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Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:34 pm

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In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
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Post Post #3276 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm

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In post 3274, unwnd wrote:
In post 3271, Scarfmanship wrote:So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,
Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared
He literally tried to stop that wagon.
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Post Post #3277 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:36 pm

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In post 3229, Enchant wrote:I never said i am Vanilla
Put me down as a -actually nvmind.
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Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:37 pm

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In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
Something something meta can't possibly wrong.

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Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:38 pm

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In post 3245, unwnd wrote:What about is it bizarre

Look at furtive's posts (this phase) and tell me if they are productive in any sort of way

I dislike when people say shit and then don't follow up, that's the most blunt way of putting it
Calling someone out for doing nothing does not count as doing something. In other words, jog on
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Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:42 pm

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In post 3274, unwnd wrote:
In post 3271, Scarfmanship wrote:So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,
Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared
This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.

It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".

Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?
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Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:43 pm

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That is not even close to what I implied
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Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:44 pm

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In post 2997, Bunnyonce wrote:This is furtive townposting (in my humble opinion). If it is true that he played differently as third party in Datisi's Café, this also helps validate this read of mine / reassure me that it is still valid in multiball.

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If anyone cares, two dead players - one confitown, the other > rand very likely town, hard disagree with you unwnd.
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Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:46 pm

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People can be wrong

Hell, I can be wrong

What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were

Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered

It's like it never happened
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Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:47 pm

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In post 3278, T-Bone wrote:
In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
Something something meta can't possibly wrong.

You do you and you'll probably feel saner.
Do I need to requote my post from Doubles’ where I correctly tr Mastina based off of - you guessed it - meta?
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Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:47 pm

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When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity

It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want

That is where accountability matters
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Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:49 pm

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And please explain what accountability means. Because to me bunny was a ??? slot and I was ok with getting rid of a ??? slot because no wagons were picking up and the day was going to end.
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Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:52 pm

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In post 3285, unwnd wrote:When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity

It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want

That is where accountability matters
Except that if it were mastina who was mislimmed, it magically wouldn't matter.
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Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:53 pm

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It's not some secret ingredient that makes town better

I keep throwing that word out because I find this game agonizing to read. I find it that way because there is no process I can gather that informs decisions. This is probably in part of multiball, but if I have to state it the last multiball I played in we clean sweeped the scum and I got this stupid worthless badge underneath my name because of it.

We sweeped them because scum had very little wriggle room and they simply got out-towned. Not in a spam post way more like a town had a clear directive and motivation. Things lined up in a way that was organic. This is the most smoke and mirrors game I've played in quite some time. It's frustrating
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Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:54 pm

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Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again

We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
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Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:56 pm

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In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong

Hell, I can be wrong

What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were

Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered

It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
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Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:57 pm

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In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong

Hell, I can be wrong

What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were

Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered

It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people

I can do more two things at once you know
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Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:57 pm

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In post 3287, Yume wrote:
In post 3285, unwnd wrote:When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity

It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want

That is where accountability matters
Except that if it were mastina who was mislimmed, it magically wouldn't matter.
And given the post flip reveals, it’s hard to believe the wagon on her was all town.
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Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:58 pm

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In post 3289, unwnd wrote:Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again

We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
Does it mean that town was lead in circles until mafia (mastina) took control and pushed through a vote on a slot no one felt strongly about?
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Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:59 pm

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Fed up of this game. I feel like the overlapping venn diagram circle of players I townread and players who aren't either completely self-obsessed and deluded was about [Bunnyonce, MMR, PPF] and then you killed right in there yesterday, and people are really trying to get on me instead of working with me as obvious town.
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Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:00 pm

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In post 3291, unwnd wrote:
In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong

Hell, I can be wrong

What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were

Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered

It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people

I can do more two things at once you know
Yeah, it's called being a contradiction with no internal logic. If you were really so concerned your vote would reflect it.
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Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:01 pm

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In post 3293, Scarfmanship wrote:
In post 3289, unwnd wrote:Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again

We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
Does it mean that town was lead in circles until mafia (mastina) took control and pushed through a vote on a slot no one felt strongly about?
What you describe is something I feel very strongly about yeah

I still think mastina is mafia honestly. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but her posts are irredeemably hollow
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Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:03 pm

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In post 3295, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3291, unwnd wrote:
In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong

Hell, I can be wrong

What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were

Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered

It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people

I can do more two things at once you know
Yeah, it's called being a contradiction with no internal logic. If you were really so concerned your vote would reflect it.
I'm concerned at what I see right now in front of me, while still maintaining my own sense of direction. Me talking about 'hey, I think scum was on this' can build upon looking outside as well, because it should be evident that I find it unlikely that
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Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:05 pm

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In post 3294, furtiveglance wrote:Fed up of this game. I feel like the overlapping venn diagram circle of players I townread and players who aren't either completely self-obsessed and deluded was about [Bunnyonce, MMR, PPF] and then you killed right in there yesterday, and people are really trying to get on me instead of working with me as obvious town.
I am the only person voting you and mastina who still has thread control for ???? reasons thinks I'm scum

You should have nothing to worry about, but you do because...?
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Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:06 pm

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I think 7 scum are alive and 10 town are.
Or 6 and 11.

Making the ratios incredibly skewed and leading to more chaos.

I won’t explain why I think this right now.

But I think a good chunk of the bickering is SvS or TvT.
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