As someone who learned this game without no lims I can't really bring myself to vote that, so in doubt just kill the guilty. Everyone should decide for themselves though.
@Meg:
Also happy bday, even although I am out for your blood. If it's not you, who is the scum between ceejay and rats?
What happened to this?
Enchant is fooling you with his very likely fakeclaim. We might as well just congratulate him now.
Panic, more like outrage that mech guilty scum with a history of fakeclaiming is going to bamboozle his way to a win. You deserve a scummie for pulling this off, I’m seriously impressed.
However, maybe not because maj lim + lack of 36 hour prods also contributed to your eventual win too.
Even in altuniverse where i am mafia, i will lose without variants.
Next day will be 3 town vs 2 scum, with me still being outed. What i do next? Die.
I can only win, if you elim town earlier than me. Somehow. While i am outed. You need to delibately do it though (i already suggested how you can do it without gamethrowing much, but 16 hours is not kinda time to deduce maf so no chance).
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Why as town would I vote someone other than you when you’re mech guiltied?
If we can’t get you limmed due to lack of 36 hr prods not being enforced and badly designed setup, there’s obviously no way we get the other scum today who isn’t.
If we can’t get you limmed due to lack of 36 hr prods not being enforced and badly designed setup, there’s obviously no way we get the other scum today who isn’t.
I’m referring to maj lim because we could probably get you limmed if it was plurality but in order to get a maj lim, the 36 hr prods would have to have been enforced and on time.
So the outcome of this game will 100% be decided by this, so I understand why RR said this setup is “unfun and boring” now.
Because if you vote me, but fail to deduce mafia after i and Gypix die, mafia will win instantly and your elimination of me was worthless help to mafia.
If you instead tried to kill mafia today, mafia will not instawin, but will be put at kingmaker with me, which everyone can win, including me.
So eliming me only ensures mafia win if you are wrong and does nothing to help your situation.
So yeah, that's kinda reason to not vote me. Not including my offer which guarantee town win of course.
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In post 432, MegAzumarill wrote:If I do die tonight I do believe the correct play is to vote Enchant tomorrow -> 39 Rats but we should have a mech-win if I die so w/e
You obviously can’t die tonight if you’re SK. And your complete lack of skepticism is one of the reasons I think you’re scum > ceejay. If you were town here, you wouldn’t be so quick to go along with this, considering Enchant has a history of fakeclaiming but you aren’t even questioning the possibility that he could be mafia making this up.
Because if you vote me, but fail to deduce mafia after i and Gypix die, mafia will win instantly and your elimination of me was worthless help to mafia.
If you instead tried to kill mafia today, mafia will not instawin, but will be put at kingmaker with me, which everyone can win, including me.
So eliming me only ensures mafia win if you are wrong and does nothing to help your situation.
So yeah, that's kinda reason to not vote me. Not including my offer which guarantee town win of course.
We only have one mech guiltied scum and that’s you. If we can’t get you limmed due to maj lim and 36 hr prods not being enforced so close to deadline, how tf do you think anyone other than you would get limmed today?
In post 432, MegAzumarill wrote:If I do die tonight I do believe the correct play is to vote Enchant tomorrow -> 39 Rats but we should have a mech-win if I die so w/e
You obviously can’t die tonight if you’re SK. And your complete lack of skepticism is one of the reasons I think you’re scum > ceejay. If you were town here, you wouldn’t be so quick to go along with this, considering Enchant has a history of fakeclaiming but you aren’t even questioning the possibility that he could be mafia making this up.
Risk-Reward analysis puts me in favor of trusting this because it's high reward for little risk.
Even if Enchant isn't likely to be telling the truth, we don't lose hardly anything and if they are telling the truth we automatically win.
I'll take that gamble every day of the week and twice on sunday
The fact is we don’t know who the SK actually is and your trusting a player who’s mech guiltied.
No lim is making unconfirmed assumptions.
I think that’s gamethrowing. Shouldn’t we wait for both Gypyx and ceejay to check in?
I am voting Enchant and I think I have said everything that should be said about it. The moment I made my last post there were 5-6 hours on the timer till deadline and 2 of 6 people are inactive, leaving me, you, Meg and Enchant. 2 of these remaining 4 are most likely evil, which should say everything about what I am expecting here. I don't trust Enchant. At this point I am merely taking care that everything is covered, just in case he actually does what he wants to sell to us here.
Enchant is never surviving this game. Either he get limmed today or next day. Always.
Why do you think he is scum over SK anyway? I don't see someone, who is so aware of setup and mechanics, hardbussing his partner on D1 without doing anything else, in a setup where the SK gets the first shot over scum and a Cop, that can instantly guilty him without any means of defence.
She didn’t get to read Tetra’s reasoning. She who is confiitown, is clearly not onboard with this terrible plan but understands we have no choice due to deadline, maj lim and prods not being enforced on time.
Are you seriously in good faith going to argue that this isn’t true?
In post 369, MegAzumarill wrote:The lim today should be a no lim.
The lim tomorrow is Enchant but we have time to discuss between the remaining people.
The lim the next day (ELO) would be what we discussed on. (One of me/you/ceejay, depending on who is alive/result of the nk/check etc.)
I personally trend toward Ceejay as Galron's partner but I'll reread day 1 about it.
One thing to consider is that tomorrow we'll need to assume both the SK!Enchant world and the Mafia!Enchant world.
I mean I think me switching my vote from Gypyx to Galron day 1 significantly helped in getting Galron elimmed but okay
Everyone still alive except Gypyx was on that wagon including confitown!Tetra.
In post 369, MegAzumarill wrote:The lim today should be a no lim.
The lim tomorrow is Enchant but we have time to discuss between the remaining people.
The lim the next day (ELO) would be what we discussed on. (One of me/you/ceejay, depending on who is alive/result of the nk/check etc.)
I personally trend toward Ceejay as Galron's partner but I'll reread day 1 about it.
One thing to consider is that tomorrow we'll need to assume both the SK!Enchant world and the Mafia!Enchant world.
I mean I think me switching my vote from Gypyx to Galron day 1 significantly helped in getting Galron elimmed but okay
Everyone still alive except Gypyx was on that wagon including confitown!Tetra.
She didn’t get to read Tetra’s reasoning. She who is confiitown, is clearly not onboard with this terrible plan but understands we have no choice due to deadline, maj lim and prods not being enforced on time.
Are you seriously in good faith going to argue that this isn’t true?
Please stop insulting my intelligence with this.
Eh.
I don't want to be blunt, but Testarossa just fears even 0.1% chance of dying and places survivalism higher than town win.
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If it's not you, who is the scum between ceejay and rats?
