logical conclusion is that someone gave an amount lower than -30%. Yeah, a negative number. Because we're literally at a point here where the numbers could only logically have been fudged by one individual, and they can't have been fudged that much without them giving a literal NEGATIVE value for production.
Someone is actively sabotaging our cafe work-
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Malakittens was informed of something. Could easily be the existence of a traitor who fucks with the numbers like that.
I just checked and Ircher's slip of the numbers came before Mala's first post in thread.
If we're assuming it's a traitor though we should ignore them on the basis that they probably can't act in any other way. Continue treating Andre and anyone else who later gets cleared by PP or Fire as innocent unless we lim the roleblocker and the game doesn't end."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yes. I am. If we assume 5 regular mafia, so 2 alive that don't count on productivity, AND we make the generous assumption that Ydrasse acted last night (which I personally doubt) then we still average no less than 86%. Without the exception of a role designed specifically to do so, mafia shouldn't have any effect on productivity.In post 3513, furtiveglance wrote:
Are you saying that 5 mafia or a third party still doesn't make it add up?In post 3512, jjh927 wrote:Okay, I think the most logical conclusion is that someone gave an amount lower than -30%. Yeah, a negative number. Because we're literally at a point here where the numbers could only logically have been fudged by one individual, and they can't have been fudged that much without them giving a literal NEGATIVE value for production.
Someone is actively sabotaging our cafe work
There are three possible scenarios;
1. Multiple town players have lied. I think this is basically impossible
2. Mafia got a second kill for a reason other than productivity. I think this is extremely unlikely.
3. There exists a role that is actively sabotaging production and can give negative values for the average."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Scenario 3 means there's a second scum, unless the Roleblocker has 2 OP abilities.In post 3516, jjh927 wrote:
Yes. I am. If we assume 5 regular mafia, so 2 alive that don't count on productivity, AND we make the generous assumption that Ydrasse acted last night (which I personally doubt) then we still average no less than 86%. Without the exception of a role designed specifically to do so, mafia shouldn't have any effect on productivity.In post 3513, furtiveglance wrote:
Are you saying that 5 mafia or a third party still doesn't make it add up?In post 3512, jjh927 wrote:Okay, I think the most logical conclusion is that someone gave an amount lower than -30%. Yeah, a negative number. Because we're literally at a point here where the numbers could only logically have been fudged by one individual, and they can't have been fudged that much without them giving a literal NEGATIVE value for production.
Someone is actively sabotaging our cafe work
There are three possible scenarios;
1. Multiple town players have lied. I think this is basically impossible
2. Mafia got a second kill for a reason other than productivity. I think this is extremely unlikely.
3. There exists a role that is actively sabotaging production and can give negative values for the average.-
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Depressed employee or somethingIn post 3519, jjh927 wrote:What else would you call the guy stealing money from the cash register but a traitor in this situation-
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Asked Datisi some questions. Mafia cannot impact average productivity directly. They can affect individual players' productivity, but the player would be informed if their productivity was messed with.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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