OPEN 868 - Nobility and the Dark Angel | Endgame

[Polar Bear Express]

This also pinged me a bit. Why ask this? Were you hoping to maybe push me had Enchant expressed suspicion on me?

Your town read on Enchant seemed a bit weird to me at the time given I was not town reading them. Also Enchant was not really engaging much beyond troll posting so seemed like a good question to ask at the time to get reads out of them.

Also generally your analysis has been a bit black/white which does raise my suspicion on your slot a little bit. You are a hydra too which complicates things a bit in terms of reading you.

I have played with him a lot and I think I made some very valid points and you trying to deflect it onto me isn’t helping my read of you one iota.

I also pushed Elmo but his response to that read townie. He also tr Porkens prior to flip where you said he’s flipping red.

You don’t get to call my analysis as “black and white” and not address any of my arguments. Fact is that three out of four dead town had you in their PoE: Elements, Passenger and of course, Porkens, so you give me an actually good reason to debunk all of that instead of deflecting it on to me.

VOTE: Toto

~Nancy

[Polar Bear Express]

I was in Chromavalon and scum!Umlaut did that to me as well rather than actually address any of my reasoning. Oh and Enchant was flaming obvscum in that.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

It’s also possible Elmo could be scum and we could have had a chance to find out had day not ended so abruptly. :/

You would have been dead already

Contrast Elmo’s response to my push on him with Toto’s.

~N

[Toto]

You are either not reading, bad at logic, or scum. You can die either way.

Have fun when I flip green.

VOTE: Bear

[Polar Bear Express]

You are either not reading, bad at logic, or scum. You can die either way.

Have fun when I flip green.

VOTE: Bear

I keep asking you to respond to my questions and all I get in response from you is omgus. I am going to flip town here, whether you miselim us or nk us because your response to my vote doesn’t address anything I’ve said.

You miselimed Porkens, so if you’re town here and I’m wrong than tell me why. You’re not intimidating me with a shit vote.

~N

[Toto]

You don’t get to call my analysis as “black and white” and not address any of my arguments. Fact is that three out of four dead town had you in their PoE: Elements, Passenger and of course, Porkens, so you give me an actually good reason to debunk all of that instead of deflecting it on to me.

What arguments?.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are town. How do you expect town!toto to respond and "debunk" this.

When I saw passanger dead on day start the first thought that came to mind is probably scum trying to frame me, and well... here you are.

[Polar Bear Express]

HEAL: N_M
VOTE: toto
N_M is town this game.
I feel it in my bones

Why does NM kill Elements here?

~Nancy

You completely ignored this question. Had you actually responded to this in a way that makes sense, I’d probably unvote you but you answer nothing just omgus me. It’s extremely obvious we’re town here and if I’m wrong on you, then you’re terrible at scumhunting but nothing you’ve posted so far is doing jack to change my mind. Why can’t scum!you omgus me like that? Why should I tr you for that? Scum!Gamma did the exact same thing to me in LOST right after I unvoted them and I got fooled by that into unvoting them. If I’m wrong and you’re actually town here, then give me actual reasons to resscess not this bs.

~N

[Not_Mafia]

You don’t get to call my analysis as “black and white” and not address any of my arguments. Fact is that three out of four dead town had you in their PoE: Elements, Passenger and of course, Porkens, so you give me an actually good reason to debunk all of that instead of deflecting it on to me.

What arguments?.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are town. How do you expect town!toto to respond and "debunk" this.

When I saw passanger dead on day start the first thought that came to mind is probably scum trying to frame me, and well... here you are.

What about Occam's Razor?

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 3.01

Elimination

Not_Mafia

(2): Eiralox, JunkoChan

Toto

(1): Polar Bear Express

Polar Bear Express

(1): Toto

Not Voting

(6):

Elmo TeH AzN

, Tapiocaphobe, Herta, Not_Mafia, Enchant

BOLD

denotes double vote

Nobility

Tapiocaphobe

(1): Eiralox

Not Voting

(8):Elmo TeH AzN, Tapiocaphobe, Herta, Toto, Polar Bear Express, Not_Mafia, Enchant, JunkoChan

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-12-17 10:55:28).

Mod notes:

• The hidden noble's extra vote does not appear in the Vote Count.
  
• The elected noble counts as 2 players for the purpose of elimination requirements.
  
• With effectively 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for elimination.

[Polar Bear Express]

You don’t get to call my analysis as “black and white” and not address any of my arguments. Fact is that three out of four dead town had you in their PoE: Elements, Passenger and of course, Porkens, so you give me an actually good reason to debunk all of that instead of deflecting it on to me.

What arguments?.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are town. How do you expect town!toto to respond and "debunk" this.

When I saw passanger dead on day start the first thought that came to mind is probably scum trying to frame me, and well... here you are.

Elements, Passenger and Porkens all had you in their PoE. Why should I view that as a frame? And why would you - if you’re actually town here - assume that it’s me who’d be doing that anyway? It’s not townie that you’re ignoring the rest of our posts when I think my reasoning is valid. And if I’m wrong on you here, it’s going to look horrible for you when we die.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

HEAL: N_M
VOTE: toto
N_M is town this game.
I feel it in my bones

Why does NM kill Elements here?

~Nancy

If you’re town here Toto, stop avoiding answering this and deflecting with a frame narrative.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

I'm the hidden noble

Why is NM being voted when no one is CCing this?

~N

[Toto]

If I’m wrong and you’re actually town here, then give me actual reasons to resscess not this bs.

Your reasons are scum!me shot elements and passenger, can you think of reasons that would happen if I'm town? If so, what do I need to debunk? If not, you are just either bad or scum. You can call it omgus but I call it truth. Truth hurts.

Is it because I was wrong on my scum read on Porkens? What about the other half of town that lolhammered them when I was afk? Do you town read them?

What about yesterday wagon? I was basically afk the entire time. Why do you not scum read Enchant after lolhammering not one but two people? What about not_mafia doing the same?

Basically your case on me is either badly thought out, inconsistent or made up.

[Tapiocaphobe]

i want to see what elmo has to say tonight

[Polar Bear Express]

You don’t get to call my analysis as “black and white” and not address any of my arguments. Fact is that three out of four dead town had you in their PoE: Elements, Passenger and of course, Porkens, so you give me an actually good reason to debunk all of that instead of deflecting it on to me.

What arguments?.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are town. How do you expect town!toto to respond and "debunk" this.

When I saw passanger dead on day start the first thought that came to mind is probably scum trying to frame me, and well... here you are.

Okay, well from my pov why am I supposed to think when 3 dead town had you in their PoE, auto assume that and for you to auto vote me for making a very logical assumption isn’t townie. You should just say I’m wrong and to look elsewhere but instead you just try to intimidate me with this vote.

If three dead town had us in our PoE and someone voted me for that, my first response as town would be to reason with them why take is bad, not to autovote them as some frame conspiracy bs.

It’s only after they continued failed to see my reasons for this, would I be jumping to that conclusion. I think you look to me rn like defensive scum because from my PoV, you should not expect me to be viewing it is as auto frame when three dead town were highly suss on you.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

If I’m wrong and you’re actually town here, then give me actual reasons to resscess not this bs.

Your reasons are scum!me shot elements and passenger, can you think of reasons that would happen if I'm town? If so, what do I need to debunk? If not, you are just either bad or scum. You can call it omgus but I call it truth. Truth hurts.

Is it because I was wrong on my scum read on Porkens? What about the other half of town that lolhammered them when I was afk? Do you town read them?

What about yesterday wagon? I was basically afk the entire time. Why do you not scum read Enchant after lolhammering not one but two people? What about not_mafia doing the same?

Basically your case on me is either badly thought out, inconsistent or made up.

Both of them lolhammer as any alignment but you’re STILL not answering any of my questions. Dead town!Passenger also voted Freedom. Do I think that wagon was terrible? Yes but nia.

Again, tell me WHY. You have yet to explain any of it.

If I’m wrong on you, I want actual reasoning and then I’ll reacess but all I keep getting from you is my reasoning is bad or I’m scum. Since I know I’m town, this ain’t cutting it.

~N

[Tapiocaphobe]

VOTE: Not_mafia

this is mockery at this point

Elmo for other mafia

why elmo/n_m specifically?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Not_mafia

this is mockery at this point

Elmo for other mafia

why elmo/n_m specifically?

To be fair they are looking at me as a policy at this point. And at this rate you will be getting a list.
I have my reasons why

[JunkoChan]

VOTE: Not_mafia

this is mockery at this point

Elmo for other mafia

why elmo/n_m specifically?

[Toto]

K, PBE, I'm going to ignore you. I have already explained and if you can't see it, like I said before, you are either scum or can't be helped. Either way it is a waste of time and blood pressure.

[Polar Bear Express]

K, PBE, I'm going to ignore you. I have already explained and if you can't see it, like I said before, you are either scum or can't be helped. Either way it is a waste of time and blood pressure.

Okay, well if you refuse to answer even a single one of my questions, then my vote isn’t moving.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

No I don’t see it and if you’ve already explained it, point me to where. You just continuing to shade or discrediting me isn’t changing my mind on you one iota.

Did scum somehow hypnotize 3 dead town to suss you too? If you’re actually town here, you should acknowledge why Elements/Passenger nks look bad for you and making some attempt to debunk those but sure I’m scum here for thinking that possibly implicates you? You’re reaction to me doesn’t read townie and I’ve given you multiple chances to show me where I’m wrong and shoot my read on you down but you have yet to give me even a single reason why.

~N

[Polar Bear Express]

No I don’t see it and if you’ve already explained it, point me to where. You just continuing to shade or discrediting me isn’t changing my mind on you one iota.

Did scum somehow hypnotize 3 dead town to suss you too? If you’re actually town here, you should acknowledge why Elements/Passenger nks look bad for you and making some attempt to debunk those but sure I’m scum here for thinking that possibly implicates you? You’re reaction to me doesn’t read townie and I’ve given you multiple chances to show me where I’m wrong and shoot my read on you down but you have yet to give me even a single reason why.

~N

I specifically mean why their reads on you were all wrong. Calling it a “frame” with no other explanation and auto voting me for that does absolutely nothing to make me want to unvote you.

~N

[Toto]

I specifically mean why their reads on you were all wrong.

Cause I'm town.

[Polar Bear Express]

K, PBE, I'm going to ignore you. I have already explained and if you can't see it, like I said before, you are either scum or can't be helped. Either way it is a waste of time and blood pressure.

This is a strange response if you actually think I’m scum here, it reads more like you want to votepark on me rather than actually respond to any of my questions.

~N