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[innocentvillager]

How did you guys miss the IC post it was right there

I didn't see it
And hello! Been a while

Hello how’s your foot? Mines still fucked

[innocentvillager]

My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.

Scoliosis is obviously town and i'm starting to scumread you

Obviously on page 3 is a strong conviction why so obvious?

[innocentvillager]

The guy has 3 posts

[innocentvillager]

@val why is the vote a scumclaim ?

Not the vote - the post. It is an attempt at a fake dumb tell. Are you trying to get a read on the author of post 6 from the RVS posting here?

I say it's fake rather than genuine, as KT seems to suggest, because of KTs vote/unvote. Scoliosis trying to draw 3 reads (and two scum ones at that) from the RVS shit posting that went on before post 20 screams 'try harding', but if you a seriously try harding, do you serious think KT moving their vote around is something less AI than two "Hi <vote>" posts, and not bother looking into that?

We know KT was shit posting because Toto is IC, but Scoliosis is trying to dumb tell they didn't notice and need to give a read on post 6 - its internally inconsistent.

I actually didnt notice the IC post until now.

I agree that all of scoliosis' conclusions are based on very little, but I think the fact that they *tried* to create content at this stage is very townie - it moves the game out of RVS, and I find that very +town

I don't think the conclusions are meant to be very *firm* or like taken as fact, but rather trying to move the game along by throwing out *some* sort of statement and seeing what happens

That being said, i like this post from you
VOTE: herta

Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: Herat sure

[skitter30]

How did you guys miss the IC post it was right there

I didn't see it
And hello! Been a while

Hello how’s your foot? Mines still fucked

Oh dear >.> i'm sorry to hear that
mine was p painful to walk on for a few months but has been all healed for a while now

[skitter30]

Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time

Yes, i think that's very townie
+ you can tell he's thinking abt the game and trying to understand how other people are trying to solve it (or not)

Do you think he's scummy or just don't particularly believe he's townie ?

[innocentvillager]

Good to hear you're healed!

The thing that stuck out to me (as you can see by my posts) is the stated strength of your read relative to what I can see as the reasoning behind it. It's hard for me to be "obviously town" on someone on page 3 after 3 posts so when a reputable player makes a read like that it is certainly feels worth investigating both for sorting you and them.

Personally, I have felt that "trying to get game going in RVS" =/= obviously town - it feels too easy for it be a legitimate towntell but more importantly I've seen scum do it, so it's hard for me to estimate the true frequency at which it happens. Your brief addendum to that actually feels like more convincing of a reason.

[innocentvillager]

Yknow skitter I might actually be vibing with your Scoliosis take though I'm definitely not at obviously town yet.

[innocentvillager]

Can't tell if I'm just confbiased because I want to believe I've made any remote progress in my reads though. I feel like regardless of your alignment Scoliosis is +town here though.

[Herta]

That's all I got

If you make a statement like 'by meta i don't think kitty's scum', i would expect you to be able to elaborate a bit more on it

Why did you say that you don't think he's scum?

You

expect

that of me? Let's see here. You didn't ask the question, Toto did. I don't give much mind to what you demand wrt why I meta read Kitty town right now. Do you have reason to disbelieve me? If so lay it out. Otherwise if you're that curious why don't you dig up some Kitty games and take a spin? God knows I'm not going to do it for you.

Or you can rephrase your question because you come off pretty aggro on that and maybe I'll be more amenable to give you a better answer.

Why did you ask me what I thought of you voting me? I haven't seen a follow-up to that yet and it seemed kinda important to you at the time?

[innocentvillager]

I'm here for the Herta sass

[innocentvillager]

Has Herta ever pissed people off like this as scum? Genuine question for any Herta meta stans out there

[Herta]

Sup town!

Val prob town or very good maf

VOTE: church

My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.

Scoliosis is obviously town and i'm starting to scumread you

By meta I don't think kitty's scum.

Tell us more

Do you have any comments on posts between 47 and 70 other than the post immediately before your 70?

[innocentvillager]

Okay I'll stop being an annoying fuck and hyperposting nonsense this was fun while it lasted

[Herta]

Sup town!

Val prob town or very good maf

VOTE: church

My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.

Scoliosis is obviously town and i'm starting to scumread you

By meta I don't think kitty's scum.

Tell us more

Do you have any comments on posts between 47 and 70 other than the post immediately before your 70?

And why did you vote church anyway.

[skitter30]

@herta i was going to ask the exact question but i continued reading and saw toto did and didnt see a point in asking it twice

But when you didnt really explain when toto asked you (71) i decided to ask 74

Usually when someone says something like 'i don't think x is scum by meya' i expect them to (be able to) follow up that statement with a sentence or two of an explanation explaining their reasoning and how they got to that conclusion

You've made the claim, the onus is on you to back it up, not on me to start reading old kitty games

I don't have any particular reason to disbelieve that statement, but i don't have any reason to believe it either, and i want to know why you made it

And i asked cuz i was curious if you had any thoughts on it

[skitter30]

Can't tell if I'm just confbiased because I want to believe I've made any remote progress in my reads though. I feel like regardless of your alignment Scoliosis is +town here though.

Indeed
They're one of the only townreads i've got so far

[Herta]

@herta i was going to ask the exact question but i continued reading and saw toto did and didnt see a point in asking it twice

But when you didnt really explain when toto asked you (71) i decided to ask 74

Usually when someone says something like 'i don't think x is scum by meya' i expect them to (be able to) follow up that statement with a sentence or two of an explanation explaining their reasoning and how they got to that conclusion

You've made the claim, the onus is on you to back it up, not on me to start reading old kitty games

I don't have any particular reason to disbelieve that statement, but i don't have any reason to believe it either, and i want to know why you made it

And i asked cuz i was curious if you had any thoughts on it

Fair enough. Every game I've played with kitty that he's been reasonably engaged and stick-to-his-guns as in going deep on a hunch and apparent genuine curiosity he's been town. There's one difference but I'm going to sit on that right now and let it develop to help my read because I'm not sure about an aspect of it.

[Herta]

@herta i was going to ask the exact question but i continued reading and saw toto did and didnt see a point in asking it twice

But when you didnt really explain when toto asked you (71) i decided to ask 74

Usually when someone says something like 'i don't think x is scum by meya' i expect them to (be able to) follow up that statement with a sentence or two of an explanation explaining their reasoning and how they got to that conclusion

You've made the claim, the onus is on you to back it up, not on me to start reading old kitty games

I don't have any particular reason to disbelieve that statement, but i don't have any reason to believe it either, and i want to know why you made it

And i asked cuz i was curious if you had any thoughts on it

Fair enough. Every game I've played with kitty that he's been reasonably engaged and stick-to-his-guns as in going deep on a hunch and apparent genuine curiosity he's been town. There's one difference but I'm going to sit on that right now and let it develop to help my read because I'm not sure about an aspect of it.

Oh and it's a bit early to say he's gone deep but the signs are there.

[Herta]

Why did you ask me what I thought of you voting me? I haven't seen a follow-up to that yet and it seemed kinda important to you at the time?

When you can.

[Toto]

Do you have any comments on posts between 47 and 70 other than the post immediately before your 70?

Not really, I figured as conftown I don't bring a lot of value to the conversation other than my own flawed reads.

[Toto]

And why did you vote church anyway.

Why else, he sounded scummy, why are you asking me?

[KittyTacky]

Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time

Yes, i think that's very townie
+ you can tell he's thinking abt the game and trying to understand how other people are trying to solve it (or not)

Do you think he's scummy or just don't particularly believe he's townie ?

I just felt like on a re-read his arguments felt like bad faith pushes.

[KittyTacky]

Fairly easy to fake this "towntell" as scum imo.