Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[innocentvillager]

This dumb forum game tilts me so much lol

[innocentvillager]

geraint is there zero analysis you can give at this point? who are the scummy votes on your wagon? Like you’re about to get eliminated and in theory you know you’re town, is that not information similar to what we’d otherwise know on D2?

[skitter30]

I like kitty on thr last page
Can we wagon herta again plz >.>

[innocentvillager]

I am worried that you are not at least showing a little bit of urgency in your elimination

[innocentvillager]

Tiger do you like kitty just because he agrees with you on geraint?

[innocentvillager]

I am aware I look very bad if the coin flips tails and gera is actually scum, I just think what he's been doing is completely NAI because he thinks D1 is irrelevant.

I refuse to vote Gera rn, he has consistently shown to play like this as town D1 and I don't do policy lims. He always gets run up for shit takes like clockwork. Get Scol instead.

This isn’t really a policy lim imo cna you give meta examples?

[skitter30]

I refuse to vote Gera rn, he has consistently shown to play like this as town D1 and I don't do policy lims. He always gets run up for shit takes like clockwork. Get Scol instead.

I am aware I look very bad if the coin flips tails and gera is actually scum, I just think what he's been doing is completely NAI because he thinks D1 is irrelevant.

This is gonna sound weird cuz i'm quoting these posts, but no
I like the fact that he's taking a hard stance here and showing that he *knows* how this'll look if gera is bad, yet defending him anyway
It's more abt the conviction in his stance than what the stance actually is if that makes sense

[skitter30]

I am worried that you are not at least showing a little bit of urgency in your elimination

I kinda think he was showing urgency *for him* in some.of his posting yesterday. I think *for him* he's actually trying p hard to defend himself

A lot of his posting has this vibe of incredulity that people don't recognize that this is lightyeard away from his scumgame - this is the approach he's taking to try to not get flipped

[skitter30]

Like he's going into 'i don't want to get flipped, and i can't believe they're flipping me here' mode, and that's manifesting as disbelief thay people actually think he could be town here

[skitter30]

*think he could be scum here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

being useless is literally his default go to approach to the game at every day and i literally just lost a game to him playing the exact same way

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i remain wholly unconvinced by your herta push but I am willing to switch just for you if you ask nicely because I am trying to be a nicer person. how much confidence do you actually have that he flips mafia here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gera who do you think we should kill today and why

@Gera do you have any thoughts about this?

[innocentvillager]

I am worried that you are not at least showing a little bit of urgency in your elimination

I kinda think he was showing urgency *for him* in some.of his posting yesterday. I think *for him* he's actually trying p hard to defend himself

A lot of his posting has this vibe of incredulity that people don't recognize that this is lightyeard away from his scumgame - this is the approach he's taking to try to not get flipped

Do I have zero reading comprehension my impression was that he is just saying his behavior is completely NaI

[Ydrasse]

schrodingers gera both scum and not scum at once a void of play

[geraintm]

geraint is there zero analysis you can give at this point? who are the scummy votes on your wagon? Like you’re about to get eliminated and in theory you know you’re town, is that not information similar to what we’d otherwise know on D2?

geraintm [5]: Scoliosis, Freedom, unwnd, PookyTheMagicalBear, Dannflor

that is the current wagon

Scoliosis

VOTE: geraintm

I've decided I like my pookythebear/herta/geraintm solve the most, and I prefer this wagon because I feel reasonably confident geraintm is scum and it gives more time to figure out the other slots.

that was their vote for me,

geraintm [1]: innocentvillager

Geraintm now has two votes and I don't plan on unvoting for probably the rest of d1.

VOTE: geraintm

I've decided I like my pookythebear/herta/geraintm solve the most, and I prefer this wagon because I feel reasonably confident geraintm is scum and it gives more time to figure out the other slots.

can you elaborate on how/why you are reasonably confident on geraintm

Yes, after I posted 515, which explains where I first started to ruminate that geraintm might be scum, geraintm posted 572 which is exactly the kind of post I expected scum to make from his position. Even without already having built a cogent world view containing scum geraintm, I would have scumread him or anyone else for posting 572. I think there is a self-defeating aspect to geraintm's play where he truly doesn't wish to have to play the game (because he rolled scum), and if he must play it, then he prefers to do as little as possible. Ironically, this is not unlike the play of our ic, Toto.

they then later on usemy post 572 as evidence i am scum, because it is what scum me would do.
i have responded to that, showing that type of post is exactly what i do in every game. they have not responded to that though.
this player i have said i hate their day 1 approach. anyone who is ever this confident about their reads on day 1 is just a bad player.

i also don't think they are scum, because SCum Scoloisis would not be using so much of their credibility to get rid of me.



Freedom

i confess,i had no idea this player was in the game they made such low impact on me

It would help if people not voting start voting someone, we need more drama to sort this out.

OK.
VOTE: gera

that was their initial vote.
It stinks.
since then they have barely been in the game. they agreed with a post Val made about me, and that is about it.

Dislike this slot, would lean scum on it and they are getting away with being on my wagon way too easily.

Unwnd

I'm willing to take a chance on your reads IV

VOTE: Geraintm

that was their vote. I wonder what they will do now that The person they cribbed their vote from has changed their mind on eliminating me?

that was their post 121 out of 125.

I think I would be fine ending the day somewhere on Herta/Geran/Scol. I haven't been paying attention to geran, but none of the key players (in terms of activity, presence) are not pinging me enough to want to risk limming them. I think Dann's statement about 'I'm playing low value' or whatever is likely true. It's not alignment indicative however, so I am taking his stances more at face value; we agree on herta and that's something. I...hesitate on Skitter still and it seems confbias but I don't like that she pitched the idea I was just using pooky's push for my own gain. It's gripes for now as she also agrees herta is scummy. I sort of think he's a prime candidate to get bussed in either scenario of the two aforementioned, so as long my read stands I would very much like to pursue that. Ydra I am null on because ydra and IV I sorta like but am unsettled. Pooky I think is gut town. Too much to be evaluated in the meta chambers.

that was an earlier post, where i am at the top of their list of people to eliminate despite them not paying me any attention
TBF, no one should be paying me any attention. but they - like others, seem to have fallen into voting for me just because it is the prevailing winds. i have no idea what i have done this game to get voted off today.

Pooky

VOTE: gera

his catchup feels like spammy antispew because its chock full of random half assed self meta and literally no discussion of who we should be killing other than him

their vote on me.
and well....this could be said about me every game.

I'm willing to take a chance on your reads IV

VOTE: Geraintm

naughty point number 2 for you

[naughty points for Dannflor (2), SKitter, Unwnd and Scolosis]

this post pings me because why does gera say Scoli is being naughty but doesn't vote for scoli or like literally anyone on this naughty list when scoli is the most viable counterwagon to him?

like maybe if scoli is town here gera doesn't want to spew him as town if he thinks there's a good chance he goes down here and removes scoli as a viable mis-lim.

comaplains i am not voting Scolio, despite that player not being at the top of my Naughty list

I aint voting for anyone at the moment, day one sucks and is worse than random at finding scum. why would i want o vote for someone today i think is mor elikely to be town than now?

arent u voting for herta -.-

they don't realise i still have my random vote on

the last game I played with gerain was a large normal datisi setup

he basically did no solving and lurked all the way to the end and just twiddled his thumbs while the town ate each other for lol reasons.

I have no desire to repeat the experience if he's not going to put in effort and become readable/try.

ah, this makes sense. they have PTSD from the last time i was scum with them and want to avoid that. i can 100% get behind this.


Dannflor

VOTE: geraintm e-1 i think

that was their last vote for me. i had been their initial random vote too.

claim claim claim

I can{t say i particularly enjoy geraintm having 0 reaction to the e'1

they appear to have run me up close to elimination just to get a claim from me.
that is....not good town behaviour in my opinion.

ok i can kill scoliosis I suppose

fine with geraintm too

earlier post, before a vote of Scolio. this slot just is happy pushing me and Scolio (a player i think is town) and getting info from them.
i think this is not own behaviour.

Overall, of the 5 votes on me, i think one comes from town, one i can understand and 3 i think are bad. those would be the ones i would be most interested in seeing gone if anyone was to go today.

[innocentvillager]

Thanks I’ll read it a bit more closely later - why didn’t you do something similar to this until I prompted you to I guess? It still feels you’ve been very whatever about your E1/elimination idk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

3 i think are bad. those would be the ones i would be most interested in seeing gone if anyone was to go today.

who do you want to kill today

[innocentvillager]

i remain wholly unconvinced by your herta push but I am willing to switch just for you if you ask nicely because I am trying to be a nicer person. how much confidence do you actually have that he flips mafia here

I refuse to vote Gera rn, he has consistently shown to play like this as town D1 and I don't do policy lims. He always gets run up for shit takes like clockwork. Get Scol instead.

I am aware I look very bad if the coin flips tails and gera is actually scum, I just think what he's been doing is completely NAI because he thinks D1 is irrelevant.

This is gonna sound weird cuz i'm quoting these posts, but no
I like the fact that he's taking a hard stance here and showing that he *knows* how this'll look if gera is bad, yet defending him anyway
It's more abt the conviction in his stance than what the stance actually is if that makes sense

You don’t think this could mean Kitty is scum and gera is town…?

[innocentvillager]

Oh I forgot I quoted the pooky thing. I thought that quote was interesting because I don’t feel like scum Pooky says that to scum skitter so Pooky is likely town

[Ydrasse]

this game feels fucked lol

[innocentvillager]

I’m legit so confused rn

[innocentvillager]

My new scumteam is like Dannflor KittyTacky Herta (???)

[Ydrasse]

herta is probably the only one of those that could go anywhere rn

[innocentvillager]

Ydrasse can you tell me where your head is at?