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VC 2.01

With 10 players, it takes 6 to make a decision. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-27 11:00:00).

VC

Not voting [10]:

Grib, Frogsterking, Bellaphant, Firebringer, Eiralox, Not_Mafia, Enchant, Aisa, Elements, BlueBloodedToffee

Mod notes

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[Aisa]

Enchant is mech posting, townlocked

[Grib]

I briefly thought mafia had an extra shot, but I guess the Macho modifier makes that less likely. Yuck.

[Bellaphant]

Welp, my reads are trash. I didn't want to think all of the people pinging me day one were town but yeah. My reads aren't normally that bad.

[Firebringer]

Thestatusquo died last night. He was a

Spoiler:

Town Macho Mason

HighPrincessErinys died last night. It was a

Spoiler:

Town Macho Mason

HPE killed by vigi
Shea by mafia.

Which implicates Grib/BBT

Although could just be mafia killing shea because he was not gonna be easy lim, and way too townread.

So I am giving up on my aisa read right now.

[Firebringer]

fuck it. ill sheep shea dead reads for once
VOTE: BBT

[Firebringer]

Welp, my reads are trash. I didn't want to think all of the people pinging me day one were town but yeah. My reads aren't normally that bad.

This post feels weird for town bella to make because when i read her iso she had stances but none of them were very strong and a few of them were actually.....shit one of her old posts is now pinging me in retrospect

[Firebringer]

(also, bbt, if you are snowing me like Lukewarm did I will be sad face)

FEELS WEIRD MAN

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Bellaphant
SHEA UR DEAD READS ON HOLD I MUST FOLLOW MY INSTINCTS

[Firebringer]

Welp, was vaguely hoping the scum read on TSQ would dissuade a shot there. That sucks.

are u being serious here grib. This seems like retroactive explanation

[Firebringer]

that moment where my only townread is Elements in this game.
Maybe if i pretend hard enough that i think aisa is town i will believe it.

[Firebringer]

Ill just go with enchant/aisa/grib are townie for reactions/posts after flips.
No need to think hard this early day 2.

[Enchant]

But i always mechpost

[Grib]

Welp, was vaguely hoping the scum read on TSQ would dissuade a shot there. That sucks.

are u being serious here grib. This seems like retroactive explanation

Nah. I had an epiphany. I thought about doubling down hard on both scumreads, but I didn't want TSQ to yell at me, so :V

I'm not thinking too much about the implications of the shot, since they were fairly easy rolereads for the mafia.

[Grib]

However, I do think we might've flubbed it hard by not killing BBT.

VOTE: BBT

[Grib]

Actually, I'll try an experiment.

BBT, would you be able to link your most recent towngame where you gave a read that was mostly, if not entirely, based on meta? Bonus points if someone scumread you for it. Extra bonus points if that someone was scum.

[Aisa]

Well done everyone way to be subtle
I was trying to be all suave and sneak in a teeny tiny question worded nicely to avoid arousing BBT's suspicions
Then you two go in and with the FINESSE of a SLEDGEHAMMER vote him, batter him and grill him so much I cannot distinguish him from a piece of zucchini forgotten on the barbecue

*for legal reasons this is a joke

[Bellaphant]

@fire, I'm starting to think you just don't like way I post.

I really thought I had day one more sorted, there was deffo scum inElements/ hpe/tsq/frog/n_m/maybe fire.

I want to look again at

eir

, who was another slot I wavered on.

[Not_Mafia]

I was the last mason

[Firebringer]

@fire, I'm starting to think you just don't like way I post.

I really thought I had day one more sorted, there was deffo scum inElements/ hpe/tsq/frog/n_m/maybe fire.

I want to look again at

eir

, who was another slot I wavered on.

In what way am i just not liking way u post. it looked like ur pretending to townread bbt i want u to explain how he was 'snowing' u more.
And i don't see confidence in any of ur posts to have a solve ready and u just listed like half the playerbase and how does any of these flips change that presumption. If i gave at a list of half the playerlist one has to be scum, i would presume im right like almost all of the time. There could still be scum in me/frog/n_m and elements 2 out of 3 being green shouldn't have impact on this assessment at all especially with it being so broad.

Either ur not conveying ur thoughts more clearly on confidence here or ur bsing me pretending u were more certain of thigs than u were because well ur scum.

[Firebringer]

I was the last mason

we always masons together mate

[Elements]

VOTE: BBT
This is scum and I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise

[Bellaphant]

Because you go into my posts just deciding I'm wishy washy: you did it last day phase and then backtracked and then did the same thing now. It's pretty obvious that there's a certain kind of player I really struggle with reading, and we happen to have a fair amount of them in Thai game. People who are actually trying to read me, like eir and honestly bbt, are reading me right.

I am town reading bbt. Pointing the tsq nk at him is like level 0 of a read.

I don't have a solve ready. That's not how I play.

[Firebringer]

if you want to go into more clearly how you felt you had this game more sorted and explain how you felt about all the slots preflip, i am openning to listening. I find a huge disconnect between that intro post this day to yesterday. You want me to do a deep dive and give you my analysis of how all your positions were and why i don't think u coming in here saying you had this game "more sorted" than prior and how i don't think that is connected to an actual mindset of where I think ur mind was really at?

Again, if ur town here. I don't think ur communicating ur thoughts very well for me to process ur solving/mindset.

Welp, my reads are trash. I didn't want to think all of the people pinging me day one were town but yeah. My reads aren't normally that bad.

Because this post is so quintessential a scum post. I have made this post dozens of times almost exactly like this. The mindset to do this is you have to come in next day and act like "ohhh noes I messed up some of my reads. I guess I will reanalyze them" which gives you more freedom to moving directions going into next day.

Anyways, first question again:
Why are you certain BBT is town and why was he "snowing" you, yesterday? I don't see BBT attempting to manipulate YOU in particular. What am I missing. I don't normally go with the joking "hey if ur playing me, ur doing really good right now" unless in my gut i feel like they are specifically playing to something to get ME in particular to read them in a certain way. Would like more of what was going on there that made u say that.

My assumption now really thinking/reading again is ur shocked HPE and Solway were town. I can somewhat follow ur HPE stuff and maybe im biased in these regards i saw solway town and HPE scum so its easier for me to agree with u gaining certainty on that. I even agreed that solway made weird posting.

You know what you might have a point that some of your posts I just flatly don't like because this

The claim without other reads is scummy, I can hammer?

Really irks me. Is this your actual thoughts? If I wanted to be extremely unfavorable I would argue that this was lazy way to justify the vote hammer. Asking permission is weird but given your personality i don't think it means anything.
How could you think not giving reads was scummy? Like....how? Not to mention solway said prior why he didn't get to do more which ignoring that it means literally nothing.

I almost just want to have a page and a half talk about just this line of thinking of X doesn't give reads when about to be hammered means scum. Like is that assuming he is newbie scum who doesn't want to spew anyones alignments? Thats only way i can assume we think its scummy and i don't know solway but maybe thats what u were thinking when you said it.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Solway

** This is -1 **

Yeah I'm not feeling this VT claim, something major is off in Sol's tone these past few posts. I'll be trying my best to be back in 5 hours, hectic morning here.

Can you go more into what was "off in Sol's tone" I usually consider myself a tone reader. And nothing spike my interest from his last posts, it was his reasoning that was questionable to everyone.

I almost want to ask why a VT claim didn't feel right related to tone of posts, like how those two are related at all, i kind of think u were just going he isn't town there but feels like u felt this wasn't how a VT acts if i am reading too much into it