So the Galron wagon was at two votes for most of the time without any real backlash. When rats joined the Gypyx wagon came up. However from flipped town and ceejay, who I am still townreading.
My usual rule of thumb on a slow wagon with no backlash and D1 scumflip is that it might have been a bus, but I don't really see it here. Enchant just nah, rats remained on Galron despite signalizing they could compromise on Gypyx. Their interactions with Galron don't seem like partners either. ceejay neither, his vote was the nail on Galron's coffin with abandoning Gypyx, he could have just waited for rats compromising.
Chances are not too bad that this was mostly town. Or at least non-scum. Doubts still on Meg though.
That would mean, that there was no fighting because Galron's partner wasn't really present, which would imply Gypyx or Kop. It's noticeable that Galron avoided voting Gypyx and Meg, which would have been maybe the best shots to get out alive. Well, maybe Meg not so much.
Just checked Gypyx ISO and didn't felt anything at all. I have to take a closer look here. Intuition may say maybe lost townie. ehhh
Meg got better for me during D1, however their townread on Galron and equalizing the Gypyx wagon with Galron didn't age too well for them in retrospect.
Kop hasn't given one single read and all he did so far was dismissing things (including townread on flipped town) or saying why some things can't be. Rather destructive type of posts. Between the lines he seemed on the fence about Galron too, but didn't really commit to it then.
Just checked Gypyx ISO and didn't felt anything at all. I have to take a closer look here. Intuition may say maybe lost townie. ehhh
Meg got better for me during D1, however their townread on Galron and equalizing the Gypyx wagon with Galron didn't age too well for them in retrospect.
Kop hasn't given one single read and all he did so far was dismissing things (including townread on flipped town) or saying why some things can't be. Rather destructive type of posts. Between the lines he seemed on the fence about Galron too, but didn't really commit to it then.
This feels so weird to me because I think aiming for the other goon just helps town win sooner. I guess they just don't want to get nightkilled if this is the case?
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
Just checked Gypyx ISO and didn't felt anything at all. I have to take a closer look here. Intuition may say maybe lost townie. ehhh
Meg got better for me during D1, however their townread on Galron and equalizing the Gypyx wagon with Galron didn't age too well for them in retrospect.
Kop hasn't given one single read and all he did so far was dismissing things (including townread on flipped town) or saying why some things can't be. Rather destructive type of posts. Between the lines he seemed on the fence about Galron too, but didn't really commit to it then.
VOTE: Kop
What's interesting is that his predecessor posted this about Galron:
Which makes me think he could at least be, uh... not mafia.
I mean, to be fair he literally claimed SK in the very same post, so I am not sure how serious that read actually was.
Admittedly the short interaction between him and Galron after that post is the one thing that gives me some doubt. It's an odd one to make as partners.
I remember you had N_M in your mid tier of those players that you don't want to lim on D1. Was it for a particular reason?
Depends entirely on which immunity they chose, which we have no way of knowing at this point, so... I don't find this line of thinking useful or relevant.
Which makes me think he could at least be, uh... not mafia.
It could have been that Not_Mafia knew he wouldn't be taken seriously, and was performing light distancing. Also could have been that he was legitimately SK and telling the truth in both statements. Also could have been that he meant nothing at all.
In any case, I don't think it removes the possibility of them being buddies, especially without a vote backing it up. And though self-voting on entrance is Not_Mafia's standard, he DOES actually vote other people later, and since Kop also refused to do anything but shade... I like my odds here.
Which makes me think he could at least be, uh... not mafia.
I mean, to be fair he literally claimed SK in the very same post, so I am not sure how serious that read actually was.
Admittedly the short interaction between him and Galron after that post is the one thing that gives me some doubt. It's an odd one to make as partners.
I remember you had N_M in your mid tier of those players that you don't want to lim on D1. Was it for a particular reason?
He usually does his own thing when playing which makes voting him not really productive when you could just use your vote on more interesting leads.
He also has an annoying record of correctly reading me as mafia early on in some games where we were both playing. This was a few years back though.
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
Which makes me think he could at least be, uh... not mafia.
It could have been that Not_Mafia knew he wouldn't be taken seriously, and was performing light distancing. Also could have been that he was legitimately SK and telling the truth in both statements. Also could have been that he meant nothing at all.
In any case, I don't think it removes the possibility of them being buddies, especially without a vote backing it up. And though self-voting on entrance is Not_Mafia's standard, he DOES actually vote other people later, and since Kop also refused to do anything but shade... I like my odds here.
Same and I don't really see any reason to dissuade people from voting Kop but I just couldn't get that post out of my head.
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
In post 201, Testarossa wrote:My usual rule of thumb on a slow wagon with no backlash and D1 scumflip is that it might have been a bus, but I don't really see it here. Enchant just nah, rats remained on Galron despite signalizing they could compromise on Gypyx. Their interactions with Galron don't seem like partners either. ceejay neither, his vote was the nail on Galron's coffin with abandoning Gypyx, he could have just waited for rats compromising.
What do you think about meg being a potential busser? imo the bahavior fits
-> tried to help the wagon on me get though the end
-> basically never told an opinion on the galron wagon, even though he showed some fairly big interest towards it
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by 34 where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with 79 where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
i'm also actually wondering why Enchant is given a pass by so many peoples
I have to take a closer look here. Intuition may say maybe lost townie. ehhh
