Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[catboi]

This is a boring post that people will not want to listen to but in all likelihood given a setup of 4 clan hoods of 5 players + 1 stray, which seems very probable at this point, alignments were distributed randomly between all players rather than being mod-assigned. It is possible, albeit unilikely, that a hood is pure.


If you want to use the clans as mental bracketing for sorting a group of people it's fine. Just please for fuck's sake don't start chain-limming people in endgame because "we haven't found the scum in their hood yet".

[catboi]

i don't feel like i have a confident read on alisae or norwee, i do lean town on val

Why's Val town

[fireisredsir]

290

im not like super confident on it but i think he feels like town val to me

[Marashu]

This is a boring post that people will not want to listen to but in all likelihood given a setup of 4 clan hoods of 5 players + 1 stray, which seems very probable at this point, alignments were distributed randomly between all players rather than being mod-assigned. It is possible, albeit unilikely, that a hood is pure.


If you want to use the clans as mental bracketing for sorting a group of people it's fine. Just please for fuck's sake don't start chain-limming people in endgame because "we haven't found the scum in their hood yet".

I more or less just said something similar in the clan PT. But also don't stop looking for scum in a PT just because you found one, because there's almost certainly at least one clan with more than one scum.

The Clan PTs are just a tool to help scumhunt imo. Nothing more, nothing less.

[fireisredsir]

marashu do you have any reads

[Marashu]

I'm thinking catboi is town. Bell and Datisi kinda feels like scum theatre (or at least something's off about their interactions). Because of how our PT's been going I've been spending energy trying to parse that.

[fireisredsir]

what makes you think catboi town?

[catboi]

290

im not like super confident on it but i think he feels like town val to me

That's really kind of vague? Like what in specific have you seen that makes you think that? Elaborate a little for me.

[catboi]

Bell and Datisi kinda feels like scum theatre (or at least something's off about their interactions).

That's a pretty out there take. Why's that?

what makes you think catboi town?

Why did you ask about the least interesting part of the post, lmfao

[SCRRRDBEAR]

This is a boring post that people will not want to listen to but in all likelihood given a setup of 4 clan hoods of 5 players + 1 stray, which seems very probable at this point, alignments were distributed randomly between all players rather than being mod-assigned. It is possible, albeit unilikely, that a hood is pure.

DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE FOR THIS? WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE ALIGNMENT IS RANDOMIZED BETWEEN SUB GROUPS RATHER THAN WITHIN SUB GROUPS? IT'S INTUITIVE FOR ME TO ASSUME THEY ARE RANDOMIZED WITHIN THE CLANS RATHER THAN BETWEEN. I STILL BELIEVE 4 CATS WILL DEPART TO FORM SKY CLAN, AND THERE WILL BE 1 DARK ONE WITHIN THAT SUBGROUP OF CATS AS WELL.

HOWEVER, I HAVE NO EVIDENCE THIS IS THE CASE, THIS IS JUST WHAT MAKES SENSE PERSONALLY TO ME FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHY IT'S MORE PROBABLE ALIGNMENT IS RANDOMIZED BETWEEN SUB GROUPS?

we have 5 so i think yours are just missing people so far

(me / bell / penguin / fire / ceph)

I'm tunneled on Datisi and they haven't even posted since the last time.

SCRDB goes up a little. with one point of hesitation + unfamiliarity. Consider it an asterisk.

I KNOW THAT I AGREED WITH YOU EARLIER ABOUT DATISI FEELING OFF, BUT SINCE THEN I'VE DECIDED SOMETHING FEELS OFF WITH YOUR POSTS AS WELL. ARE YOU HIDING ANYTHING? IN PARTICULAR, I DISLIKE THAT YOU ARE TUNNELING ON A MEMBER FROM ANOTHER CLAN. I FEEL THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO AVOID DIRECT CONFRONTATION EARLY ON.

If you want to use the clans as mental bracketing for sorting a group of people it's fine. Just please for fuck's sake don't start chain-limming people in endgame because "we haven't found the scum in their hood yet".

I PROMISE.

I'm thinking catboi is town. Bell and Datisi kinda feels like scum theatre (or at least something's off about their interactions). Because of how our PT's been going I've been spending energy trying to parse that.

I'M NOT SURE I BUY THAT OUR PT HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO PARSE.

[Bell]

I dunno what your fixation is on clan stuff. But I just scum read Datisi because their approach aligns with what I think of as their scum game.
It honestly seems like you're failing to apply ockham's razor here and making an assumption based on flavor. It's a waste of glucose, but okay.

[Bell]

Er, I've probably confronted 2 or more people and been giving takes unrelated to Datisi, so I guess you're not paying attention because I don't really see what benefit you get from making stuff up that clearly doesn't fit what I'm actually doing.

[Marashu]

I've got my paranoid hat on for Titus but want her to be town.

what makes you think catboi town?

Well, the game has been going on for less than 24 hours and I feel like I've had the same thoughts as him at least twice already (28, 325). Beyond that, just a feeling for now.

[Bell]

Please don't want people to be an alignment.

[Marashu]

That's a pretty out there take. Why's that?

139 - 148 doesn't feel real to me and I think I'm fixating on it.

I'M NOT SURE I BUY THAT OUR PT HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO PARSE.

I mean parsing alignment, not content.

Please don't want people to be an alignment.

Would you accept that I am not currently in a state of mind to accurately read Titus?

[catboi]

DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE FOR THIS? WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE ALIGNMENT IS RANDOMIZED BETWEEN SUB GROUPS RATHER THAN WITHIN SUB GROUPS? IT'S INTUITIVE FOR ME TO ASSUME THEY ARE RANDOMIZED WITHIN THE CLANS RATHER THAN BETWEEN. I STILL BELIEVE 4 CATS WILL DEPART TO FORM SKY CLAN, AND THERE WILL BE 1 DARK ONE WITHIN THAT SUBGROUP OF CATS AS WELL.

HOWEVER, I HAVE NO EVIDENCE THIS IS THE CASE, THIS IS JUST WHAT MAKES SENSE PERSONALLY TO ME FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHY IT'S MORE PROBABLE ALIGNMENT IS RANDOMIZED BETWEEN SUB GROUPS?

basically I think having a designated amount of scum per hood is bad design practice because it rewards people for making arbitrary assumptions about neighborhood just because they exist. In particular with the whole game being this setup it just makes more sense things would be random and it couldn't easily be metagamed - like, trying to answer the question "would to mod make the stray be scum" isn't really mafia because you're trying to guess what someone who isn't a player in the game was thinking. Whereas if it's purely randomyou have to actually bother to sort that player. I don't know ydrasse's design sense specifically, I'm not claiming to have any insider knowledge, but I imagine she'd trend toward not letting the setup be easily metagamed like that.

But I just scum read Datisi because their approach aligns with what I think of as their scum game.

Go on?

[fireisredsir]

290

im not like super confident on it but i think he feels like town val to me

That's really kind of vague? Like what in specific have you seen that makes you think that? Elaborate a little for me.

i mean i already explained the specific aspect of his play that was reminding me of his town play idk what more you want

like i can go pull up the posts from invictus that i think are similar if you really want me to but idk what you're hoping to accomplish here

feels a little weird i wouldn't expect you to care about this

[fireisredsir]

Why did you ask about the least interesting part of the post, lmfao

it was the part that i cared the most about hearing what he had to say

[Bell]

@Marashu, UNACCEPTABLE! *lemon* Yeah, that's fine.

@Catboi, but it's embarrassing to give my opinions on people.
In general I tend to think Datisi is workman-scum. They think content+Activity = a shield.
And it's their go to shield. How they approached my poke and their generic statements this early felt like they were aligning with that approach.
I'd like to sit on it, but I just never can help myself.

[catboi]

290

im not like super confident on it but i think he feels like town val to me

That's really kind of vague? Like what in specific have you seen that makes you think that? Elaborate a little for me.

i mean i already explained the specific aspect of his play that was reminding me of his town play idk what more you want

like i can go pull up the posts from invictus that i think are similar if you really want me to but idk what you're hoping to accomplish here

feels a little weird i wouldn't expect you to care about this

No, I don't want to read his posts from invictus, I want to read the ones from

this game

you think are towny. If you

have to

, you can draw a comparsion between butt I want a little more than one sentence from you on why he's towny.

I'm literally just asking you to elaborate on your read, why are you getting so defensive?

[Bell]

The important part to them was getting in my face and saying I was wrong in an active manner, rather than seemingly anything else. Because they thought it would look the best.

Then again, my brain is broken

sometimes.

all of the times. Please don't listen to me. Now I'm remembering all of the times I suck and it's really discouraging. Even though, technically I've not misread Datisi yet, but when you think about it, that's like 3 times which isn't credible and also I was a lot more patient there.

[catboi]

@Marashu, UNACCEPTABLE! *lemon* Yeah, that's fine.

@Catboi, but it's embarrassing to give my opinions on people.
In general I tend to think Datisi is workman-scum. They think content+Activity = a shield.
And it's their go to shield. How they approached my poke and their generic statements this early felt like they were aligning with that approach.
I'd like to sit on it, but I just never can help myself.

The important part to them was getting in my face and saying I was wrong in an active manner, rather than seemingly anything else. Because they thought it would look the best.

Then again, my brain is broken

sometimes.

all of the times. Please don't listen to me. Now I'm remembering all of the times I suck and it's really discouraging. Even though, technically I've not misread Datisi yet, but when you think about it, that's like 3 times which isn't credible and also I was a lot more patient there.

Nah it's fine, I don't have a read on him yet, I was just interested in hearing why you had that read. That helps, thanks.

[fireisredsir]

290

im not like super confident on it but i think he feels like town val to me

That's really kind of vague? Like what in specific have you seen that makes you think that? Elaborate a little for me.

i mean i already explained the specific aspect of his play that was reminding me of his town play idk what more you want

like i can go pull up the posts from invictus that i think are similar if you really want me to but idk what you're hoping to accomplish here

feels a little weird i wouldn't expect you to care about this

No, I don't want to read his posts from invictus, I want to read the ones from

this game

you think are towny. If you

have to

, you can draw a comparsion between butt I want a little more than one sentence from you on why he's towny.

I'm literally just asking you to elaborate on your read, why are you getting so defensive?

276. like i said, i think it's towny bc he is like, viewing the game as if it's revolving around him, that alisae has this master plan to start suspecting him prior to him pushing a case on them so that they can be the one to do it first. and just the overdramatic 294 is kinda the same vibes. it's just like, really over the top in an almost conspiratorial way? and that feels like something that is not super easy to replicate as scum bc replicating it would require being self-aware of it as town and i think it's kinda inherently something that you wouldn't be very self-aware about. and additionally this matches up with my previous meta knowledge of val

and im just kinda weirded out by your approach to me here bc it feels v different than past experiences when you were town

idk if you've ever asked me to elaborate on a read in that way lmao

[SCRRRDBEAR]

I dunno what your fixation is on clan stuff. But I just scum read Datisi because their approach aligns with what I think of as their scum game.
It honestly seems like you're failing to apply ockham's razor here and making an assumption based on flavor. It's a waste of glucose, but okay.

Er, I've probably confronted 2 or more people and been giving takes unrelated to Datisi, so I guess you're not paying attention because I don't really see what benefit you get from making stuff up that clearly doesn't fit what I'm actually doing.

THIS IS THE ONLY VOTE I SEE IN YOUR ISO:

VOTE: datisi?

I'M NOT SEEING VERY MUCH IN THE WAY OF WORDS WITHIN YOUR ISO WHICH I CAN CHARACTERIZE AS CONFRONTATIONAL OTHER THAN YOUR PUSH ON DATISI. IN FACT, I WOULD DESCRIBE YOUR ISO AS QUITE PENSIVE BOTH IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PLAYERS AND TO YOUR OWN TOWN META. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU DISAGREE WITH ABOUT MY STATEMENT?

[catboi]

276. like i said, i think it's towny bc he is like, viewing the game as if it's revolving around him, that alisae has this master plan to start suspecting him prior to him pushing a case on them so that they can be the one to do it first. and just the overdramatic 294 is kinda the same vibes. it's just like, really over the top in an almost conspiratorial way? and that feels like something that is not super easy to replicate as scum bc replicating it would require being self-aware of it as town and i think it's kinda inherently something that you wouldn't be very self-aware about. and additionally this matches up with my previous meta knowledge of val

and im just kinda weirded out by your approach to me here bc it feels v different than past experiences when you were town

idk if you've ever asked me to elaborate on a read in that way lmao

Okay,

thank you

. See, this is the thing, I wasn't super interested in Val in particular, I was interested in

why

you were reading Val that way and wanted to hear more on it. It's easy to give one sentence on a person but it's a lot harder to fake an in-depth thought process. That explanation tracks, thanks. That type of read is very similar to ones I've made before. I'm not

sure

it applies to Val but also my track record reading him is, uhm, not very good so I'm reserving judgment.


I don't think i'm obligated to play every game the same way, because that wuld be boring, and sometimes my mood dictates I play differently. Also, I have not been great at reading you in the past! So of course I would try something different! Like, sorry if that was annoying but I'm

literally

just trying to get a read on you.I don't know why people tend to freak ot like this when I interrogate them on their stances.


Anyway you can be town~