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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:33 pm

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I'm unsure whether one scum is YOLOing, one town is *throwing* or if the Government is a type of Jester. The Gov didn't sound like a Jester though.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:34 pm

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I don't really think that's a fair question to ask of the mod
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:34 pm

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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 pm

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[quote="In post 675, furtiveglance"]I'm unsure whether one scum is YOLOing, one town is *throwing* or if the Government is a type of Jester. The Gov didn't sound like a Jester though.[/quoted]
ugh I did not even think of that
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:36 pm

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I think I would be prepared to risk the game on there not being a jester
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:38 pm

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on that note I could see an argument for eliminating frog today
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:39 pm

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In post 661, N.Y. M wrote:@mod, VC please.
I'm on my phone right now but I'll try to make a VC ASAP.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:41 pm

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In post 680, DeasVail wrote:on that note I could see an argument for eliminating frog today
I'm fine with being eliminated today in order to confirm Roden scum.

Like I've said, my team solve is Roden/Passenger/Bell. I null read Johnny and Flavia and I townread everyone else.

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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:42 pm

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Yeah again let's not be like: MOD, WHO IS MAFIA?
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:43 pm

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Meh, I thought the silence from Roden after they claimed to have messaged someone was a bit dodgy. And we do get info either way.

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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:45 pm

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In post 675, furtiveglance wrote:I'm unsure whether one scum is YOLOing, one town is *throwing* or if the Government is a type of Jester. The Gov didn't sound like a Jester though.
He's not throwing scum by the way: he's gambiting in order to redirect the wagon off of Passenger and to potentially get a mislim on me. Most likely Roden's role provides utility to the scum team and Roden himself is no longer needed to be alive after his abilities activation, whereas scum need Passenger alive in order to activate his ability at night.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:45 pm

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In post 676, DeasVail wrote:I don't really think that's a fair question to ask of the mod
In post 677, DeasVail wrote:(@nancy)
Alright then you and furtive can tell me if what Frogs claimed qualifies as bastard or not? I’m not good at mech, so anyone who is, tell me.

Luke should know. I’ll probably sheep Bombay on this.

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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:46 pm

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In post 674, N.Y. M wrote:
In post 574, Frogsterking wrote:MY ROLE IS INFORMED FYI IN CASE ANYONE MISSED ME CLAIM IT:

INFORMED: AT LEAST ONE ROLE PROVIDES A MISLEADING RESULT

I WONDER IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO WITH HOW RODEN'S ROLE WORKS...
@mod would this qualify as bastard?
To my knowledge, it technically wouldn't.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:51 pm

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In post 682, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 680, DeasVail wrote:on that note I could see an argument for eliminating frog today
I'm fine with being eliminated today in order to confirm Roden scum.

Like I've said, my team solve is Roden/Passenger/Bell. I null read Johnny and Flavia and I townread everyone else.

My reads for Government have changed since last posting, and I now believe Dease is Government for my first choice and Penguin is government for my second choice.
Deas? Why him?

I do think Roden targeting you is really suss. If I’m some variant of FN, I don’t message a player who’s sr me. I message someone who is strongly tr and who will also confirm me but yeah, the resistance to the Passenger wagon is really strong.

@furtive, I didn’t ask that, I asked if what Frogs’ claimed would qualify as bastard or not. My gut says Frogs’ town > Roden.

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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:52 pm

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In post 687, RH wrote:
In post 674, N.Y. M wrote:
In post 574, Frogsterking wrote:MY ROLE IS INFORMED FYI IN CASE ANYONE MISSED ME CLAIM IT:

INFORMED: AT LEAST ONE ROLE PROVIDES A MISLEADING RESULT

I WONDER IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO WITH HOW RODEN'S ROLE WORKS...
@mod would this qualify as bastard?
To my knowledge, it technically wouldn't.
Ty, aren’t you all glad I asked this question? :)

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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:54 pm

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In post 684, furtiveglance wrote:Meh, I thought the silence from Roden after they claimed to have messaged someone was a bit dodgy. And we do get info either way.

VOTE: Roden
That too but mod - who you just scolded me for asking - just confirmed that Roden is bssing us, you’re welcome. :P

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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:55 pm

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Why would Roden makes that up tho
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:57 pm

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In post 691, Herta wrote:Why would Roden makes that up tho
In post 685, Frogsterking wrote:He's not throwing scum by the way: he's gambiting in order to redirect the wagon off of Passenger and to potentially get a mislim on me. Most likely Roden's role provides utility to the scum team and Roden himself is no longer needed to be alive after his abilities activation, whereas scum need Passenger alive in order to activate his ability at night.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:59 pm

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In post 691, Herta wrote:Why would Roden makes that up tho
Because he didn’t message anyone. Mod just confirmed that Frogs is on the level with that claim. It’s not “bastard”, therefore there’s no reason to doubt it.

And he took until today to do it. I have had a strong tr on Frogs since the getgo and mod confirmed his claim isn’t bastard.

Alternate question, why would Frogs lie?

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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:04 pm

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Nancy did you really just unironically ask why scum would lie about a role interaction that would confirm them as scum
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:05 pm

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In post 694, Roden wrote:Nancy did you really just unironically ask why scum would lie about a role interaction that would confirm them as scum
In post 689, N.Y. M wrote:
In post 687, RH wrote:
In post 674, N.Y. M wrote:
In post 574, Frogsterking wrote:MY ROLE IS INFORMED FYI IN CASE ANYONE MISSED ME CLAIM IT:

INFORMED: AT LEAST ONE ROLE PROVIDES A MISLEADING RESULT

I WONDER IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO WITH HOW RODEN'S ROLE WORKS...
@mod would this qualify as bastard?
To my knowledge, it technically wouldn't.
Ty, aren’t you all glad I asked this question? :)

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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:06 pm

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Hmm

VOTE: roden
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:07 pm

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In post 694, Roden wrote:Nancy did you really just unironically ask why scum would lie about a role interaction that would confirm them as scum
How does Frogster confirming you as town make them scum? Passenger would have been the elim
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:07 pm

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I just want to clarify:

Mod has confirmed my claim isn't bastard and therefore is in compliance with the setup.

As far as we know, there is no reason to believe that Roden has the role which provides misleading results, because Roden lied about the ability to mod confirm himself via private message. We currently don't know what effect the activation of Roden's ability actually had, though I think we can expect it doesn't require Roden to be alive once it's activated, or he wouldn't have locked himself into a 1v1 claim with me.

For all we know, Herta's theory about my role referring to furtive-who claimed miller-is correct. In fact that's currently my top guess for what my role was referring to.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:09 pm

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Absolutely baffled that I'm receiving votes right now. Did y'all forget that Koka flubbed their role claim? Did y'all not notice that Frog accused me of trying to dismantle the Passenger wagon before proceeding to dismantle the wagon himself? Or that he's accusing me of trying to sacrifice myself for Passenger when I just accused Koka of doing exactly that??

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