Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[MegAzumarill]

VC 4.0.7


Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (4) Radical Rat, Junkochan, professotic, Mathblade [E-3]

Meuh (3) Firebringer, Ydrasse, Enchant

Enchant (1) Meuh
Professotic (1) T-Bone,


Not Voting (4): Porkens, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Past Present Future , Cat Scratch Fever,

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to eliminate
Deadline: 1 day*
*Deadline Frozen for Porkens Replacement

[JunkoChan]

disgusting ate on day end @PPF

both of you

[Past Present Future]

Dawn 1 Final VC

MMR (8) Radical Rat, Past Present Future, Mathblade, furtiveglance, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Ydrasse , Firebringer, Unwnd, [Hammer]

Past Present Future (4) Scarfmanship, MMR, Toogeloo, Enchant,

Unwnd (2) Mastina, Yume

Not Voting (1) T-bone,

Deadline: 1 day*
With 15 alive it took 8 to eliminate.
Deadline was frozen for replacements.

It’s still my theory that at least one of the slots that jumped from us to MMR is probably scum, so maybe Dangle could be scum here? I can’t tell with Ydrasse but the way MMR over the top white knighted STD seems odd if they’re buddies and the arguing with FA doesn’t look partnery, so it has to amongst those three, I think.

[Past Present Future]

Am I allowed Math to deal with urgent rl stuff ffs?

Yes. I think that’s an overreaction.

I asked Titus what your reads were since you were AFK.

I didn’t say or imply you couldn’t be it was just odd.

No it wasn’t, my phone hasn’t been working since the 26th and it was less than 24 hrs anyway but I finally got it fixed but I will always react that way to anyone giving me grief for anything activity related because pretty much few things annoy me more than that.

disgusting ate on day end @PPF

both of you

Do you think I was kidding with this? If I for some unexpected reason would have needed to call 911, I couldn’t have.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@Meg shouldn't deadline be paused because we're waiting on a replacement?

@mod

[JunkoChan]

I have no reason to believe is true, I could tell you right now that my house is on fire,mod is not going to stop the game for that, and there's a chance that you would've been replaced if you weren't a hydra

[T-Bone]

But seriously town does not post like Prof's last three posts. If you all flip DDS and flips town I want no resistance to flipping Prof tomorrow.

How does he sound different here from LOST though?

If your tone reading Prof, you know they have a consistent tone.

Tbh if I were to compare there were times in Lost I felt Prof was trying to find scum and advance the game, especially early on. Prof was even doing it early on in this game enough where I leaned null to town on them on our first phase. I don't think they are doing it now though. I think Prof slipped information that scum have in regards to the players who got the goddess blessings at the end of the first phase. But I also think they way Prof is speaking especially as I push back against him, implies that he isn't looking for a town win. Notice how fixated he is on the idea of punishing one scumteam and that he'd be okay with the other to win. I think that suggests a mindset that he is scum. That's what I meant when I said "town doesn't post like this".

I don't mean to come across as saying "well he doesn't town read me so he must want town to lose". It is like more gut here. He's so desperate for what I believe will be a mislim, he's so desperate to punish perhaps the other scumteam, that no it doesn't feel like Lost to me, and it doesn't feel like town to me. Now like I'm comparing based on memory or feeling, because I don't believe in meta as a tool in the way you do.

I think Prof feels they should be listened to and is now throwing a bit of a fit because they are getting pushback. Which again I think they are capable of that. Prof has demonstrated themselvesa player that crumbles under pressure or pushback. What makes this also not town for me is how little Prof seems to care about the town win condition. Which again is a little guy on my part. But I think Prof using language suggesting that one scumteam needs to be punished, rather than that we need to flip scum, is the difference here.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Actually

VOTE: DDS

The only thing I wonder is that their role sounds kind of similar to yours but I honestly don’t know.

Their role works very differently from mine since I'm only a role watcher

Well you both can check if someone has been targeted and they can do it both nights or am I misunderstanding this?

I can check whether someone was targeted with a negative role but i don't know who visited them

DDS can check who actually targeted someone

[JunkoChan]

I'm not trying to be toxic here, and I don't want you to get mad, it just feels like emotional manipulation fmpov

[T-Bone]

Dawn 1 Final VC

MMR (8) Radical Rat, Past Present Future, Mathblade, furtiveglance, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Ydrasse , Firebringer, Unwnd, [Hammer]

Past Present Future (4) Scarfmanship, MMR, Toogeloo, Enchant,

Unwnd (2) Mastina, Yume

Not Voting (1) T-bone,

Deadline: 1 day*
With 15 alive it took 8 to eliminate.
Deadline was frozen for replacements.

It’s still my theory that at least one of the slots that jumped from us to MMR is probably scum, so maybe Dangle could be scum here? I can’t tell with Ydrasse but the way MMR over the top white knighted STD seems odd if they’re buddies and the arguing with FA doesn’t look partnery, so it has to amongst those three, I think.

Sorry, which three? DDS, and two others?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Basically DDS and I have very different roles and that shouldn't be a reason to vote DDS

[T-Bone]

Oh Nancy, do you remember how Prof crumbles on day 1 when they were wagoned? I don't remember them doing that at any point during Lost, do you?

I feel like if you're a person who relies on meta, that's a pretty obvious difference, no?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm not trying to be toxic here, and I don't want you to get mad, it just feels like emotional manipulation fmpov

I’m sure no one else would be freaking out if they literally couldn’t call out on their phone for almost a week. I’m not going to continue discussing this because then I will become toxic. I also dislike activity-based pushes in general. I do however think pushes based on a player posting elsewhere on site and looking like they’re avoiding the game are valid, for obvious reasons.

[Past Present Future]

Dawn 1 Final VC

MMR (8) Radical Rat, Past Present Future, Mathblade, furtiveglance, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Ydrasse , Firebringer, Unwnd, [Hammer]

Past Present Future (4) Scarfmanship, MMR, Toogeloo, Enchant,

Unwnd (2) Mastina, Yume

Not Voting (1) T-bone,

Deadline: 1 day*
With 15 alive it took 8 to eliminate.
Deadline was frozen for replacements.

It’s still my theory that at least one of the slots that jumped from us to MMR is probably scum, so maybe Dangle could be scum here? I can’t tell with Ydrasse but the way MMR over the top white knighted STD seems odd if they’re buddies and the arguing with FA doesn’t look partnery, so it has to amongst those three, I think.

Sorry, which three? DDS, and two others?

Ydrasse and Fire. They were all at the end of MMR wagon, so I think it’s likely at least one vote had to be a bus.

[Past Present Future]

Basically DDS and I have very different roles and that shouldn't be a reason to vote DDS

I just really don’t know who to vote for. I still strongly read you and Meuh as town.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I can’t tell with Ydrasse but the way MMR over the top white knighted STD seems odd if they’re buddies and the arguing with FA doesn’t look partnery, so it has to amongst those three, I think.

They can still be scum on the other faction

[Meuh]

At this point a lim on Ydrasse/Enchant/Toog slot I'm all okay with, though I'll vote for DDS if the deadline isn't frozen to make sure we at least get a lim through.

[Past Present Future]

Oh Nancy, do you remember how Prof crumbles on day 1 when they were wagoned? I don't remember them doing that at any point during Lost, do you?

I feel like if you're a person who relies on meta, that's a pretty obvious difference, no?

I don’t think they were ever actually wagoned on LOST until the day after they faked the guilty on DNA.

[Meuh]

At this point a lim on Ydrasse/Enchant/Toog slot I'm all okay with, though I'll vote for DDS if the deadline isn't frozen to make sure we at least get a lim through.

Actually Firebringer too, but I don't think a lim there goes through today with the way people have been treating them.

[MegAzumarill]

@Meg shouldn't deadline be paused because we're waiting on a replacement?

@mod

This is the case and will be included in the VC.

[JunkoChan]

I'm not trying to be toxic here, and I don't want you to get mad, it just feels like emotional manipulation fmpov

I’m sure no one else would be freaking out if they literally couldn’t call out on their phone for almost a week. I’m not going to continue discussing this because then I will become toxic. I also dislike activity-based pushes in general. I do however think pushes based on a player posting elsewhere on site and looking like they’re avoiding the game are valid, for obvious reasons.

ye take note that I'm not voting you for this reason it just annoys me a little bit

[JunkoChan]

At this point a lim on Ydrasse/Enchant/Toog slot I'm all okay with, though I'll vote for DDS if the deadline isn't frozen to make sure we at least get a lim through.

who of those you think is more likely to be scum and why?

[Past Present Future]

I'm not trying to be toxic here, and I don't want you to get mad, it just feels like emotional manipulation fmpov

I’m sure no one else would be freaking out if they literally couldn’t call out on their phone for almost a week. I’m not going to continue discussing this because then I will become toxic. I also dislike activity-based pushes in general. I do however think pushes based on a player posting elsewhere on site and looking like they’re avoiding the game are valid, for obvious reasons.

ye take note that I'm not voting you for this reason it just annoys me a little bit

Can we just drop this now? Thanks.

[Past Present Future]

Oh Nancy, do you remember how Prof crumbles on day 1 when they were wagoned? I don't remember them doing that at any point during Lost, do you?

I feel like if you're a person who relies on meta, that's a pretty obvious difference, no?

There’s a post where MMR calls Prof “rude”, so I think it looks antipartnery.

[Meuh]

At this point a lim on Ydrasse/Enchant/Toog slot I'm all okay with, though I'll vote for DDS if the deadline isn't frozen to make sure we at least get a lim through.

who of those you think is more likely to be scum and why?

Toog's read town to me a decent amount iirc, I'm not super excited for a vote there but it's one I can see go through and I don't think the downside is too bad if Toog does happen to be town.
Enchant has like 1 or 2 posts I'm iffy on but nothing conclusive, I'm notably bad at reading them

I'll actually VOTE: Ydrasse here because her apathy feels uncharacteristic.
I've played with town!Ydrasse who felt disconnected from the game but she still felt like she actually cared to some extent? Like she had feelings about the game even if lost and not that connected. So this feels a bit off.

Can't say I'm super confident in my reads at this point in general, T-Bone/DDS being scum I was sold on, but then DDS's claim and T-Bone's behaviour around it just felt right. Now with T-Bone looking a bit townier and DDS having some sort of info to provide it's looking less good to lim over there.

This gamestate just feels bad and I think our biggest obstacle as a town is going to be actually being able to effectively and actively work together, those 3 slots feel like we can maybe agree on them and the downside if they're town isn't too harsh. Maybe that's a bad perspective to have but it's the one I have at this point.