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Post Post #7325 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:43 pm

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T-Bone, when you received a message saying you were burned, was it clear that your message wasn't from the mod?

If this breaks site rules, just ignore ig.
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Post Post #7326 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:43 pm

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In post 7323, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7316, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 7311, T-Bone wrote:We meant at this day start.
I meant after noon 1

why there's no 2 people with a message about burns?

if solar was thinking this far ahead they deserve rat's head imo
In post 7317, JunkoChan wrote:@PPF when? where?
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Post Post #7327 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:44 pm

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In post 7325, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:T-Bone, when you received a message saying you were burned, was it clear that your message wasn't from the mod?

If this breaks site rules, just ignore ig.
It was exactly how it was written in Porkens'role flip.
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Post Post #7328 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:45 pm

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Which is exactly how it's written in my role PM, and the PM stating I got burned last night.
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Post Post #7329 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:46 pm

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In post 7320, JunkoChan wrote:I remember you had like some mechanical way to confirm yourself today or something like that
No, I said that our role is only confirmable at death. I think I explained that already.
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Post Post #7330 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:47 pm

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In post 7329, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7320, JunkoChan wrote:I remember you had like some mechanical way to confirm yourself today or something like that
No, I said that our role is only confirmable at death. I think I explained that already.
I was missremembering then, my bad
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Post Post #7331 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:48 pm

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so

Meuh checked PPF atunment
DDS illuminated PPF so they can verify Meuh's target
PPF claims being targeted by Meuh

correct?
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Post Post #7332 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:48 pm

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They claimed beloved princess. Allegedly if they die we skip a talking phase basically.
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Post Post #7333 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:49 pm

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In post 7330, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 7329, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7320, JunkoChan wrote:I remember you had like some mechanical way to confirm yourself today or something like that
No, I said that our role is only confirmable at death. I think I explained that already.
I was missremembering then, my bad
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Post Post #7334 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:49 pm

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In post 7331, JunkoChan wrote:so

Meuh checked PPF atunment
DDS illuminated PPF so they can verify Meuh's target
PPF claims being targeted by Meuh

correct?
Yes.
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Post Post #7335 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:52 pm

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In post 7331, JunkoChan wrote:so

Meuh checked PPF atunment
DDS illuminated PPF so they can verify Meuh's target
PPF claims being targeted by Meuh

correct?
Which also precludes a combination of them being scum together, as I don't think we are working against groups larger than three. We only have one unknown solar left in that case. Unless I'm misunderstanding it would take the three of them working together to fake the interaction, so we at least know DDS' role works exactly as claimed.
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Post Post #7336 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:54 pm

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In post 7335, T-Bone wrote:
In post 7331, JunkoChan wrote:so

Meuh checked PPF atunment
DDS illuminated PPF so they can verify Meuh's target
PPF claims being targeted by Meuh

correct?
Which also precludes a combination of them being scum together, as I don't think we are working against groups larger than three. We only have one unknown solar left in that case. Unless I'm misunderstanding it would take the three of them working together to fake the interaction, so we at least know DDS' role works exactly as claimed.
well I think I can theorycraft the scenarios
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Post Post #7337 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:58 pm

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In post 7242, MegAzumarill wrote:
Porkens was eliminated. Their role was
Spoiler:
Solar Hypnotist

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During the noon phase, you may target a player and give them one of the following messages at the end of the noon phase. These messages have no other effect.
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."
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I may not know much about Mech but the very fact that Porkens’ role exists, implies Solar is likely to have a burn mechanic no?
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Post Post #7338 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:00 pm

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In post 7337, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7242, MegAzumarill wrote:
Porkens was eliminated. Their role was
Spoiler:
Solar Hypnotist

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You are a
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During the noon phase, you may target a player and give them one of the following messages at the end of the noon phase. These messages have no other effect.
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."
REDACTED

You win when your faction makes up half of the living players, and no members of the Lunar Cult are alive.


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Deadline: (expired on 2022-12-11 23:41:37)
I may not know much about Mech but the very fact that Porkens’ role exists, implies Solar is likely to have a burn mechanic no?
so they have a fake burner and a burner?
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Post Post #7339 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:01 pm

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In post 7338, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 7337, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7242, MegAzumarill wrote:
Porkens was eliminated. Their role was
Spoiler:
Solar Hypnotist

Spoiler: Role PM
You are a
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During the noon phase, you may target a player and give them one of the following messages at the end of the noon phase. These messages have no other effect.
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."
REDACTED

You win when your faction makes up half of the living players, and no members of the Lunar Cult are alive.


Noon 2 begins! Send me anything you might do!

Deadline: (expired on 2022-12-11 23:41:37)
I may not know much about Mech but the very fact that Porkens’ role exists, implies Solar is likely to have a burn mechanic no?
so they have a fake burner and a burner?
and a faction kill since they killed math this noon
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Post Post #7340 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:03 pm

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also there's still that "thing" that targeted Meuh that wasn't a "burn" cuyz she got no message about it that I remember, a roleblock or kill, wasn't that also during noon?
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Post Post #7341 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:04 pm

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In post 4307, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I have role-related knowledge that someone either tried to kill Meuh
or
used a negative utility action on her during the “Noon” phase
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Post Post #7342 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:04 pm

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In post 7340, JunkoChan wrote:also there's still that "thing" that targeted Meuh that wasn't a "burn" cuyz she got no message about it that I remember, a roleblock or kill, wasn't that also during noon?
It was, yes. Most likely it was a kill attempt since the burn is accounted for on T-Bone, and she didn't claim to have received any fake messages.
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Post Post #7343 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:05 pm

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And she claimed to get a result, so roleblocking isn't likely, since even as scum I think you'd just be truthful about that than risk making up a result
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Post Post #7344 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:05 pm

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In post 7342, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 7340, JunkoChan wrote:also there's still that "thing" that targeted Meuh that wasn't a "burn" cuyz she got no message about it that I remember, a roleblock or kill, wasn't that also during noon?
It was, yes. Most likely it was a kill attempt since the burn is accounted for on T-Bone, and she didn't claim to have received any fake messages.
and she didn't die because?
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Post Post #7345 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:08 pm

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In post 7344, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 7342, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 7340, JunkoChan wrote:also there's still that "thing" that targeted Meuh that wasn't a "burn" cuyz she got no message about it that I remember, a roleblock or kill, wasn't that also during noon?
It was, yes. Most likely it was a kill attempt since the burn is accounted for on T-Bone, and she didn't claim to have received any fake messages.
and she didn't die because?
Don't know. But Math dying shows Solar DOES have the ability to kill, and no one else did.
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Post Post #7346 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:09 pm

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is there any doctor in the cosmos?
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Post Post #7347 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:10 pm

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If there is, they definitely shouldn't say so.
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Post Post #7348 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:10 pm

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In post 7337, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7242, MegAzumarill wrote:
Porkens was eliminated. Their role was
Spoiler:
Solar Hypnotist

Spoiler: Role PM
You are a
Solar Hypnotist


During the noon phase, you may target a player and give them one of the following messages at the end of the noon phase. These messages have no other effect.
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."
REDACTED

You win when your faction makes up half of the living players, and no members of the Lunar Cult are alive.


Noon 2 begins! Send me anything you might do!

Deadline: (expired on 2022-12-11 23:41:37)
I may not know much about Mech but the very fact that Porkens’ role exists, implies Solar is likely to have a burn mechanic no?
No. This role was designed to make us think they had an arsonist, and so that the person with this role could toss out fake messages. There are no burns or a burn mechanic.
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Post Post #7349 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:11 pm

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In post 7338, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 7337, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7242, MegAzumarill wrote:
Porkens was eliminated. Their role was
Spoiler:
Solar Hypnotist

Spoiler: Role PM
You are a
Solar Hypnotist


During the noon phase, you may target a player and give them one of the following messages at the end of the noon phase. These messages have no other effect.
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."
REDACTED

You win when your faction makes up half of the living players, and no members of the Lunar Cult are alive.


Noon 2 begins! Send me anything you might do!

Deadline: (expired on 2022-12-11 23:41:37)
I may not know much about Mech but the very fact that Porkens’ role exists, implies Solar is likely to have a burn mechanic no?
so they have a fake burner and a burner?
I’m saying that I think it would be kind of strange that his role exists if a burn mechanic doesn’t. Why wouldn’t his role just say kills then instead of burns? Why burns specifically?

That said, I’m extremely skeptical of RR’s claim regardless.
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