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Post Post #3150 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:49 am

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I ain't doing it and I'm pretty sure it would be game throwing for me to do it as either alignment.
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Post Post #3151 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:50 am

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In post 3148, Titus wrote:The plothole is, what incentive does Shea have to comply?
I think Shea can understand this is the best longterm plan for a town win.

if you see a problem with that Shea, let us know. I think you'd have to confirm when you appoint a new heir though.

pedit -- how the fuck is it game throwing? It's exploiting the mechanics for greater town power.
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Post Post #3152 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:50 am

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Okay, then im scum. I explained all my reasons and u disagree and can't come to my same conclusions. Are we done here?
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Post Post #3153 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:50 am

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as much as I hate to say it, I feel like it's better to just put confirmed town in that slot than try to do weird big brained plays that I'm sure Shea doesn't want to play along with anyway
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Post Post #3154 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:50 am

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Me causing myself, the only player I know for sure to be town, to be eliminated, is game throwing.
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Post Post #3155 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:51 am

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Shea, from his perspective, knows he's town. Therefore, setting up a total overthrow necessarily results in a town death. It also limits his control.
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Post Post #3156 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:52 am

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In post 3154, Thestatusquo wrote:Me causing myself, the only player I know for sure to be town, to be eliminated, is game throwing.
no it's not. Sometimes, getting eliminated as town is the right play to win.

If you're playing magic, you never sacrifice a card to win a match? Like, this is not galaxy brain play here.
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Post Post #3157 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:54 am

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can we not have an argument for pages about correct way to play the game for maximum town benefit or what is best play.
Its literally pointless and doesn't help solving.
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Post Post #3158 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:04 am

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VOTE: Roden
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Post Post #3159 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:05 am

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In post 3136, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3104, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3099, VP Baltar wrote:Ace strategy I kept in my pocket last night. So scum couldn't plot.

I think we lim Johnny today, who is LOL OBV SCUM. I assume Shea must install an heir immediately? If so, we have him put our second most likely suspect into that slot and then the Kingsguard overthrows tonight so we disperse power again on the council and kill a potential scum slot.

Scum's plan is very clearly to condense and eliminate PRs, based on the two NKs so far.
You do know that TSQ has to sacrifice for this to happen right?
Yes, I'm fine with that.
I’m saying that your plan needs TSQ’s input in two different places, so I suggest you discuss with them.
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Post Post #3160 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:06 am

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In post 3157, Firebringer wrote:can we not have an argument for pages about correct way to play the game for maximum town benefit or what is best play.
Its literally pointless and doesn't help solving.
An expected position from the person who wasted PR actions for ????
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@VP, @Datisi, @GuiltyLion, @Titus, I’m fine with a Johnny execution, and I will most definitely vote there if needed. I’m finding the argument that Rhaenyra wouldn’t try so strongly to put Town they seem to be solid as King to the point where they rage quit the game somewhat persuasive.
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Post Post #3162 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:10 am

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^they see to be solid*
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Post Post #3163 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:11 am

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Like it’s not a ridiculous argument.
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Can someone help me remotivate into this game? This is a large ask because I don't exactly know how I'm supposed to do that for myself, so I don't know how I'm expected to have someone else able to know.

But I'm very open to suggestions.
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Post Post #3165 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:19 am

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In post 3164, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can someone help me remotivate into this game? This is a large ask because I don't exactly know how I'm supposed to do that for myself, so I don't know how I'm expected to have someone else able to know.

But I'm very open to suggestions.
We have a decent amount of information now. You can probably analyze the wagon against GuiltyLion when it was tied with DW for an avenue of pursuit to figuring out the next Scum. I don’t know that defending or attacking DW super strongly is definitive either way, because Mathblade’s argument that they were probably left behind after a certain point (made in a PT) and probably not strongly defended or hard bussed after a certain point to be somewhat persuasive. So that’s what I would do - look amongst the biggest pushers against GL at that stage in the game. If that doesn’t persuade you, I would try and figure out if how the mechanics have played out (and where the NKs have landed) says anything about the presence of Scum on the Council. If the Scum are taking shots hoping to concentrate power there, then they might have a chance if otherwise they’re being left behind.
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Post Post #3166 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:20 am

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^I’m finding Mathblade’s argument
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Post Post #3167 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:21 am

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I have {Roden, Enchant, Johnny} as good slots to execute next. If anyone can describe in detail why one of them is say Town, then maybe that helps us avoid an mis-execution.
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Post Post #3168 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:21 am

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In post 3164, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can someone help me remotivate into this game? This is a large ask because I don't exactly know how I'm supposed to do that for myself, so I don't know how I'm expected to have someone else able to know.

But I'm very open to suggestions.
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Post Post #3169 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:22 am

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In post 3160, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3157, Firebringer wrote:can we not have an argument for pages about correct way to play the game for maximum town benefit or what is best play.
Its literally pointless and doesn't help solving.
An expected position from the person who wasted PR actions for ????
Wait till you hear what i plan to do next.
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Post Post #3170 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:23 am

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So far, the first night there were no suggestions to overthrow the King. There was frustration, but no one seriously considered it in the Kingsguard. Both Titus and UNOwen (particularly the latter) argued more forcefully for an overthrow last night. What do you all make of that?
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Post Post #3171 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:28 am

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In post 3168, Titus wrote:
In post 3164, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can someone help me remotivate into this game? This is a large ask because I don't exactly know how I'm supposed to do that for myself, so I don't know how I'm expected to have someone else able to know.

But I'm very open to suggestions.
Let's try this. LLD we're a pair of washed up has beens.
Is.... this supposed to motivate me via frustration to prove you wrong?

I admit, there are members of my system itching from this comment. I, unfortunately, am new and not one of them.

Fiadh, at your service... well, perhaps not literally. Plurality is an interesting little bugger. Adaptive as hell to what you need. Turns out, our system cares a lot too much about what people think of us who we barely know or care about. Lot of shame issues compounded with that. Not helped by the fact I haven't even existed for a full week yet.

But me? I couldn't give less of a fuck what people who aren't my famille think. It's a new step towards a healthier... us.

So, I'm out here looking for... something to drive me that isn't the constant fear of judgement and otherism my former parents so graciously deigned to us, Cursed is perhaps a better word.
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Post Post #3172 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:32 am

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Andre tries to sell that i protected dwlee from elim

While i never did it

Like ???
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Post Post #3173 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:36 am

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In post 3172, Enchant wrote:Andre tries to sell that i protected dwlee from elim

While i never did it

Like ???
In your opinion, what did you do at end of day 2 then? What was your motive and what did you do to accomplish it?
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Post Post #3174 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:37 am

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In post 3173, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3172, Enchant wrote:Andre tries to sell that i protected dwlee from elim

While i never did it

Like ???
In your opinion, what did you do at end of day 2 then? What was your motive and what did you do to accomplish it?
Idk i got bored and decided to risk it
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