Newbie 2105 | Game Over

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Still 0 scum hunting from Elmo by the way.

Hasn't done anything outside of what he was directly asked to contribute.

[Spartan117]

What do you think I'm trying to set up? This isn't a rhetorical question. Please give me your best answer.

And one of two ways for Mafia to make people dead is to push them during the day, is it not?

These are the questions asked in #335.

[Spartan117]

Also 335
If i didn't make a post or talk about them then I consider them town

How is this answering them questions?

[Spartan117]

Still 0 scum hunting from Elmo by the way.

Actually I think youll find he's prepared to hammer scum when they get 1 more vote on them xD

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I can't argue with that.

[Spartan117]

Hasn't done anything outside of what he was directly asked to contribute.

Its true, and for someone who subbed into the game you'd think there would be more purpose. I find it so frustraiting because watch him flip town yet he's not done anything towney to help in the progression of the game just roll over and declare intent to self hammer...

[BlueSnakelet]

VOTE: Elmo

On this note I'll self hammer. To get game state. Also 335
If i didn't make a post or talk about them then I consider them town

If we elim one more townie, the game will be thrown into a 5 player Elo. This is literally the worst case scenario. If you're really town, please take back what you said. Otherwise, I'm calling your bluff.

[Bellaphant]

I know, but it's frustrating that this happened in mine and spartans last scum gave together in the newbie queue, the slot was town but clearly needed elim-ing before elo and we capitalised on that and won.

Elmo, there's still barely anything to read. Please give a readlist.

[Looker]

Gray gif profile pic - I mixed up Elmo and Bellaphant while reading on a previous page. Either way, I'm not a fan of what comes off as a self-hammer bluff. Also, you said BBT was being an armchair QB but that that wasn't scum-indicative. And then you said in 337 that Tapioca's case on you wasn't inaccurate but that you just weren't here for the game despite actively choosing to rep into the slot. It seems contradictory, or at least that there's pieces missing that would make it make sense. What do you feel should be happening right now, and what do you have against BBT and Tapio other than BBT's trying to gamesolve and Tapio's asking for more activity?

[furtiveglance]

VC 2.5

Elmo TeH AzN (2) Tapiocaphobe, BlueBloodedToffee [E-2]

Tapiocaphobe (2) Spartan117, Bellaphant [E-2]

Not Voting (3) BlueSnakelet, Looker, Elmo TeH AzN

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-25 19:57:39)

[BlueSnakelet]

7 and a half hours left. I doubt that we're goint to get anything useful out of Elmo now.

VOTE: Elmo, this is E-1.

[Spartan117]

7 and a half hours left. I doubt that we're goint to get anything useful out of Elmo now.

VOTE: Elmo, this is E-1.

Its just so frustraiting as he is rolling over which is great if he's scum albeit sucky for his partner, but if they are town it gives us nothing to go off as far as reads go, for who they think is scum etc.

At this point I will declare intent to hammer, so Elmo if you can please declare your role and we can go from there.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I know, but it's frustrating that this happened in mine and spartans last scum gave together in the newbie queue, the slot was town but clearly needed elim-ing before elo and we capitalised on that and won.

Elmo, there's still barely anything to read. Please give a readlist.

Ill be honest this slot felt like it was just going to be a dead spot. You want a readlist when I said I wasn't going to. I don't see the point of it. I know this whole lynch is bad and to be fair I'm not going to let this day end without some information going around. After the game is over we can talk about things and what was done wrong but like I said earlier I hate game solves on day 2 when there wasn't and isn't a lot of information to go off of.


As far as claming it really does no good as its not going to do anything and a person in my state would claim VT. Its funny how this works out and proving the point. This lynch feels like nothing more then just eliminate someone whos really not doing anything because we can't take them into a mylo. Which is where this game is heading.

I will say this good luck to town.

[Spartan117]

Ill be honest this slot felt like it was just going to be a dead spot. You want a readlist when I said I wasn't going to. I don't see the point of it. I know this whole lynch is bad and to be fair I'm not going to let this day end without some information going around. After the game is over we can talk about things and what was done wrong but like I said earlier I hate game solves on day 2 when there wasn't and isn't a lot of information to go off of.

The slot you subbed into was a clean slate and we would have treated it as such if you had been active and provided meaningful content.
while you may not see the point in a read list, it's not for you it's for us, after we see your flip it helps us see who you was reading what given your alignment, resistance to provide one just makes you look like you are trying to hide potential post flip associations to your scum partner.

You say your not gonna let this day end without some info going around but you've been providing empty promises of content for days.

One person saying their opinion on who the scum is isn't a game solve, BBT took their vote off you and put it on Bella so you had ample breathing space to investigate and scum hunt. Given the number of pages there is a lot of information for you to investigate.

[Bellaphant]

Intent to hammer before bed time (about three hours)

[Spartan117]

As far as claming it really does no good as its not going to do anything and a person in my state would claim VT. Its funny how this works out and proving the point. This lynch feels like nothing more then just eliminate someone whos really not doing anything because we can't take them into a mylo. Which is where this game is heading.

Of course claiming is good, it's important for you to do when someone details intent to hammer, if you are town you would do it, but given your resistance again it very much makes you look like scum. A town PR would claim in this position to give themselves a chance for the town to eliminate scum instead, even if the scum team kills them in the night they are preventing a guarenteed mis-elim in the day vote, we don't want to flip you and see you are a town PR think I would want some time away for a while if that was the case.

Claiming PR again doesn't mean your town but it actually gives us a decision to make if you are genuine town PR or scum trying to save their skin and trying to out a counter claim. At the moment it doesn't really feel like a decision..

[Spartan117]

feels like nothing more then just eliminate someone whos really not doing anything

That is exactly what this is, you have not attempted to scum hunt and only contributed when prompted to, multiple people have pleaded with you to put effort into this with no result.

[Spartan117]

Intent to hammer before bed time (about three hours)

Its alright I can hammer him if you need to sleep, he has made albeit another promise for content saying he's not gonna let the day end without some I fo going around, so if there is any chance of that I would like to see it.

[Spartan117]

a person in my state would claim VT

Can we get confirmation please, is this your actual claim?

[Spartan117]

Is anyone around or are we just going to night 2?

[Looker]

I'm here but I won't be around at deadline this time, though. Not that it matters, my questions were ignored so it's whatever.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm around but not sure what to do.

If Elmo is town then this is probably the easiest game scum will ever have.

[Looker]

They didn't even vote

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I'm around but not sure what to do.

If Elmo is town then this is probably the easiest game scum will ever have.

Highly unlikely. It depends do you have faith in town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I thought you were going to self hammer?