Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[SCRRRDBEAR]

VOTE: kittytacky

will be able to think more later maybe idk

WHY KITTY OVER MASTINA OR DATISI?

[Mistyx]

I'm sorry I don't mean to play 20 questions but which posts? and why?

mastina progression, think there's things turning behind the scenes there

also like 889 a lot out of a sort of indignation sense

kind of just vibes on how i think his posting has been trending compared to kitty and marashu

[Mistyx]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

[SCRRRDBEAR]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO REDUCE YOUR RELIANCE ON VIBES?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If my vibes agree with me today, then i shall rely less on vibes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have a question for Bell.

@Bell
How good are you at scum and do you think you could fool most town players in this room by pocketing and such?

[SCRRRDBEAR]

VOTE: kittytacky

will be able to think more later maybe idk

WHY KITTY OVER MASTINA OR DATISI?

YOU BELIEVE THERE IS LIKELY TO BE AT LEAST 1 SCUM IN THE LOW ACTIVITY SUB GROUP, AND KITTY SEEMS MOST LIKE SCUM OF THE LOW POSTERS?

[SCRRRDBEAR]

VOTE: kittytacky

will be able to think more later maybe idk

WHY KITTY OVER MASTINA OR DATISI?

YOU BELIEVE THERE IS LIKELY TO BE AT LEAST 1 SCUM IN THE LOW ACTIVITY SUB GROUP, AND KITTY SEEMS MOST LIKE SCUM OF THE LOW POSTERS?

WHAT ABOUT SHIDAJJI(T3) ?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say that T3 feels the most underwhelming content-wise in our hood overall when comparing all players.

[Mistyx]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO REDUCE YOUR RELIANCE ON VIBES?

trying to reread more

posting fleshed out reads when i have them so i can iso myself and not just go on what i remember

i'm not using the hood for notes at all since i don't necessarily want them to be influenced at all

[SCRRRDBEAR]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO REDUCE YOUR RELIANCE ON VIBES?

trying to reread more

posting fleshed out reads when i have them so i can iso myself and not just go on what i remember

i'm not using the hood for notes at all since i don't necessarily want them to be influenced at all

COOL! HOW DO YOU MOTIVATE YOURSELF TO CHANGE THESE HABITS?

[Mistyx]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO REDUCE YOUR RELIANCE ON VIBES?

trying to reread more

posting fleshed out reads when i have them so i can iso myself and not just go on what i remember

i'm not using the hood for notes at all since i don't necessarily want them to be influenced at all

COOL! HOW DO YOU MOTIVATE YOURSELF TO CHANGE THESE HABITS?

is this leading somewhere bc it doesnt feel productive and idk how willing i am to answer this

[SCRRRDBEAR]

i operate on like 60% vibes most of the time but i'm trying to minimize that because i get that it's frustrating for other people itg

WHAT STEPS ARE YOU TAKING TO REDUCE YOUR RELIANCE ON VIBES?

trying to reread more

posting fleshed out reads when i have them so i can iso myself and not just go on what i remember

i'm not using the hood for notes at all since i don't necessarily want them to be influenced at all

COOL! HOW DO YOU MOTIVATE YOURSELF TO CHANGE THESE HABITS?

is this leading somewhere bc it doesnt feel productive and idk how willing i am to answer this

OF COURSE AND DON'T ANSWER THEN.

[mastina]

All this was going on before Shiidaji had revealed themselves as a member, and Shiro had made a single contentless post. I guess it's possible scum are informed about the neighbourhoods in a way I'm not considering, but it seems a scum-pairing would not know their audience at the time they (immediately) launched into that act.

Scum would know the setup immediately from having membership in as little as two hoods. It doesn't take a genius to see a neighborhood that's "thunder clan", see a different one for a different clan, and then figure out that there's going to be four total clans. And if there's four total clans, membership would be loosely equal between them.

That, aside from the fact that the fewer are in a 'hood, the better for the theater.

I'm trying to see the whole thing through the lens of it being scum-theatre for the rest of the clans benefit and I don't see it.

I do, and I have a perfect game to show why, when I have the time to actually find the spots I want to show.

For instance, May I point you to eir posting starting here?

At that time there were--and this part is going to blow your mind--five? players in that PT. With three of them as scum.

Alisae literally did scum theater for

two town players

.

And then after the MathBlade elimination, it gets even better.

It became three town players to two scum players.
Alisae(A2), QuantumLeap scum.
Bulbazak, Titus, Ginngie town. (Creature too, I think?) (It was 5 after Ginngie died. Creature got swapped out but was still town brought in.)

Literally two scum three town in a neighborhood.

If you think Alisae wouldn't do theater, e absolutely would.

[mastina]

If your view on this game is predicated on a Norwee-Alisae pairing, I would at least have a think about what it means if they weren't. I'm pretty sure about this one.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong since you are a newer player and, pardon the language but I can't think of a more polite way to word it:
More gullible.

Alisae pulled off the very thing e is doing with Norwee in a game with

veteran

players. Some of the best on the site at the time, Alisae managed to fool for the majority of the game. And e had QuantumLeap, eir scumbuddy, as town in part of that deception.

Pulling it off on a comparative rookie lacking the same experience is, comparatively, easy for Alisae.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re not just an clown, you’re the entire circus.

[mastina]

One of

my abilities is listed as Apprentice. It is a passive that states I am not allowed to use abilities until I am promoted.

Btw.

Y'all know that Alisae is implying e has more than one ability here, right?

Which alignment usually has more abilities?

Obviously it's not a given/not guaranteed.

But y'know.

It's still something I'm calling a scumslip.

[Alisae]

One of

my abilities is listed as Apprentice. It is a passive that states I am not allowed to use abilities until I am promoted.

Btw.

Y'all know that Alisae is implying e has more than one ability here, right?

Which alignment usually has more abilities?

Obviously it's not a given/not guaranteed.

But y'know.

It's still something I'm calling a scumslip.

[mastina]

It was mainly snark and confusion on my end; I did think that it might be a PT slip but figured that scum would be more careful. I hadn't considered whether or not the scum PT would be open during pre-game.

I was too busy trying to figure out if I was misreading the title of the Clan PT.

yeah, ... what?
what do you mean with the bold

You seem to underestimate my levels of self-doubt. My process was refresh PT and confirm there were no other posts, look at the title at the top, look at the banner in the PT, go back to my role PM to make sure it matched the PT and that I wasn't assigned to the wrong one, go back to the main thread and make sure it said ThunderClan, go to the PT Directory and confirm it said ThunderClan, go back into it, refresh a couple more times, and re-read the main thread again.

How the fuck is anyone scumreading Marashu again???

Why the fuck is there a Marashu wagon when this is pretty damn obviously town?

Like, Marashu is hard-spewed town here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Alisae was self-concious about having lot of abilities as scum wouldn’t they just not mention it right out from the gate?

[mastina]

LOCKTOWN:
{catboi, Datisi, Dannflor, Bell, fireisredsir, Val89, Frozen Angel*}
{Charloux, Marashu, Mixtyx}
(second tier still locktown, just not same certainty--all of them I

almost

put in the above tier, so the separation between them is

very

small and nearly nonexistent.)

TOWN:
{SCRRRDBEAR, Cephrir}

{PenguinPower}

TOWN?:
{Shiro, Shiidaji}

???
{KittyTacky}
{Titus}


PROBABLY SCUM:
{Something_Smart}

SCUM:
{Alisae}
{NorwegianboyEE}

[mastina]

If Alisae was self-conscious about having lot of abilities as scum wouldn’t they just not mention it right out from the gate?

That's why it's called a scumslip. Alisae wouldn't think about the language "one of" implies and wouldn't realize it gave away having multiple.

[mastina]

{Charloux, Marashu, Mixtyx, Val89}
(second tier still locktown, just not same certainty--all of them I almost put in the above tier, so the separation between them is very small and nearly nonexistent.)

WHY DID YOU BOTHER TO PUT THIS HERE?

Because tiers are important?

[mastina]

{catboi, Datisi, Dannflor, Bell, fireisredsir, Val89, Marashu, Frozen Angel*}
{Charloux, Mixtyx}
(second tier still locktown, just not same certainty--all of them I almost put in the above tier, so the separation between them is very small and nearly nonexistent.)

TOWN:
{SCRRRDBEAR, Cephrir}

{PenguinPower}

TOWN?:
{Shiro, Shiidaji}

???
{KittyTacky}
{Titus}


PROBABLY SCUM:
{Something_Smart}

SCUM:
{Alisae}
{NorwegianboyEE}

Admittedly, I need to verify the FA read. (Working on it. Well I say that, but I'm not right now. I

will

be tho.)

Admittedly, the townreads are a bit stale (tho I still think Ceph is town anyway).

Admittedly, I have too few scumreads.

But like.

My locktown are never flipping scum here, ever.

And genuinely, with that many locktown the game is effectively an autosolve.

[mastina]

Excluding the above, its appears to me that Mastina has come up with the theory based on my second-hand description of the interactions between the two in Windclan.

No, it's largely from individually scumreading Norwee, individually scumreading Alisae, Norwee and Alisae hard-defending each other, and having seen first-hand Alisae use the exact tactic e is using in this game, in a prior game where e was scum.

All of that

before

the secondhand description, which was just what seals the deal.