Gnosia Game over!

[Ranger]

Page 9 I'm that behind I'll read later something about this game does feel really odd though. Especially the ccs

I'm sorry, you sound really scummy, can you post some reads?

This is normal for me. And I was using that as a place holder for where I left off.

You made no commentary at all about pages 1-9 despite reading them?

[Ranger]

I hate the decreasing number of brackets (7 brackets in 317 and 6 brackets in 320) between your posts here in addition to the fact you posted a reads list twice within 6 minutes.

Would you prefer I fake having not had a shift in reads?

None of my reads are strong this early; their separation is by a thin margin, and my thoughts on past content rapidly changes.

I can explain any changes if asked.

think posting a reads list multiple times like that is lamist

It may have been 6 years since my last game, but the thing which gave me my title hasn't changed. Perhaps you should try checking my past games and see what they tell you. ;)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Page 9 I'm that behind I'll read later something about this game does feel really odd though. Especially the ccs

I'm sorry, you sound really scummy, can you post some reads?

This is normal for me. And I was using that as a place holder for where I left off.

You made no commentary at all about pages 1-9 despite reading them?

I need to reread them now that I have some understanding of the game.

[Ranger]

{Not Known 15}
--
{Roden}
{Autere, Scoliosis}
{shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit}
{Klick, Yume}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu, FakeGod, Elmo teH AzN}
--
{Enchant}

This one needs clarification; it's both FG/Elmo moving down and Marashu moving up (stale reads).

[Enchant]

Do you even put atleast one bit of thought in it.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Do you even put atleast one bit of thought in it.

If this is at me. I do day ones I tend to just coast and with where I am in my life I put less thought into this game at the moment.

{Not Known 15}
--
{Roden}
{Autere, Scoliosis}
{shiki}
{JunkoChan, Jessica Rabbit}
{Klick, Yume}
{narrow parking}
{Marashu, FakeGod, Elmo teH AzN}
--
{Enchant}

This one needs clarification; it's both FG/Elmo moving down and Marashu moving up (stale reads).

I'm just going to say this. You do these lists like they are going to mean something later when in reality it just shows people how much buttering up is needed to you.

[shiki]

Considering you've been pretty active in the thread I'd expect you to be able to post a full reads list and that would help me town read you.

do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you

really think that being able to post a reads list is particularly plus town

[Enchant]

no i am about readlists which is so far make no sense for me

[shiki]

Autere, what do you like to do in your free time within the game of mafia? 143, 153 and 159 seem like you're pretty invested in figuring out Roden's alignment.

I'm amazed it only took me 9 minutes to find that quote of junko. I guess I will lob a question at Autere.

oh hi

nevermind

probably just engaging in known town behaviour tm get everyone involved et cetera

[shiki]

Autere, what do you like to do in your free time within the game of mafia? 143, 153 and 159 seem like you're pretty invested in figuring out Roden's alignment.

I'm amazed it only took me 9 minutes to find that quote of junko. I guess I will lob a question at Autere.

oh hi

nevermind

probably just engaging in known town behaviour tm get everyone involved et cetera

also like

downhill vs ranger flatground

which idk how much i believe in the effectiveness of but probably +town

[shiki]

If Enchant's claim is fake, he decided to CC Engineer in 1 minute 26 seconds
I'm of the opinion that that's not enough time for him to have confidently decided to CC if it's fake

...unless Enchant made that decision before I claimed.

Nah I don't think Enchant did that.

i mean, enchant was actively thinking about claims long before the game even started

viewtopic.php?p=13558956#p13558956

how are you weighing the likelihood here

[shiki]

My only concern was that your ability is a One shot. Which I'm assuming it's not by how you are talking. That's my biggest concern with this game

Abilities in the source material(yes I know it) are usually

not

one-shot. I'll explain later. For now please follow the instructions.

From what I've learnes about the lore. I believe this

For clarity sake.

I am human.

Elmo's town

could you like

please walk me through what town thought process

you are detecting from elmo in 304

?

like to me

sure from source material not all abilities one-shot

yup sure

i am human yup again sure standard response

but why do you think this comes from town!elmo specifically like what thoughts do you think elmo is having that brings this together into, oh look a town! ya know

[shiki]

also i am not sure what not known 15 is even asking us to do with regards to character ability anymore,

I have used it already...

I don't believe you.

Doesn't matter. Quote my post, and affirm. Now.

like are we supposed to be saying

'i am human' as i first assumed

or are we meant to be saying

'state you're human' as scoliosis then did

which, uh, wouldn't really make any sense to me

[Klick]

My only concern was that your ability is a One shot. Which I'm assuming it's not by how you are talking. That's my biggest concern with this game

Abilities in the source material(yes I know it) are usually

not

one-shot. I'll explain later. For now please follow the instructions.

From what I've learnes about the lore. I believe this

For clarity sake.

I am human.

Elmo's town

could you like

please walk me through what town thought process

you are detecting from elmo in 304

?

like to me

sure from source material not all abilities one-shot

yup sure

i am human yup again sure standard response

but why do you think this comes from town!elmo specifically like what thoughts do you think elmo is having that brings this together into, oh look a town! ya know

Why do you assume that post specifically is the reason I think Elmo is town
Elmo posted quite a few times in a short space

[Klick]

If Enchant's claim is fake, he decided to CC Engineer in 1 minute 26 seconds
I'm of the opinion that that's not enough time for him to have confidently decided to CC if it's fake

...unless Enchant made that decision before I claimed.

Nah I don't think Enchant did that.

i mean, enchant was actively thinking about claims long before the game even started

viewtopic.php?p=13558956#p13558956

how are you weighing the likelihood here

This is a fair point and does make me less certain!

[shiki]

Why do you assume that post specifically is the reason I think Elmo is town
Elmo posted quite a few times in a short space

i assumed due to you having replied to other things between the other elmo posts and 304 but my appreciation for the time aspect may be lacking due to my having not been here in realtime;

which of the posts do you think demonstrated a town thought process then and could you explain that town thought process to me?

[Klick]

Gimme a sec to get in the house and I'll respond to that properly

[Not Known 15]

also i am not sure what not known 15 is even asking us to do with regards to character ability anymore,

I have used it already...

I don't believe you.

Doesn't matter. Quote my post, and affirm. Now.

like are we supposed to be saying

'i am human' as i first assumed

or are we meant to be saying

'state you're human' as scoliosis then did

which, uh, wouldn't really make any sense to me

That what you assumed first.

[Klick]

1. Engineer (Cop)
2. Guardian Angel (Doctor)
3. Doctor (Coroner)
4. Guard Duty (Mason)
5. Guard Duty (Mason)
6. Crewmate (VT)
7. Crewmate (VT)
8. Crewmate (VT)
9. Crewmate (VT)
10. Crewmate (VT)
11. Gnosia (Mafia Goon)
12. Gnosia (Mafia Goon)
13. Gnosia (Mafia Goon)
14. AC Follower (Mafia Traitor)
15. Bug (Anti-Social Survivor)

I'm only quoting this so I understand the setup for this game.

I really don't see the logic behind it.

There are three groups trying to win in this game. Presumably, each group has some percentage of victory.

If we kill off one of the groups, then logic dictates that the chance of victory goes up for the other two groups.

Although, I need to reconsider my proposal - I did not know how the Bug's victory condition worked until shiki explained it to me.

I'm sorry in advance I'm bouncing around this thread.

FakeGod is town. I'm sorry there's not, a way around this. If they are scum then gg but this post sets it up.

I thought these two posts were both very towny

I think 296 demonstrates that Elmo hasn't thought about the setup much prior to this. I believe Elmo is quoting that because she is actually using that to start from scratch in her thinking about the setup. I believe if Elmo were scum, there'd be a scum PT to use for that instead/there'd likely already be sufficient discussion there that she'd not need to do this. I understand that this is

easy

to fake, but I don't think posting this is the likely route Elmo takes if she were actually scum. (I have a fairly large amount of experience with Elmo, and although it was years ago I feel like I had a grasp of Elmo's playstyle/thought process and a lot of that is transferable. I don't think Elmo's the type of person who thinks 'oh I'll feign setup ignorance because that'll make it seem like I know less than I do as scum'.)

I buy Elmo's FakeGod townread, I can see how she came to that conclusion and I don't think it's the kind of read she feels the need to share as scum.

[shiki]

I thought these two posts were both very towny

I think 296 demonstrates that Elmo hasn't thought about the setup much prior to this. I believe Elmo is quoting that because she is actually using that to start from scratch in her thinking about the setup. I believe if Elmo were scum, there'd be a scum PT to use for that instead/there'd likely already be sufficient discussion there that she'd not need to do this. I understand that this is easy to fake, but I don't think posting this is the likely route Elmo takes if she were actually scum. (I have a fairly large amount of experience with Elmo, and although it was years ago I feel like I had a grasp of Elmo's playstyle/thought process and a lot of that is transferable. I don't think Elmo's the type of person who thinks 'oh I'll feign setup ignorance because that'll make it seem like I know less than I do as scum'.)

I buy Elmo's FakeGod townread, I can see how she came to that conclusion and I don't think it's the kind of read she feels the need to share as scum.

hmhmhm

eh setup stuff

it is like,

such an easy entry point for mafia because applies regardless of alignment

but that's probably why i also shrugged at elmo's fakegod read because it is like, definitely not something i thought was particularly towny so it seemed so strange to me for elmo to say 'if fakegod scum gg' ya know

but i am also lacking the familiarity with elmo that you've stated you have,

so, hm

[JunkoChan]

aight shiki is town

*leaves without explaining why like Klick does until questioned*

[Klick]

I feel like people often get caught up in how

easy

something is to fake to the neglect of considering how likely a scum is to

choose

to fake something

I think there's a ton of scumhunting potential in figuring out what kind of people players are, how they're likely to make decisions, especially because lots of people have a much narrower range of behaviour than is usually expected when playing Mafia

But like, that's just my opinion, man

[Klick]

aight shiki is town

*leaves without explaining why like Klick does until questioned*

I could see shiki being town yeah

[shiki]

I feel like people often get caught up in how

easy

something is to fake to the neglect of considering how likely a scum is to

choose

to fake something

I think there's a ton of scumhunting potential in figuring out what kind of people players are, how they're likely to make decisions, especially because lots of people have a much narrower range of behaviour than is usually expected when playing Mafia

But like, that's just my opinion, man

well i am not familiar enough with elmo to try to figure out what kind of player elmo is,

nor do i think that would be something i would be particularly good at and so forth,

but i do know that scums often are looking for like, entry points into the game

like a way for them to post and such and that that is a fairly common one

[JunkoChan]

Page 9 I'm that behind I'll read later something about this game does feel really odd though. Especially the ccs

I really hate this post to be honest

"something about this game does feel really odd. Especially the ccs"

this is fees lamist, robotic, performative and what not to me