Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Game Over !

[Roden]

We playing what ifs now?

Let's just leash them?

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

no - i was correct originally - this setup does not use the normal version of the role

I remember this coming up in the last run we were in together

[PenguinPower]

You're not even claiming who you plan to shoot, which should've been the first thing you did after claiming since town should be using the threat of a Vig shot to pressure their scum reads and avoid hitting town PRs.

so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.

[Dannflor]

roden what exactly is the problem if we leash porkens tonight and revisit this tomorrow

I guess worst case scenario porkens uses his vig to take out someone town read like Penguin but then we just have conf scum

[Enchant]

Remember when i called Roden maf?

haha good times

[JohnnyFarrar]

Town

Gamma
Penguin
Enchant
NM
Dann
Junko
Roden
Yume
NSG
Kitty

Scum

VOTE: Kitty

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm writing down that Roden really thinks Porky is scum, and I'll put that post it on my mirror so I remember

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't like doing the whole "all the top posters are townie" thing but it is what it is

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma/junko/yume/Johnny/Rodan
? Yeah s that was you are saying?

Who and what was this about, again?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I also asked about this

[Porkens]

I can’t remember. I just spit freestyle 99% of the timr

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hell yeah

Everybody below Dann on my list is a shot you could do and I wouldn't be mad, Porkens.

[PenguinPower]

I wouldn’t be mad either, but I would prefer a tighter leash.

[PenguinPower]

Why isn’t porkens in your list though?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I mean I figured we'd discuss, unless we just wanna trust me to call it? I wouldn't trust me to call it.

[PenguinPower]

That came across as a read list not a “shoot here list”

So, why isn’t porkens there?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I was actually making a shoot here list. Even if it was a readslist I think there like a 60% chance Porkens solves themselves today so I don't wanna waste the spell slots thinking about them

[PenguinPower]

Why do you have NM outside the shoot range?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I guess I prolly shouldn't, huh? We could throw him in there. I'm just still on my bullshit about Dann and won't forgive myself if he's scum

[PenguinPower]

I wanna yeet nsg and shoot in {yume/junko/nm}

[JohnnyFarrar]

Kitty curious

[PenguinPower]

I’ve never played with scum!kitty but town!kitty is always scummy.

Happy to add him in the list, but I don’t have a reason to.

[Roden]

roden what exactly is the problem if we leash porkens tonight and revisit this tomorrow

I guess worst case scenario porkens uses his vig to take out someone town read like Penguin but then we just have conf scum

I don't really think I have much of a choice but to openly say this, huh?

Porkens has more or less counter claimed me. Scum didn't know whether or not I made the safe choice in picking Ascetic Cop, or the gambit choice in picking PGO to bait the kill. By claiming early and unprompted, town!Porkens has told scum that I'm not PGO because they actually took that draft pick. And despite knowing that I'm most likely Ascetic Cop, they're still choosing to shade me and throw a fit every time I talk to them. They should be asking me for my Cop check if they actually think I'm scum, but they aren't. This is objectively anti-town play.

From my perspective, I had to hard push Porkens or else I spewed that I'm not PGO. I considered bluffing and counter claiming here, but the hero play doesn't feel worth it if everyone is so against suspecting Porkens in the first place. Game state suggests that most people believe that Porkens is more likely to be a scum-siding townie than actually just scum.

[Roden]

This is all info scum already had btw. If Porkens is town, then scum know they're true claiming and that I'm not PGO. If Porkens is scum, this was an indirect counter claim, and because I didn't immediately claim PGO they know I didn't pick that.

Also, since the Roleblocker flipped first, the Universal Backup can't become an Ascetic Cop now. That's why I think Porkens is just scum who's trying to gambit here do scum knows if they can shoot me tonight.

[Roden]

Besides all that, Porkens

still

isn't scum hunting and has been in anti-spew mode all day.