Gnosia Game over!

[Not Known 15]

NK15, can you confirm that this came from you?

I can confirm that this did not come from me.

[Roden]

though it was kinda a strange way for marashu to phrase it due to saying town as opposed to humans but ehhh feels fairly interchangeable to me

Wanted to say it that way because at the time I didn't know whether or not there's a lie detector (to be fair, I still don't) and wanted to cover for bug/traitor coming up human in case it's an actual lie detector and not just saying you're human. Don't know if it's NK15's actual skill or if it's a bluff, but I lose nothing by going along with that as well.

FakeGod's intro is giving me +traitor vibes.

Niche detail, but in the game Bug can actually get caught by Say You're Human even though roles can still misdiagnose them as Human. Personally, I see it as a psychological slip in-universe, the Bug knows what they are and ultimately doesn't perceive themself to be Human.

Also, I agree about FG, 3p hunting is more of a scum concern than a town one.

VOTE: FakeGod

[JunkoChan]

He obviously asks what human we have.

If question was about if i am human, he worded it "State if you are human".

I think the intention was to use a character ability, if I'm wrong about that, I'm still on the side of saying who your character is

like not right now but maybe as Roden said, close to end of the day

[JunkoChan]

though it was kinda a strange way for marashu to phrase it due to saying town as opposed to humans but ehhh feels fairly interchangeable to me

Wanted to say it that way because at the time I didn't know whether or not there's a lie detector (to be fair, I still don't) and wanted to cover for bug/traitor coming up human in case it's an actual lie detector and not just saying you're human. Don't know if it's NK15's actual skill or if it's a bluff, but I lose nothing by going along with that as well.

FakeGod's intro is giving me +traitor vibes.

Niche detail, but in the game Bug can actually get caught by Say You're Human even though roles can still misdiagnose them as Human. Personally, I see it as a psychological slip in-universe, the Bug knows what they are and ultimately doesn't perceive themself to be Human.

Also, I agree about FG, 3p hunting is more of a scum concern than a town one.

VOTE: FakeGod

I can see this too, I'm willing to vote there, Enchant is a vibe vote

[Roden]

NK15, can you confirm that this came from you?

I can confirm that this did not come from me.

Wait, really? I assumed skills had to be stated in-thread.

I guess it's obvious that I didn't cause the vote change either. I'll leave it up to whoever activated it to come forward if they wish. I do think it's +crew to use it now though, since Gnosia would want to use it more strategically I think.

[Enchant]

I think it's +scum to use it now.

[Roden]

Why do you think so?

[JunkoChan]

NK15, can you confirm that this came from you?

I can confirm that this did not come from me.

Wait, really? I assumed skills had to be stated in-thread.

I guess it's obvious that I didn't cause the vote change either. I'll leave it up to whoever activated it to come forward if they wish. I do think it's +crew to use it now though, since Gnosia would want to use it more strategically I think.

my ability is activated by DMing the mod

[Roden]

NK15, can you confirm that this came from you?

I can confirm that this did not come from me.

Wait, really? I assumed skills had to be stated in-thread.

I guess it's obvious that I didn't cause the vote change either. I'll leave it up to whoever activated it to come forward if they wish. I do think it's +crew to use it now though, since Gnosia would want to use it more strategically I think.

my ability is activated by DMing the mod

Huh, alright, I guess a mix of both makes sense. Mine is in-thread.

[Enchant]

Presumed all char abilities 1-shot.

Let's fire ability which basically disables anonymous voting in FIRST DAY.

It's not like we needed it... Ugh like LATER when mafia really will try to force their way with votes and possible high stakes?

Looks like excuse to not use it in more useful way.
Because ONLY MAFIA benefits from anonymous voting.


Also by anonymous i mean any voting mechanism where votes not revealed or not revealed instantly.

[Enchant]

Also if someone think i trying to avoid answering NK15 question (which i am still not sure what does).

Yes. I do.
I am aligned with town and has no excuse to not answer actually. Yet i will not. Just in case it can be harmful.

[Marashu]

Presumed all char abilities 1-shot.

Let's fire ability which basically disables anonymous voting in FIRST DAY.

It's not like we needed it... Ugh like LATER when mafia really will try to force their way with votes and possible high stakes?

Looks like excuse to not use it in more useful way.
Because ONLY MAFIA benefits from anonymous voting.


Also by anonymous i mean any voting mechanism where votes not revealed or not revealed instantly.

I disagreed at first, but now that I think about it, I'm more inclined to agree here. Today's the only day that will require majority instead of plurality, and maf are the only ones who know how many maf are left, so sneaking in a late-game block vote even when you don't have majority could be huge.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

State your human.

I'm a human!

it's obviously I'm a human, haven't you looked at me?!?!

I hate this post it feels almost too good

you haven't played the game (gnosia) have you?

I've been looking at lets plays since this started. So no.

[Roden]

While those are fair points, Gnosia could also save it for later to secure a potential quick hammer. And I do think it's helpful that everyone will be forced to show their hand early and vote instead of just claiming FoS on certain slots.

If the user is town, then yes they probably should've waited. But I do think that crew is more likely to use it now, especially after the conversation about tracking FoS/vote intents happened.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

He obviously asks what human we have.

If question was about if i am human, he worded it "State if you are human".

I think the intention was to use a character ability, if I'm wrong about that, I'm still on the side of saying who your character is

like not right now but maybe as Roden said, close to end of the day

But then it begs the question would it be used for later in the day all said votes would be revealed. So I'm not missing anything

[quote="In post 72, Roden"

]I believe that only character abilities are one shot. "

Say You're Human", for instance, is a skill in the game and would be a character-specific ability, and thus would be one shot.[/quote]

I was saying this as well just people didn't apparently notice this.

This is also why I never understood the whole I'm human posts if the ability is a one shot

[Enchant]

I think NM didn't use ability and just bait reactions.

[JunkoChan]

While those are fair points, Gnosia could also save it for later to secure a potential quick hammer. And I do think it's helpful that everyone will be forced to show their hand early and vote instead of just claiming FoS on certain slots.

If the user is town, then yes they probably should've waited. But I do think that crew is more likely to use it now, especially after the conversation about tracking FoS/vote intents happened.

exactly, I think is more town intention than scum intention, if a scum used it well... thank you very much for throwing is what I feel

[JunkoChan]

I think NM didn't use ability and just bait reactions.

I still would preffer everyone to answer it, like unless you are scum bug or traitor and you feel like it might caught you there's no reason not to lol, unless you can tell me what's the problem about it

[Marashu]

I think NM didn't use ability and just bait reactions.

To which I say, even if it's a bluff, what do you have to lose by going along with it?

While those are fair points, Gnosia could also save it for later to secure a potential quick hammer. And I do think it's helpful that everyone will be forced to show their hand early and vote instead of just claiming FoS on certain slots.

If the user is town, then yes they probably should've waited. But I do think that crew is more likely to use it now, especially after the conversation about tracking FoS/vote intents happened.

exactly, I think is more town intention than scum intention, if a scum used it well... thank you very much for throwing is what I feel

tbh bug and traitor have no reason to hang on to it.

[Roden]

I think NM didn't use ability and just bait reactions.

Not_Mafia_15

[Marashu]

Unless it's being used by maf to find the bug and get pseudo-clears for partners. But like, ok? Then what?

[Enchant]

Pft.

I meant NK15. Yeah

[Enchant]

I lose nothing.

I just don't believe NK and his ability.

[FakeGod]

I really don't see the logic behind it.

There are three groups trying to win in this game. Presumably, each group has some percentage of victory.

If we kill off one of the groups, then logic dictates that the chance of victory goes up for the other two groups.

Although, I need to reconsider my proposal - I did not know how the Bug's victory condition worked until shiki explained it to me.

[JunkoChan]

I think NM didn't use ability and just bait reactions.

To which I say, even if it's a bluff, what do you have to lose by going along with it?

While those are fair points, Gnosia could also save it for later to secure a potential quick hammer. And I do think it's helpful that everyone will be forced to show their hand early and vote instead of just claiming FoS on certain slots.

If the user is town, then yes they probably should've waited. But I do think that crew is more likely to use it now, especially after the conversation about tracking FoS/vote intents happened.

exactly, I think is more town intention than scum intention, if a scum used it well... thank you very much for throwing is what I feel

tbh bug and traitor have no reason to hang on to it.

Wdym?