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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:28 pm

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In post 4446, Something_Smart wrote:You think he got a guilty with the shot that Datisi recharged him with?
I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:42 pm

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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:50 pm

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In post 4450, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
Well, what do you think the timing was on Datisi's ability? Do you think it resolved at the start of the night?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:01 pm

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In post 4450, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4446, Something_Smart wrote:You think he got a guilty with the shot that Datisi recharged him with?
I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
The first part isn't unreasonable imo.
Though, I feel like S_S is making a good point that you're assuming Datisi's action resolves before Bear's and allows for him to immediately get another shot upon recharge.
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:46 pm

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In post 4452, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4450, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
Well, what do you think the timing was on Datisi's ability? Do you think it resolved at the start of the night?
I think that’s pretty clearly what I thought.
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:47 pm

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In post 4453, Freedom wrote:
In post 4450, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4446, Something_Smart wrote:You think he got a guilty with the shot that Datisi recharged him with?
I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
The first part isn't unreasonable imo.
Though, I feel like S_S is making a good point that you're assuming Datisi's action resolves before Bear's and allows for him to immediately get another shot upon recharge.
You realize you just contradicted yourself? Right?
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:50 pm

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In post 4455, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4453, Freedom wrote:
In post 4450, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4446, Something_Smart wrote:You think he got a guilty with the shot that Datisi recharged him with?
I mean - prs in this game are already gated (sometimes doubly so!) so I don’t see how that was unreasonable to think but ok.
The first part isn't unreasonable imo.
Though, I feel like S_S is making a good point that you're assuming Datisi's action resolves before Bear's and allows for him to immediately get another shot upon recharge.
You realize you just contradicted yourself? Right?
I don't see it.
I think that it isn't unreasonable that you think PRs are gated but I don't think the same for the rest.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:53 pm

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…PRs being gated is a fact….
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:55 pm

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Which is why I'm trying to say that apart from the facts, your theory seems odd to me.
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:56 pm

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Like a recharger on Kitty’s role is a quadruple gated role that would basically make no sense.

But whatever. Datisi said that’s not how it works so I can maybe yell at the reviewers after the full setup is known.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:56 pm

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In post 4458, Freedom wrote:Which is why I'm trying to say that apart from the facts, your theory seems odd to me.
Not if you actually have a brain but ok.
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:21 pm

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In post 4454, PenguinPower wrote:I think that’s pretty clearly what I thought.
How could that happen when Datisi wasn't granted the warrior ceremony until the start of the night? Did you think he pre-submitted an action just in case he was chosen?
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:24 pm

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Oh hello large theme game where I don’t know the mechanics and stuff like that happens?
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:30 pm

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Like…leader votes locked at EOD…ascension….recharge power happens is not unreasonable.

I find the hard pushback without full knowledge to be unreasonable tbh.
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:33 pm

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I mean, I know I'm not guiltied. So I have that piece of info.

But also, I never said this was impossible. I obviously implied that I thought it was unlikely, but I just wanted to know how/why you thought this could have gone down.

To me, it seems very weird that an action with a target would take place instantaneously; like, would the mod wait for the recharger to submit their action before starting the night? Large theme with weird mechanics or not, usually actions are submitted during a time period instead of becoming available and instantly resolving.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:57 pm

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In post 4428, Something_Smart wrote:If it's a reaction test, better to just outright state it's a guilty. Otherwise, please outright state it isn't.
Thought you may have been though.

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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:59 pm

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Large theme mechanics are literally here to defy normal and opens. Soooo.

I’m ready to move on from this discussion.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:59 pm

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Lest you feel this is something I would argue as scum for…reasons.
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:29 pm

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Well, we have a few miseliminations to go through,
I don't particularly find S_S crucial.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 4442, Freedom wrote:Ceph.
What is your opinion of Bear's vote on S_S?
i was just waiting for a clarification. i read it as probably a reaction test but wasn't saying so for obvious reasons, but now it's out there so w/e
In post 4443, Freedom wrote:Also, what is your opinion of Penguin's ?
It feels a bit odd that his first assumption was that Bear had a guilty when Bear never said that.
In opposition, when Bear pushed Math, he mentioned Math being a guilty.
i figured he was playing along with the reaction test but if he did think it was a guilty for some reason i would not be terribly fussed about it
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:51 pm

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In post 4464, Something_Smart wrote:To me, it seems very weird that an action with a target would take place instantaneously; like, would the mod wait for the recharger to submit their action before starting the night? Large theme with weird mechanics or not, usually actions are submitted during a time period instead of becoming available and instantly resolving.
is there scum motivation for this? if not, then who cares?
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:53 pm

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In post 4465, PenguinPower wrote:Thought you may have been though.
I know you thought that (or are pretending as such), that's why I asked Bear to clarify.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:54 pm

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In post 4470, Cephrir wrote:is there scum motivation for this? if not, then who cares?
scum motivation for what, PP acting like he thought it was a guilty? absolutely, I can see him hoping people rush a wagon on me before Bear can come in and clarify, like they did the last few days.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:56 pm

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I'm just going to ignore the other explanations to know why you would like to know if there was a real guilty on you.

S_S quick useless question,
if you were scum here would you be salty at the set up?
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:03 pm

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Wait if Datisi knew that he'd have to wait a day and the protection is dead, why was he relieved that they chose correctly?
Because he thought people would give him a hard time if his target died?
Eh. Yeah, that seems about right it also forces the scum team to kill him this night phase, which is fine.

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