Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Firebringer]

My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.

Scoliosis is obviously town and i'm starting to scumread you

What a bad skitter post.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bruh if i was actually mafia you'd be sitting in my pocket happily munching poketreats while i told you what a good boy you are.

[Firebringer]

im only like 4-5 pages into my read of day 1 here and im already like scoiliosis needs to go.
Idk if that means pooky is good and im wrong. Lets keep reading and see where i go.

[Firebringer]

is kittytacky still alive.
Obvious town there.

[Firebringer]

Hello Firebringer. Your slot was... deflated.

Hope you're easier to read than Dann.

Ohhh I just talked to u. Hi, i think ur very strong town. Sorry for literally just forgetting about you..

[Firebringer]

bruh if i was actually mafia you'd be sitting in my pocket happily munching poketreats while i told you what a good boy you are.

i refuse to townread u for the rest of the game till u give me treats then.

[Firebringer]

so like unwnd/testarossa/geraintm for my hip shoot 360 no scope page 7 scum team solve

Wow my predecessor was boring. dann what were u even doing

[innocentvillager]

Firebringer let me know if you think Scoli/Pooky are plausibly scum together. Or if theyre both scummy or what ur stance on them in general is

[Firebringer]

Okay im at page 15 general vibes for reads go something like this:
{Toto, Detective Firebringer}
{Kitty} Uber town
{Ydra/Churh, Unwnd}
{InnocentVillager}
{Herta, Val89, Freedom) - This is my idk. Should i have opinions on these people on page 15.
{pooky} -- actually got nothing from testerossa if looking at that slot alone would be in the null pile.
{skitter}
{Scoliosis} Intro to the scum pushing on skitter just looks like a buss push. Reeks of it. Skitter reaction not helping it. I think i want to read those pages it was on again in more detail tomorrow or something after caught up.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer let me know if you think Scoli/Pooky are plausibly scum together. Or if theyre both scummy or what ur stance on them in general is

dont have a stance on their interactions together at moment. I guess the point i made earlier about pooky trying to piss of scolio would say that they aren't aligned? Or less likely. Or maybe pooky is just pissing of teammate on purpose. Maybe it does mean pooky town if scoli flips scum. Idk man. Too tired.

[Firebringer]

I am going to try to read about 15-20 pages every twenty four hours to catch up. So i am done for the night. Cya tomorrow when i get to 30-45 pages into this game.

[skitter30]

if anything I'd actually expect Scol's teammates to be on Scol's wagon because it

looks better

in post analysis? If we flip them both and Scol is S and Gera T then the natural push targets on D3 would be the Gera wagon.

Conversely if Scol does go through on D1 - there's no reason why Gera wouldn't be following him on D2 with the way he refused to vote for Scol.

I still don't really think scoli is scum tbh

I would be interested in anything you can give on Scol (when you feel recovered) given that he is the Most Popular Wagon.

I dont think he's flipping scum
He's too disconnected from the rest of the game and too many people want to flip him. Who are his partners even?

[skitter30]

I semi vibed with the “Val’s random scumread on me feels a bit stilted” but maybe it’s just because he thinks so radically differently from me so I’m willing to chalk the ping off aa a mere playstyle diff

I feel like he's reaching a little too much

[skitter30]

The main thing that stops me from wanting Scol is just how absolutely dead the gamestate was at EOD. gera was likely to go through but not at all certain. If Scol was scum I would've expected more activity/more urgency from both Scol and his team to move towards gera.

Agreed

Again, why would he be urgent if a townie essentially jumped onto the gallows and hanged himself? He was in no danger as long as gera didn't claim and kept being stubborn.

A little earlier on, before the whole not claim thing, it wasnf obvious who was going to get flipped and nobody was particularly trying to save scoli

[innocentvillager]

I probably reach more as town tbf, you think its a scumtell?

[skitter30]

I dont really associate reaching with town at all

[innocentvillager]

if anything I'd actually expect Scol's teammates to be on Scol's wagon because it

looks better

in post analysis? If we flip them both and Scol is S and Gera T then the natural push targets on D3 would be the Gera wagon.

Conversely if Scol does go through on D1 - there's no reason why Gera wouldn't be following him on D2 with the way he refused to vote for Scol.

I still don't really think scoli is scum tbh

I would be interested in anything you can give on Scol (when you feel recovered) given that he is the Most Popular Wagon.

I dont think he's flipping scum
He's too disconnected from the rest of the game and too many people want to flip him. Who are his partners even?

You and/or people just bussing him cuz hes not that defendable rn idk

Pooky also suggested unwnd might be a reasonable partner based on his wagon pushes (ive no strong opinion just summarizing)

[innocentvillager]

I dont really associate reaching with town at all

I reach more as town because I am more creative and bizarre in my thought processes, as scum I want to be more logical/make sense/have a sensible explanation ready for everything I do (or at least try/post in a similar tone to my towngame)

What is the scum agenda behind Val scumreading me? He doesnt genuinely think hes going to start a real wagon on me so why does he feel the need to reach to sus me?

[skitter30]

I really can't imagine making my entire game as scum here abt trying to defend the guy that is p obviously gonna get flipped at some point

Why is scum-me doing that again?

I still think unwnd is scummy but he doesnt make sense as a scoli partner imo, he jumped on that wagon eay too fast when pooky repped in

[innocentvillager]

do you think Scoli’s recent behavior has been townie/not scummy

[innocentvillager]

Scol did the same thing yesterday when I started expressing suspicion on him. That’s two examples of seeing Scol’s read on someone change once he gets scumread (me at eod1, and now with KittyTacky). Looks a little bit sus to me.

Idk Pooky and Scol both feel kind of scummy today, Scol’s scumminess sort of started yesterday

I kinda doubt it’s SvS though? I mean maybe? But unlikely

I think I want to vote in these two slots today so I’m interested in how this fight develops.

Yeah I hate to break it to you (not really, I love it) but I'm expecting you to carry this game and I'm not intending on fighting it out with my scum reads. I feel like you've come close to solving this game two or three times now and I feel like I'm potentially throwing you off trail with my stinky "scumminess." I don't know what to say other than that it isn't me, I swear.

Why are you pandering to me instead of casing the others? Your mindset doesn’t really make sense.

It seems like you’ve literally “solved the game” but are just sitting back and going “lol pooks u scum and it’s not me I promise haha figure it out!” like what

I’m obviously conflicted on who’s scum and it seems like you’re not. Saying I’ve come close to “solving the game” feels like you know more than me. If you’re town I don’t know why in your right mind you would tell ME to be the one carrying. I’m just very concerned about the way you’re handling this day

No that’s not really what I’m saying

If he’s an overconfident Townie that’s fine, that by itself isn’t necessarily sus?

I’m saying that the way he handled it by lol catting Pooky and then pandering to me with those posts is not the mindset that I think an overconfident Townie takes

This feels like someone who is tired of playing scum and wants to lazily lolcat and have fun rather than actually try to fake a nuanced town process which I’m sure Scol is very capable of

Like why is he appealing to me to solve the game if he thinks he already has and refuses to “fight” his scumreads Kitty skitter and Pooky it just makes zero sense to me

As a recap here are some of my issues with scol

[KittyTacky]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

[innocentvillager]

Idk scol’s last post just felt very “agenda-y” and not really like real human thoughts trying to solve a game. It felt like I was listening to someone at a debate round

But I’m also play and think very differently from him so idk

It feels like some of us think gera was as good as dead and some of us thinking gera wasnt

Just an interpretation of events thing, sigh, I may have to reread

I wish it was a little less ambiguous I suppose and that the gamestate read could be more solid, because if we can only really agree on the time before geraint said he wouldnt claim as town!indicative for SCol, not sure im convinced rn

[innocentvillager]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

Can you elaborate on your Pooky townread? Do you have prior experience with Pooky?

[innocentvillager]

I dont really associate reaching with town at all

I reach more as town because I am more creative and bizarre in my thought processes, as scum I want to be more logical/make sense/have a sensible explanation ready for everything I do (or at least try/post in a similar tone to my towngame)

What is the scum agenda behind Val scumreading me? He doesnt genuinely think hes going to start a real wagon on me so why does he feel the need to reach to sus me?

Actually nvm Val is like me where he just posts whatever he thinks town!him would post unless its hurting his wincon