Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

ISO · Post Post #5275 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:57 am

Big scum backtrack

Scarfmanship · Post Post #5276 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:57 am

toog counterwagon working 2018 free download???

Firebringer · Post Post #5277 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:58 am

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?

Past Present Future · Post Post #5278 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:04 am

In post 5257, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 5256, Scarfmanship wrote:please don't let this be a game where we keep killing cultists but our wincon is to kill the recruiter
It definitely isn't. Cults are the flavour name for the scumteams.

Why do you think there's no recruiter?

~Titus

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #5279 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:13 am

In post 5273, T-Bone wrote:My preference is finally resolving Mastina/meuh tbh. But absent that Toog is my gut instinct.

Why does mastina slot need to be resolved?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #5280 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:13 am

In post 5277, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?

What's up FB? Have you been reading along?

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow · Post Post #5281 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:17 am

In post 5271, T-Bone wrote:New reads list, haven't sorted this out in a bit. I am left with a PoE of like 5 when I remove town reads and one-scum immunities. I am not happy with this and it would make me feel better if those with one scum immunities were just on the other scumteam. If a town read is wrong then it's probably DDS or FB.

Spoiler: Reads 2.0
Town lean
Radical Rat
Enchant
Firebringer
DDS
Scarf

One-Scum but null
Math
PPF

Null lean
Furtive
CSF

Scum/PoE lean
Toog
Ydrasse
Meuh

I'm very interested in your Firebringer townread

Firebringer · Post Post #5282 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:18 am

In post 5280, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5277, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?
What's up FB? Have you been reading along?

Not much, just about to heat up some thanksgiving leftovers.
Ive only been following along since i replaced in. Not gonna read prior to that.

Where u and ur head at right now?

Firebringer · Post Post #5283 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:20 am

In post 5281, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
In post 5271, T-Bone wrote:New reads list, haven't sorted this out in a bit. I am left with a PoE of like 5 when I remove town reads and one-scum immunities. I am not happy with this and it would make me feel better if those with one scum immunities were just on the other scumteam. If a town read is wrong then it's probably DDS or FB.

Spoiler: Reads 2.0
Town lean
Radical Rat
Enchant
Firebringer
DDS
Scarf

One-Scum but null
Math
PPF

Null lean
Furtive
CSF

Scum/PoE lean
Toog
Ydrasse
Meuh
I'm very interested in your Firebringer townread

i am as well, but i don't think it will develop my read of T-Bone no matter what response he gave.

ISO · Post Post #5284 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:29 am

I had town read his predecessor and he hasn't done anything to change it. FB is just here, it's whatever.

ISO · Post Post #5285 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:31 am

In post 5279, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5273, T-Bone wrote:My preference is finally resolving Mastina/meuh tbh. But absent that Toog is my gut instinct.
Why does mastina slot need to be resolved?

Because it is still the scummiest slot in the game and meuh hasn't done anything for me that would change it. I want meuh eliminated because I think meuh inherited a scum slot.

furtiveglance · Post Post #5286 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:55 am

In post 5275, T-Bone wrote:Big scum backtrack

Who is this aimed at

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #5287 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:03 am

In post 5282, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5280, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5277, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?
What's up FB? Have you been reading along?
Not much, just about to heat up some thanksgiving leftovers.
Ive only been following along since i replaced in. Not gonna read prior to that.

Where u and ur head at right now?

Idk I don't have much confidence in my reads. There's like 5 people who are checked out of the game that it makes it difficult to say with confidence if they're town or scum. I'd guess furtive - whose reason for voting mastina yesterday seemed like bs - and Enchant since Enchant is not that bad at mech and should have known to resolve MMR

Scarf's 5263 pings me the wrong way - he states a good reason to vote furtive but then doesn't?

T-Bone's mastina scumread and sudden change on PPF is interesting. I probably still wouldn't lim there today, because Rat and T-Bone are basically verifying each other's claims, but something to think about

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #5288 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:04 am

In post 5285, T-Bone wrote:
In post 5279, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5273, T-Bone wrote:My preference is finally resolving Mastina/meuh tbh. But absent that Toog is my gut instinct.
Why does mastina slot need to be resolved?
Because it is still the scummiest slot in the game and meuh hasn't done anything for me that would change it. I want meuh eliminated because I think meuh inherited a scum slot.

I'm claiming to have seen someone (likely Scum) target Meuh last night. Does that change the read?

furtiveglance · Post Post #5289 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:07 pm

In post 5287, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5282, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5280, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5277, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
Hi cat, how u doing?
What's up FB? Have you been reading along?
Not much, just about to heat up some thanksgiving leftovers.
Ive only been following along since i replaced in. Not gonna read prior to that.

Where u and ur head at right now?
Idk I don't have much confidence in my reads. There's like 5 people who are checked out of the game that it makes it difficult to say with confidence if they're town or scum. I'd guess furtive - whose reason for voting mastina yesterday seemed like bs - and Enchant since Enchant is not that bad at mech and should have known to resolve MMR

Scarf's 5263 pings me the wrong way - he states a good reason to vote furtive but then doesn't?

T-Bone's mastina scumread and sudden change on PPF is interesting. I probably still wouldn't lim there today, because Rat and T-Bone are basically verifying each other's claims, but something to think about

My fake progression on mastina was really good I thought D:

Seriously CSF, what are you doing? In that other Mini Normal you actually had good reads.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #5290 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:12 pm

Do you think I should be town reading you here? Why?

furtiveglance · Post Post #5291 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:16 pm

In post 5290, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Do you think I should be town reading you here? Why?

The way I see myself, to put it slightly metaphorically:

In the typical game of mafia, Mafia play a certain way i.e. avoiding attention and pocketing Town. I am doing the opposite, pushing several slots quite openly and making enemies as a result. Therefore you should be seeing me as the Example Town, with more passive slots who are doing less pushing taking the place of the Example Mafia.

Radical Rat · Post Post #5292 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:32 pm

Sorry, there was Thanksgiving and now I'm sick so my head is really not in the game right now.

I have not read, but I did check the votecount, and near the votecount was a very peculiar post from scarf...

Radical Rat · Post Post #5293 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:33 pm

In post 5263, Scarfmanship wrote:VOTE: enchant

so the feeling i have about furitive is i feel bad for them, which is a feeling i usually only get about mafia, so i hope you guys vote out furitive without me, but if you don't enchant is ok too.

Lunatics (derogatory term for lunar mafia), PPF is now your problem.

Why would you not just... Vote furtive in this case?

Scarfmanship · Post Post #5294 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:42 pm

No one is scumreading me, so I can afford to be off wagon if furitive has a scumflip. It's a bit selfish, but more information for me.

Also I prefer toogeloo because I also have the same feeling with PPF where I see where furitive /could/ be town, like how I saw how PPF /could/ be town. Toogeloo is either scum based on their bad actions yesterday or completely useless town, so I am happier getting them out.

furtiveglance · Post Post #5295 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:50 pm

In post 5294, Scarfmanship wrote:No one is scumreading me, so I can afford to be off wagon if furitive has a scumflip. It's a bit selfish, but more information for me.

Also I prefer toogeloo because I also have the same feeling with PPF where I see where furitive /could/ be town, like how I saw how PPF /could/ be town. Toogeloo is either scum based on their bad actions yesterday or completely useless town, so I am happier getting them out.

As I said before happy to vote Toogeloo. Whichever wagon looks like going through

ISO · Post Post #5296 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:02 pm

In post 5288, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5285, T-Bone wrote:
In post 5279, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5273, T-Bone wrote:My preference is finally resolving Mastina/meuh tbh. But absent that Toog is my gut instinct.
Why does mastina slot need to be resolved?
Because it is still the scummiest slot in the game and meuh hasn't done anything for me that would change it. I want meuh eliminated because I think meuh inherited a scum slot.
I'm claiming to have seen someone (likely Scum) target Meuh last night. Does that change the read?

No, because your predecessor claimed that you couldn't do anything to confirm that slot after faking saying they could.

ISO · Post Post #5297 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:04 pm

I'll be honest I don't know what your slot can and cannot do.

MathBlade · Post Post #5298 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:32 pm

VOTE: Unvote

Hey hey a game exists now.

*proceeds to lurk*

Radical Rat · Post Post #5299 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:51 pm

In post 5294, Scarfmanship wrote:No one is scumreading me, so I can afford to be off wagon if furitive has a scumflip. It's a bit selfish, but more information for me.

Also I prefer toogeloo because I also have the same feeling with PPF where I see where furitive /could/ be town, like how I saw how PPF /could/ be town. Toogeloo is either scum based on their bad actions yesterday or completely useless town, so I am happier getting them out.

This logic is really really weird. So weird I have no idea how to read it. Maybe once my headache goes away I'll have some insight on it...

For now I'm just going to follow my heart.
VOTE: furtiveglance

I won't pretend to have reasons beyond the weirdness around mastina yesterday, because I don't have any, but this is what feels right.

PPF still makes a lot of sense as scum in what remains of my mind in my ailing state, but I have to admit that their unshakable drive to deny the reality of MMR's behavior/flip sounds genuine. I'd expect scum to treat it as a guilty and work around that, rather than stubbornly insist a guilty was impossible when it clearly was possible. Not sure what to make of it, takes more brain than I have available right now.