Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Grib]

You mean Eira mailed her before, and then Titus mailed her again?

[Titus]

No clear on anyone alive.

[Elements]

No clear on anyone alive.

that's a shame

[Grib]

If there's no roleblocker, I am at least soft-confirmed vanilla.

[Elements]

If there's no roleblocker, I am at least soft-confirmed vanilla.

or stopper

[Elements]

Titus do you believe Frog's doctor claim?

[Grib]

Or stopper.

Five years of mafia and I've never seen a rolestopper.

[Elements]

2014-2022 is a long 5 years

[Grib]

Rip, seven years. I took a year off.

[Elements]

I think we should lim today. We have more town voices and if we lim correctly we get an extra day phase. If we lim incorrectly, I don't think 1 more night would make a difference

[Elements]

as in, if we lim incorrecctly today, don't think 1 more night phase would change the game enough for us to lim correctly

[Elements]

*would have

[Titus]

Titus do you believe Frog's doctor claim?

It requires a roleblocker or strongman to be true which has issues with macho masons.

[Elements]

I'm gonna go have a shower, see y'all when I get back

[Titus]

It's not impossible but I am skeptical.

I think all scum are goons but that doesn't mean a goon can't fake a PR.

[Titus]

I'm gonna go have a shower, see y'all when I get back

Work calls here

[Elements]

Sad times

[Grib]

It's not impossible but I am skeptical.

I think all scum are goons but that doesn't mean a goon can't fake a PR.

If all the scum are goons, then that would mean the town vig would be blocked from shooting any mafia. No dice.

[Titus]

It's not impossible but I am skeptical.

I think all scum are goons but that doesn't mean a goon can't fake a PR.

If all the scum are goons, then that would mean the town vig would be blocked from shooting any mafia. No dice.

That's exactly why I think the setup is how it is. Overload town but have a negative utility vig to balance. If the mod said loyal vig, the vig never shoots.

[Grib]

Ugh, I think I’m doing too much projecting of off-site mechanical meta to MS. I’m just gonna stop.

I do have some behavioral reasons to clear Frog, but I guess I don’t feel as strongly about it since apparently we can just have bogus roles that exist to be detrimental red herrings.

[Grib]

I guess in that case it makes the Doc claim more likely to be real? Town isn’t overloaded with a JOAT, three macho Masons, and a half-loyal Vig.

I imagine sooner or later you’ll have seen the context of Frog’s claim and early Day 1 crumbs, if those change your mind at all.

[Aisa]

I'm a joat, not a mailman. The only slot I feel rather comfortable with right now is Aisa. My scum of VCA says Elements Grib but Frog's doctor claim with a dead Bella is suspect. The masons were macho so why would scum have a roleblocker?

I can confirm this is true, Titus claimed JOAT and the specific shots to me.

Titus, why do you TR me?

Titus do you believe Frog's doctor claim?

It requires a roleblocker or strongman to be true which has issues with macho masons.

I agree that a strongman is less likely than a Roleblocker. But I don't think that an RB is that good against claimed Masons? Against a claimed Cop + hidden Doctor, scum can just RB the cop and call it a day. Scum can't exactly RB a Mason. I don't see why RB + Macho modifier couldn't just be complementary defenses against a Doc.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 4.01

With 6 players, it takes 4 to make a decision. Day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-11-15 21:30:00).

VC

No elim [1]:

Enchant [2200]

-- note it is only 3 to hammer the no elim option

Grib [1]:

Frogsterking [2193]

Not voting [4]:

Grib, Titus, Aisa, Elements

[Titus]

A good chunk of it is Eira's notes, but an independent review of the game state didn't show any problems with your slot. I felt like I needed to trust someone given how close the game was to elo (unless Bella had hit scum with their shot, which for reasons stated I found unlikely). I also don't see a partner for you.

[Elements]

Titus, how are you feeling about Enchant?