Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Grib]

I guess worst case scenario the lim is a miss, Bella kills town!NM and mafia kill someone else. That puts us at 3v 2m.

[Elements]

Should we no lim then? I don’t want to kill anyone else for the sake of it.

I was considering this when I was walking to saisbury's

[Enchant]

Should we no lim then? I don’t want to kill anyone else for the sake of it.

^ Scum wants us to lose miselim.

Vote Grib.

[Grib]

Elements obvious Grib partner for also considering no elim.

[Grib]

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

[Enchant]

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

We are at odds, no-lim loses us one chance, and you suggesting it antitown.

[Grib]

K.

[Elements]

Eira, will you claim tomorrow?

[Aisa]

1. We elim today
a) Bella kills town!Not_Mafia, scum kills someone -> 3v2 after 2 town-driven yeets, 1 scum-driven yeet
b) Bella kills scum!Not_Mafia, scum kills someone -> 4v1 happiness
c) Bella doesn't kill Not_Mafia, scum kills someone -> 4v2 after 1 town-driven yeet, 1 scum-driven yeet

2. We no elim today
a) Bella kills town!Not_Mafia, scum kills someone, -> 4v2 after 1 scum-driven yeet, 1 scum-driven yeet
b) Bella kills scum!Not_Mafia, scum kills someone -> 5v1 happiness
c) Bella doesn't kills Not_Mafia, scum kills someone, we elim N_M, scum kills someone -> 3v2 after 1 town-driven yeet, 2 scum-driven yeets

I hope this is correct, brain hurts

[Aisa]

Gosh, that ^ analysis sucks and doesn't help at all

[Aisa]

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

Yeah, the thing is, if the outcomes are either that N_M dies to the vig shot, or we elim him tomorrow, then why not just elim him today?

[Aisa]

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

Yeah, the thing is, if the outcomes

(of no elimming)

are either that N_M dies to the vig shot, or we elim him tomorrow, then why not just elim him today?

EBWOP

Which is why I think we should eliminate someone today. It might be a bad, random elimination, but (random elimination + Bella's vig shot to place us back into odd numbers) > (no-elimming and letting scum pick off a confirmed townie to get us back into odd numbers), no?

[Aisa]

VOTE: Grib
I'm so sorry if you're town, we live in a mad world
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[quote="In post 2007, Aisa"]Unofficial VC

Grib [3]: Frogsterking, Enchant, Aisa
Eiralox [1]: Grib

Not voting [4]: Bellaphant, Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Elements

[Grib]

Cannot comprehend that.

[Grib]

I dunno lol. Good luck town?

[Aisa]

Full reasoning:

(Elim someone else, Bella vigs Not_Mafia) > (Elim Not_Mafia, Bella vigs someone else) > (No elim)

- Cannot elim Bella, Frog, N_M
- Maybe we shouldn't elim Eira because of *strange handwaving*
- I'm not gonna elim myself (Aisa)
- Enchant seems town

--> I could do Grib or Elements, Grib has more votes right now

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Unofficial VC

Grib [3]: Frogsterking, Enchant, Aisa
Eiralox [1]: Grib

Not voting [4]: Bellaphant, Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Elements

[Grib]

I’m throwing away all my reads. Nobody try to divine the mafia team based on my posts.

[Aisa]

Cannot comprehend that.

Do you disagree with my mech spec?

[Grib]

You literally just said:

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

Yeah, the thing is, if the outcomes are either that N_M dies to the vig shot, or we elim him tomorrow, then why not just elim him today?

[Aisa]

It's not that I am happy to kill you off or have any confidence that you flip scum, it's just that I think eliminating is optimal

Ah, I suppose I said that Enchant is townier than you

[Grib]

Bella should shoot Eiralox. I cannot see a world where he is town. Can you?

[Elements]

I kinda wanna vote Aisa after that

[Grib]

It’s pretty insulting to be voted over the literal do-nothing slot, while saying you don’t even think I’m mafia. I almost want to just log off and check how this game ends two weeks or so from now.

[Aisa]

Also, from the way it sounds, we’re trying to use the vig shot in place of an elim.

Yeah, the thing is, if the outcomes are either that N_M dies to the vig shot, or we elim him tomorrow, then why not just elim him today?

Full reasoning:

(Elim someone else, Bella vigs Not_Mafia) > (Elim Not_Mafia, Bella vigs someone else) > (No elim)

I am using the fact that eliminating Not_Mafia is better than not eliminating him today to argue against a no elim. I am slightly less sure I am getting all the mech right for this second step, but I think that eliminating someone other than Not_Mafia is even better than eliminating Not_Mafia, which is why I support a non-NM elim. Although Bella shooting Eira did cross my mind, maybe I could get behind that.

[Grib]

So you followed my suggestion to threaten to vote out Eiralox unless he claims. He squirmed and made excuses and left, which is pretty fucking fishy, and…you did the exact thing you said was a bad idea, which is pretend to threaten to kill him. How do you justify that?