no I just want you to explain because I haven't done anything this game
I already explained what came to mind, I think you are smart enough to come to the same conclusion, if you were scum, you wait, tell the other person to hammer, and boom we are on yeetlo
playing longcon is suboptimal as scum
Fun fact, this reasoning is also not valid if Una is scum. Which, hilariously, means Dann does in fact have more scum equity with Una than with anyone else.
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, somehow I can't tell if I'm just explicitly saying things everyone else figured out two hours ago lol.
@Aisa true, but what are the odds that the first wagon of the game was on scum?
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like I said, it might mean nothing, but at least we gained something from this interaction
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In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
In post 166, JunkoChan wrote:I just checked timers tho, Una was at E-1 for less than 10 mins
You caught this before I could point it out. If anything it's probably more of an argument for scum!Dann as averting the quick hammer is a tasty way to win some cred
But by the same token it's an argument for town!Dann
In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
Wait, what?
> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer
How do these two facts imply Una is town?
if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself
in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early
Huh, I actually hadn't considered that but yes, that's something scum can do.
So
only put people at E-1 if you're ok with them dying
. I will side-eye you if you do it too early
In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
I finally see what you mean. (We're considering a hypothetical in which Una was at E-1 for longer than 10 minutes.) You mean the possibilities are
> 0-1 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, why did it not get hammered?
> 2 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, Una is town.
The issue is you're not accounting for the fact Una's wagon could have failed to get hammered
because she is scum
.
In post 171, JunkoChan wrote:unless both scum members were already on the wagon, which I think I should note for later
The possibility of this strikes me as exceedingly remote right this minute
In post 93, Elements wrote:I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum
And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?
It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?
I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night
It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough
Unless you know it already
Cheeky bunny
It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.
In post 109, innocentvillager wrote:Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far
I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled
This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.
Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?
In post 159, Moonview wrote:Doesn't seem like much has happened since I was here.
I think Una is wrong about Nona - her posts seem fine and I don't see the iioa at all. I think I would call both una and nona >rand town right now. Elements is also fine.
Skeptical of Aisa's 95 - it seems like she's totally misrepresenting what Elements said here. I'd like her to clarify her thought process behind the question.
Buckle up
I wasn't trying to imply that Pavowski's post count mattered in an important way, if that's what you were implying. The post came out worded a bit weirdly.
I noticed what seemed like a possible inconsistency: if you are going to reserve judgment on Nona, why not also reserve judgment on Pavowski, whose posts were not that much less fakeable?
I think I was aware that Elements could have had genuine reasons for those reads. Pavowski and Nona seem to have different characters and it was totally possible that Elements had seen *something* in Pavowski's posting. However, I'm not going to just sit and be like "oh hmm I guess this isn't that scummy after all, maybe there is no need to question it"? The post was there and I decided to ask a question about it.
Alright. I think I just misunderstood you and this won't be fruitful.
In post 175, Aisa wrote:Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, somehow I can't tell if I'm just explicitly saying things everyone else figured out two hours ago lol.
I'll speak for myself; Never assume I figured something out ahead of you
In post 177, JunkoChan wrote:like I said, it might mean nothing, but at least we gained something from this interaction
Yeah I agree it's a really interesting interaction, thank you for pointing it out.
In post 176, JunkoChan wrote:@Aisa true, but what are the odds that the first wagon of the game was on scum?
I have words about this if it becomes relevant again, but I won't go down this rabbit hole for now, lol.
P-edit: Pavowski thank you for your service
haha wabbit hole, I don't mean to either
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In post 189, Dannflor wrote:Moonview, can you describe why exactly you call Una greater than rand town?
Also what does "elements is fine" mean exactly
I think Una is town because her approach on Nona feels a bit sloppy? If she's primarily concerned about surviving the day and looking good I think it's less likely she takes this angle because she will more likely be thinking about how sensible the push appears and optics.
With elements, I like her push on you. Also I'm trying to buddy her because we both believe in Antarctic conspiracies.
In post 153, Una wrote:Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness
That’s not at all what I did. I liked that she was asking Elements to explain his different reads. I didn’t suggest that what she was doing was either “nice” or “helpful”.
In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
Wait, what?
> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer
How do these two facts imply Una is town?
if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself
in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early
Huh, I actually hadn't considered that but yes, that's something scum can do.
So
only put people at E-1 if you're ok with them dying
. I will side-eye you if you do it too early
In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
I finally see what you mean. (We're considering a hypothetical in which Una was at E-1 for longer than 10 minutes.) You mean the possibilities are
> 0-1 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, why did it not get hammered?
> 2 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, Una is town.
The issue is you're not accounting for the fact Una's wagon could have failed to get hammered
because she is scum
.
Junko probably town for doing hammer math. I don't think she fakes or gives it out for free as scum because she seems like she'd enjoy low effort hammery routes to winning imo
Shrug, I mean my interpretation is fallible and maybe I'm misunderstanding the interaction. I don't really think there's anything in her post that looks like iioa and the post you pointed out looked alignment distinguished to me, so my read is based on that.
In post 153, Una wrote:Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness
That’s not at all what I did. I liked that she was asking Elements to explain his different reads. I didn’t suggest that what she was doing was either “nice” or “helpful”.
