Gnosia Game over!

[Ranger]

there is no middle bloc!

???

surely he could have if he didn't do it on his 4th post

The day's mechanic changed. Would your plans remain identical before/after a change?

NK15 on purpose had almost zero of interaction with other people (just vague posts), so it's clearly, he is pawn to be sacrificed to reveal me.

I don't believe this is a real Enchant-town post.

Plus, NK15's entrance has a cop's mindset.

[Ranger]

Can we talk about the differences in our reads lists a little bit?

If I believed your reasons were genuine, I would. I don't, sorry.

160 is not a real cop, I've the exact opposite read on it as you and your take feels faked.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere}
{JunkoChan, shiki, Jessica Rabbit}
{Roden}
{Scoliosis, Klick, Yume}
{Elmo teH AzN, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

[Ranger]

was enchant talking about not looking for the bug supposed to be a smokescreen then?

Imo, 27+30+31 does spew Enchant as the fake, agreed.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere, shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit}
{Roden}
{Scoliosis, Klick, Yume}
{Elmo teH AzN, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

[Scoliosis]

VOTE: Ranger

I found scum in the active posters.

[Ranger]

why would a town player fake a cop claim?

They wouldn't, because the real cop would counterclaim and town would be thrown into a shitshow.

This is also why I trust NK15. Scum if claiming cop know real cop counterclaims. In a follow-the-cop game, this forces a 1v1 they're likely to lose.

Meanwhile, scum

counterclaiming

cop know the danger of follow-the-cop. I realize you can argue vice-versa, but this version's more likely imo.

[Scoliosis]

Elmo TeH AzN scum? says he doesn't know about the game but calls my 55 too good and never elaborates on it?

I can see Ranger and Elmo as group scum:

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere, shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit}
{Roden}
{Scoliosis, Klick, Yume}
{

Elmo teH AzN

, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

Ranger's sorting doesn't seem very natural and I think Elmo could be placed here for distancing.

[Scoliosis]

Meanwhile, scum counterclaiming cop know the danger of follow-the-cop. I realize you can argue vice-versa, but this version's more likely imo.

This isn't true.

[Roden]

Can we talk about the differences in our reads lists a little bit?

If I believed your reasons were genuine, I would. I don't, sorry.

160 is not a real cop, I've the exact opposite read on it as you and your take feels faked.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere}
{JunkoChan, shiki, Jessica Rabbit}
{Roden}
{Scoliosis, Klick, Yume}
{Elmo teH AzN, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

Why is Scoliosis center null in your reads?

[Ranger]

VOTE: JunkoChan
She posts a lot and says a lot of things that look vaguely helpful but I don't think any of them are town things.

I'm in a weird spot: Klick's competent, so I'd expect a town-him to have good reads.
He looks vaguely town, but his reads largely oppose mine.

Honestly not sure which of {Klick is scum, I am wrong, Klick's got a bad start} is most likely rn.

[Scoliosis]

VOTE: JunkoChan
She posts a lot and says a lot of things that look vaguely helpful but I don't think any of them are town things.

I'm in a weird spot: Klick's competent, so I'd expect a town-him to have good reads.
He looks vaguely town, but his reads largely oppose mine.

Honestly not sure which of {Klick is scum, I am wrong, Klick's got a bad start} is most likely rn.

This feels like a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

[Scoliosis]

In my dream version of the gamestate, Ranger is scum who just spewed shiki as town in 252, and I am the hero for spotting all of the tells.

[Ranger]

Meanwhile, scum counterclaiming cop know the danger of follow-the-cop. I realize you can argue vice-versa, but this version's more likely imo.

This isn't true.

Stats disagree with you. Scum counterclaiming is statistically speaking far more likely than town counterclaiming. Therefore, by theory, scum CCing is more likely.

That, aside from play. I believe NK15's play as town. I don't believe Enchant's.

Why is Scoliosis center null in your reads?

Because he's null still.
I don't believe his takes are sincere; I'm ambivalent if it's scum or insincere-town.

I might be leaning town, but I don't feel engaging Scoliosis on all reads would be productive.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere, shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit, Roden}
{Scoliosis}
{Klick, Yume}
{Elmo teH AzN, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

[Ranger]

This feels like a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Kinda?
It's explicitly stating an undefined read on Klick (which counts as 'absolutely nothing'), and giving the reasons

why

the read isn't defined.

Ranger's sorting doesn't seem very natural and I think Elmo could be placed here for distancing.

Try voting Elmo and see what I do. ;)

[Scoliosis]

Stats disagree with you. Scum counterclaiming is statistically speaking far more likely than town counterclaiming. Therefore, by theory, scum CCing is more likely.

The problem is that you are applying statistics to solve a probability question and misleading others. I can't tell if you are doing that to be deliberately anti town or because you are ignorant of the difference between statistics and probability, so either way you are a liability and my vote stays.

[Scoliosis]

Not only that, I don't have access to the data you claim to have, so I can't even verify if the statistics you claim to be working from actually exist.

[Scoliosis]

Try voting Elmo and see what I do.

I prefer to vote you and challenge any dubious statements you make and see what you do then.

[Autere]

Enchant is probably the real cop. He's more invested in the consequences of being forced to claim this day, meanwhile NK15 is just being purposely vague

VOTE: NK15

[Roden]

Why is Scoliosis center null in your reads?

Because he's null still.
I don't believe his takes are sincere; I'm ambivalent if it's scum or insincere-town.

I might be leaning town, but I don't feel engaging Scoliosis on all reads would be productive.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Autere, shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit, Roden}
{Scoliosis}
{Klick, Yume}
{Elmo teH AzN, FakeGod}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu}
--
{Enchant}

What motive does town have in making insincere reads??

This feels like a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Kinda?
It's explicitly stating an undefined read on Klick (which counts as 'absolutely nothing'), and giving the reasons

why

the read isn't defined.

Ranger's sorting doesn't seem very natural and I think Elmo could be placed here for distancing.

Try voting Elmo and see what I do.

VOTE: Elmo

[Autere]

Autere, what do you like to do in your free time within the game of mafia? 143, 153 and 159 seem like you're pretty invested in figuring out Roden's alignment.

Yeah I have no idea what to make of Roden. His speech is direct but it all just sort of blurs for me. Lot of analysis with setup in mind which is well and good but it's not helping me develop how he individually feels about others playing the game. That is where I am bothered

[Enchant]

Elmo blatantly avoids this game for some reason actually.

[Scoliosis]

Enchant is probably the real cop. He's more invested in the consequences of being forced to claim this day, meanwhile NK15 is just being purposely vague

VOTE: NK15

Autere, what do you like to do in your free time within the game of mafia? 143, 153 and 159 seem like you're pretty invested in figuring out Roden's alignment.

There sure is a lot of mech talk and I'm not getting anything from any of it

I kinda like FakeGod around Page 6 giving what feels like just genuinely what's on his mind

Autere, what do you like to do in your free time within the game of mafia? 143, 153 and 159 seem like you're pretty invested in figuring out Roden's alignment.

Yeah I have no idea what to make of Roden. His speech is direct but it all just sort of blurs for me. Lot of analysis with setup in mind which is well and good but it's not helping me develop how he individually feels about others playing the game. That is where I am bothered

That makes sense, I've seen scum play similar to how Roden has played stylistically, what makes me think Roden is town really is just his activity combined with the overall quality of his takes.

With regards to nk15, do you think he is more likely to be traitor or groupscum?

[Scoliosis]

Elmo blatantly avoids this game for some reason actually.

Are you saying that they're in their town range right now?

[Autere]

I've got simple thoughts about it. Enchant looks town so NK15 is not. He could be traitor/groupscum/flyingspaghettimonster and it would all be the same to me

[Enchant]

Elmo blatantly avoids this game for some reason actually.

Are you saying that they're in their town range right now?

It's opposite. I don't see reason why Elmo would lurk on purpose.

[Scoliosis]

I've got simple thoughts about it. Enchant looks town so NK15 is not. He could be traitor/groupscum/flyingspaghettimonster and it would all be the same to me

I think auteur is probably town. Elmo seems scummy so far but I want to see what they do next.