Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[innocentvillager]

I agree with unwnd that I find it hard to believe skitter is readable at this point which is why I’m curious on why Dann believes otherwise

[innocentvillager]

I feel like the answer to Herta’a outburst really could be helped by basic meta knowledge so if anyone has that please I’m calling out now

It could be as simple as “they did it once as scum, move on it’s not towny” or “they’ve done it 5 times and they were town in all of them, they’re town”

[unwnd]

IV is in jungle rn and he's raring up to flank the enemy team

[skitter30]

I think it’s fine if you’re actually getting wagoned

The way you phrased it made it seemed like you were throwing shade in a scummy way not a “townies should act better” way

Not meant to be shade, more - i don't see why we're wagoning the slot, this is the one thing i don't like but that isn't enuf to call them scummy imo if that makes sense

[skitter30]

Your posts (to me) don't really seem telling as they're just pretty standard? You do things I'd expect, but I've seen games like that one where you really just fooled the fucking pants off everyone like your plant hydra

Just exercising caution

Fair enuf

[skitter30]

I don't think i'm readable at this point

[Ydrasse]

skitter towm

[Freedom]

I think skitter is towny and I think her opinion on herta makes sense from the position of being on the other side of the aggression

I don't feel super committed to either of these reads but those are my vibes atm

Can you explain your TR on skitter?

[Val89]

Like ig i'm kinda confused how kittytacky can start off liking 20 and then move to disliking it when other people find it scummy without scoliosis posting anything in between

1. They didnt post again at all tho, why are u treating that like they were ignoring you?

I think it's kinda weird to come to a totally different conclusion abt the same post at that point in the game when the pkayer in question hadnt posted anything at all in between

This has been objectively wrong on each occasion you've said it previously; and it remains wrong; but just to be clear - you are claiming you posted these in the belief that Scoliosis hasn't posted anyone of consequence since #20; and the "obviously town" read you gave yesterday was based entirely on post 20, and you didn't see that was the source of the church wagon you said you disliked?

[Toto]

At this point I'm ok with Val/Ger/Ydra as the Elimination target today.

I think it is fair to infer unwind is claiming voteless at least for D1. Voteless is generally a town role but they are scummy as hell to so don't mind Eliminating them either.

[unwnd]

Uhh what I'm not voteless I just haven't decided yet lmao

[Freedom]

At this point I'm ok with Val/Ger/Ydra as the Elimination target today.

I think it is fair to infer unwind is claiming voteless at least for D1. Voteless is generally a town role but they are scummy as hell to so don't mind Eliminating them either.

Voteless isn't Normal though.

[skitter30]

This has been objectively wrong on each occasion you've said it previously; and it remains wrong; but just to be clear - you are claiming you posted these in the belief that Scoliosis hasn't posted anyone of consequence since #20; and the "obviously town" read you gave yesterday was based entirely on post 20, and you didn't see that was the source of the church wagon you said you disliked?

I can think he's town without supporting his wagon
What's 'objectively wrong' ?

[innocentvillager]

skitter towm

Ahhh y

These skitter townreads are making me nervous

[innocentvillager]

IV is in jungle rn and he's raring up to flank the enemy team

This is a lot of pressure

[unwnd]

It's OK it's not even midmatch right now still in farming phase

[Val89]

What's 'objectively wrong' ?

This:

i don't get how he lost the initial townread so fast, especially since it partially seems based on scoliosis 'not ressponding to kittytacky's question'

when he hasnt posted at all since 20

Like ig i'm kinda confused how kittytacky can start off liking 20 and then move to disliking it when other people find it scummy

without scoliosis posting anything in between

1.

They didnt post again at a

ll tho, why are u treating that like they were ignoring you?

I think it's kinda weird to come to a totally different conclusion abt the same post at that point in the game when

the pkayer in question hadnt posted anything at all in between

I agree you can find someone town and not support a wagon they start, but if you actually believe what you are saying here, have you read #40/41 or not?

[Val89]

Correction: 41 and 42.

[skitter30]

I ... don't know what i was thinking, i read all of those posts but for some reason thought 41 42 happened right after 20 and before 24

I think i had iso'd both and somehow conflated post numbers, but that's my bad

I feel better abt kitty then

[Ydrasse]

skitter towm

Ahhh y

These skitter townreads are making me nervous

I was being silly after she said she was unreadable i don’t feel strongly one way or the other

[Val89]

I ... don't know what i was thinking

No, me neither.

I thought you hadn't seen it; and your "obviously town" read was even more overblown then I originally thought it was, and you were handing those reads out without even paying attention to even a limited ISO; or you had seen it and were pushing on KT in bad faith. I don't know what I am supposed to make of your answer that you did see it but have made some sort of error as to the order it was posted.

I understand in general how a desire to generate content can be townie, but I am struggling to see how #20 can result from a genuine thought process. Scoliosis tells me they hope to answer those questions today (although I would have preferred them just be answered rather than told they will) and I'll see if I can get there; but if you think I am missing some obvious and want to posit why #17 and/or #19 could (at least initially) draw a scumread that doesn't equally apply to #7 or #12; or why (assuming your hypothesis about the IC being easy to miss is correct) there is anything different about the lack of vote in #6 with #8 or #18, I am listening.

Scoliosis is the only one who can tell us in the end, but I would feel a lot better about you if you could convince me at least

some

thought has gone into that content rather than declaring someone "obviously town" on the basis they posted

something

without stopping to see if that something makes sense.

[Val89]

I mean, the very fact you consider yourself to be unreadable at this point but considered Scoliosis to be not only readable, but obviously of one alignment is enough to give me serious pause about the genuineness of that read.

Double that when you ask me to believe you were actually trying to sort Kitty but failed to catch your own error.

[innocentvillager]

I find it very interesting that Val is taking my earlier line of questioning and 10x ramming it up skitters ass

[innocentvillager]

skitter towm

Ahhh y

These skitter townreads are making me nervous

I was being silly after she said she was unreadable i don’t feel strongly one way or the other

I’m dumb thnank you

[Ydrasse]

tbf some people are open books and some take like a phd and three days to have a hint of alignment