Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[T-Bone]

Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

~Titus

I agree her reads are illogical but she’s town.

Happy?

You should have just let Mastina answer this. It's a reasonable question.

[T-Bone]

Or rather I wish you did anyway

[mastina]

(I do have 'crumbs but I am going to bed, if it's THAT important and you want it and I'm alive tomorrow I can fetch them, and explain why I thought MathBlade's crumbs were breadcrumbing my role.)

I would like them but it’s not as urgent. More so that hopefully this doesn’t happen again.
What would happen if you check the attunement of a player and they weren’t Sun or Moon?
Say Dawn or Dusk?
Is every player explicitly Sun or Moon?

I THINK everyone's sun or moon (my misremember of my role PM was thinking that I was a Light/Sun attuned person), but I haven't checked.

Too tired to even write a good question, but I'll ask tomorrow and get an answer pronto then.

Neopolitan+Strange Rolecop

This is probably a closer descriptor. (I knew there was a modifier that's similar to Indecisive but whole game rather than one night, just couldn't remember it and it's not in the role PM itself.) Between this and 2860 at least.

You have no idea just how gamebreaking that is Mastina.

Apparently not, since I thought my role wasn't anything amazing. (Granted I forgot half of it and misremembered part of it, so.)
I guess I was

in a sense

not off the mark then when I picked up on you having something similar to me, I just was wildly off about the specifics.
(But, need sleep, we can coordinate and talk it out better tomorrow.)

[mastina]

Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

Nancy shared Auro thoughts at a point.

[Radical Rat]

Six scum AND recruitment is a hell of a balancing choice though, so I don't think both can be genuine slips... I'll come back to it after sleep

[Scarfmanship]

Sounds like you just have mod-confirmed existence of an investigation immunity. I don't know why you'd expect that to apply to me, though it is good information to have.

I do believe your claim, and actually see exactly why you reacted the way you did to Math's crumbs now. The catch there is that I stand by what I said before. Especially with roles this specific, I don't believe a Townie looks at vague crumbs and jumps to the conclusion that scum is softing a role they likely don't know exists. I do believe a relatively powerful scum role expects a counterpart on the other team and would be sensitive to clues on that front.

The ability itself... Could go either way, but seems more useful for scum. For Town, it's not a hard guilty, but it does allow us to determine players aren't on the SAME scumteam... But for scum Moon attunement means a potential rival, while Sun attunement means potential interference (like me). And then there's one other thing...

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

not mastina, but a few things here:

no, it doesn't imply investigation immunity exists, because what if checking an unattuned VT gives you no result?

the fact that mastina can't check the same person twice hits at recruitment, because what if someone unattuned gets recruited?

this is also part of why want everyone to shut up about their attunement because what if the cult can only recruit unattuned people (VTs?) or what if they can only recruit PRs of their same attunement?

[mastina]

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

The can't-target-same-player-twice part. As an investigative that gets information about something that people expect to be immutable (unchangeable), why would I be unable to check someone twice?

Thus, implication that it's to prevent me from seeing a change in attunement, implying recruitment but not being explicit.

[Enchant]

Imagine mastina being converted

[Past Present Future]

Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

Nancy shared Auro thoughts at a point.

Where? When?

~Titus

[MathBlade]

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

The can't-target-same-player-twice part. As an investigative that gets information about something that people expect to be immutable (unchangeable), why would I be unable to check someone twice?

Thus, implication that it's to prevent me from seeing a change in attunement, implying recruitment but not being explicit.

My role also implies a high number of scum and massive swing.

Knowing her role and what I will

never

disclose of mine we are meant to work hand in hand.

[Radical Rat]

no, it doesn't imply investigation immunity exists, because what if checking an unattuned VT gives you no result?

I meant the part where she said something could prevent her from targeting certain players, and expected that I would have a similar clause in my role.

[Radical Rat]

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

The can't-target-same-player-twice part. As an investigative that gets information about something that people expect to be immutable (unchangeable), why would I be unable to check someone twice?

Thus, implication that it's to prevent me from seeing a change in attunement, implying recruitment but not being explicit.

That does make sense, and apparently scarf saw it too, so alright then. I blame me being tired

[MathBlade]

no, it doesn't imply investigation immunity exists, because what if checking an unattuned VT gives you no result?

I meant the part where she said something could prevent her from targeting certain players, and expected that I would have a similar clause in my role.

I’d say if your role is true the limitation would be that not everyone would be burning.

[Scarfmanship]

VOTE: Bunnyonce

I need to sleep now if my body is going to get any benefit out of the exercise I did today. We're back in the game, LFG.

[Radical Rat]

UNVOTE:

I'm going to look over all this with fresh eyes tomorrow. MathBlade's role apparently being complementary takes away from my suspicion it's a scum investigative, though I do still think mastina's play has been scummy... I don't know, but I'm not going to figure any of it out without sleep.

[Past Present Future]

Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

~Titus

Auro has read nothing, he’s been dealing with rl health issues. He hopefully will eventually join us when he feels up to it but no idea when that will be.

[MMR]

UNVOTE:

I'm going to look over all this with fresh eyes tomorrow. MathBlade's role apparently being complementary takes away from my suspicion it's a scum investigative, though I do still think mastina's play has been scummy... I don't know, but I'm not going to figure any of it out without sleep.

Wait.
Is there another Investigative now?
Both me and Mumps are really behind.
Measles also seems kinda busy so I have no idea what happened since my V/LA began and what Math told me yesterday.
-Rubella

[furtiveglance]

I'm here. Man's just confused now.

[furtiveglance]

I don't think Bunnyonce is a good vote.

[Yume]

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

The can't-target-same-player-twice part. As an investigative that gets information about something that people expect to be immutable (unchangeable), why would I be unable to check someone twice?

Thus, implication that it's to prevent me from seeing a change in attunement, implying recruitment but not being explicit.

My role also implies a high number of scum and massive swing.

Knowing her role and what I will

never

disclose of mine we are meant to work hand in hand.

If so, then lim someone else.

[furtiveglance]

The cult flip I am most sure on is now

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

This was a lot to process!

UNVOTE:

I'll think on it all while at work. Bella will probably be pleased with a Bunnyonce wagon

[professotic]

VOTE: Bunnyonce

This wagon has too much resistance, it’s a wolf.

[professotic]

The cult flip I am most sure on is now

VOTE: Ydrasse

SavetheDragons Slot is Town, try again.

[professotic]

Bunny, Scarf, Unwnd and MMR is who I’m down to go on RN.