Micro 1063: Even-Odd Killers | Game Over

MegAzumarill · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:48 pm

Which is a fair enough reason to Veto

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:51 pm

In post 399, MegAzumarill wrote:Tetra is the person that dies before elo in worse case scenario

I don’t see how confitown dies before cop, which is what I think most likely happens tonight and why it’s such a bsd plan.

MegAzumarill · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:57 pm

Because there's a second kill after we kill enchant tomorrow

MegAzumarill · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:57 pm

Gypyx dies tonight 100% of the time we vote enchant today

MegAzumarill · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:02 pm

So why that makes the possibility of that happening on the alternative is beyond me

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:14 pm

Yeah, Gypyx dies regardless, but we don't need to let Testarossa die also is my point.

Enchant · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:27 am

In post 396, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote: I DO think that Enchant's scheme is the most boring and unfun way possible to achieve that victory.

I know i promised last post, but... Well

If you really-really wish to give mafia "Honest" fighting chance (which i don't understand), then you can give it to me as well (strange plea, i know, but continue reading pls).
You already know, Gypix are innocent and Testarossa is check, therefore also innocent.
You also know i am SK. Well i know i am SK, you just know i am evil.

Nothing of it changes ot Elo, if you kill me right now. Same situation.

So mafia (well i know mafia) hides in 39 Rats in a Trench Coat/MegAzumarill/ceejayvinoya.
So... Go ahead, try to hunt mafia today. If you failed, you as well would had failed next day after killing me (because you would had exact same info in elo, as you have now), and mafia would had won. Except right now, if you fail, mafia doesh't win, we just go in kingmaker. In which i have chance as well (not big one).

And if you success, well. Where i hide?

So, why don't you if you wish interesting gameplay? Hypocrite much? Or i am less deserving this sportsmanship? If so, then why?

Enchant · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:35 am

btw happy birthday meg

Testarossa · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:54 am

Somehow I am insecure what people are waiting for.

Testarossa · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:03 am

In post 393, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Actually I think I might have hit upon the real solve here. Enchant is Mafia and Meg is SK.

I've been sitting here trying to work out in my head and with Nancy how Meg can possibly think not having conftown alive for endgame is better than having conftown alive, and it actually does make sense from a scum perspective. Supporting this no-lim scheme is a solid way to look town, and since it ends up putting them in a slightly better position than otherwise, they might as well.

So yeah, we just vote Enchant, and if he flips Mafia, go for Meg. If he does flip SK, then well. We play Mafia, like we all signed up to do.

No, scum hunted for the Cop and never shot Meg here. I see no one shooting Meg here. Pretty sure Enchant would have just pushed against Meg and not wait for the Cop claim.

If Enchant is the Goon it's either between you or ceejay. If he is SK it's unfortunately between all remaining three.

Testarossa · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:06 am

VOTE: Enchant

As someone who learned this game without no lims I can't really bring myself to vote that, so in doubt just kill the guilty. Everyone should decide for themselves though.

@Meg:
Also happy bday, even although I am out for your blood.

If it's not you, who is the scum between ceejay and rats?

Enchant · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:51 am

In post 408, Testarossa wrote:Somehow I am insecure what people are waiting for.

They wait before Gypix/You decide who i should kill.

But Gypix being Gypix, it takes hilariously long, so maybe you bother?

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:27 am

In post 406, Enchant wrote:
In post 396, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote: I DO think that Enchant's scheme is the most boring and unfun way possible to achieve that victory.
I know i promised last post, but... Well

If you really-really wish to give mafia "Honest" fighting chance (which i don't understand), then you can give it to me as well (strange plea, i know, but continue reading pls).
You already know, Gypix are innocent and Testarossa is check, therefore also innocent.
You also know i am SK. Well i know i am SK, you just know i am evil.

Nothing of it changes ot Elo, if you kill me right now. Same situation.

So mafia (well i know mafia) hides in 39 Rats in a Trench Coat/MegAzumarill/ceejayvinoya.
So... Go ahead, try to hunt mafia today. If you failed, you as well would had failed next day after killing me (because you would had exact same info in elo, as you have now), and mafia would had won. Except right now, if you fail, mafia doesh't win, we just go in kingmaker. In which i have chance as well (not big one).

And if you success, well. Where i hide?

So, why don't you if you wish interesting gameplay? Hypocrite much? Or i am less deserving this sportsmanship? If so, then why?

I really don’t understand what you mean by this? I want to do what’s best for town obviously and since I don’t believe there’s any reason for us to trust your claim, you’re going to have to explain this to me.

Enchant · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:36 am

You claiming it's unfun and boring. I told how make it "interesting".

I don't need to explain anything. I am not town, can afford, and basically you need my help which i offering. Also, there's high chance you won't realise even if i do, considering how you fighted against (again winning one) plan with Cop revealing.

Again, take or leave it. I will die regardless. But i will roast you if you somehow manage to lose to maf postgame, because you threw your instawin for lose. And i am not even lying!
You probably think i do, as chaos acolyte. But neat thing: I don't lie this time. And you will think i do lie.

Hilarious.

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:04 am

My issue - other than the obvious of you being guiltied scum of course - is that in addition to it being in your interest to claim SK here whether as mafia or actual SK to not get elimmed today and then as you just rightly pointed out, you have a history of fakeclaiming and trolling. It makes you very fun to play with but less to understand how your mind works.

So up to you whether or not you want to elaborate more on what you were talking about but it’s hard not to agree with Tetra that no limming is suboptimal here.

Enchant · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:58 am

Additionally i can also just kill Gypix anyway, and say "haha i lied", even if i am SK. Because i have nothing to lose.

But would i? I am kinda motivated to screw other scum out.

Even if you don't want cheap win or "risk my chaos", how about eliming mafia first, so if you fail (you prob fail), i can win instead of maf in kingmaker? You have same info. Even Gypix alive.. to help you. Damn, I can't say these things not sarcastic.

I mean, i die, then gypix die. And you received no new info. So, why don't try now?

Who you would call maf today for example?

Testarossa · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:49 pm

In post 411, Enchant wrote:
In post 408, Testarossa wrote:Somehow I am insecure what people are waiting for.
They wait before Gypix/You decide who i should kill.

But Gypix being Gypix, it takes hilariously long, so maybe you bother?

That's why I hate being conftown.

I don't know, Meg maybe if it comes to it? I don't really trust it lol

Testarossa · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:53 pm

I have some thoughts, but not sure if it can wait till next day. Unless next day is checkmate when we got no lim.

I kind of want to know who everyone has as the second scum.

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:42 pm

In post 417, Testarossa wrote:I have some thoughts, but not sure if it can wait till next day. Unless next day is checkmate when we got no lim.

I kind of want to know who everyone has as the second scum.

We think it basically has to be Meg. I actually had her pegged as cop until she said she thought we were cop, and though Nancy disagreed with me on that, it's not crazy to think that Mafia had the same idea as I did if she's SK. And then she also has the best chance of anyone here at being Galron's partner, so. Either way, you're conftown, I can't see ceejay as scum here, and I'm me, so it has to be Meg.

MegAzumarill · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:09 pm

If Gypyx doesn't get back before deadline Testa should give the shot

Testarossa · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:31 am

Considering we are straight heading for the no lim route (not by vote but by the timer running out) we don't really have any other option than hoping for the best, otherwise... yeah.

Enchant kills Meg

And Gypyx or whoever replaces her Cop checks in ceejay/Rats.

In theory the game would be over by that. If it happens is a different story.

Testarossa · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:33 am

The whole situation is so weird, what is even this.

Enchant · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:02 am

In post 420, Testarossa wrote:Enchant kills Meg

kk

Marashu · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:28 am

Official Vote Count 3.03

Elimination

Enchant

(2): 39 Rats in a Trench Coat, Testarossa

No Elim

(1): Enchant

Not Voting

(3): Gypyx, MegAzumarill, ceejayvinoya

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-11-07 08:00:00).

Mod notes:

With 6 alive, 4 votes are required for elimination.
Extending deadline to adjust for weekend.
Prodding ceejayvinoya and Gypyx

39 Rats in a Trench Coat · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:29 am

In post 420, Testarossa wrote:Considering we are straight heading for the no lim route (not by vote but by the timer running out) we don't really have any other option than hoping for the best, otherwise... yeah.

Enchant kills Meg

And Gypyx or whoever replaces her Cop checks in ceejay/Rats.

In theory the game would be over by that. If it happens is a different story.

How can Enchant kill Meg if Meg is SK?

The fact is we don’t know who the SK actually is and your trusting a player who’s mech guiltied.

No lim is making unconfirmed assumptions.

I think that’s gamethrowing. Shouldn’t we wait for both Gypyx and ceejay to check in?