Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[furtiveglance]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

So you're voting for me out of annoyance

Weird take from someone who's saying others are throwing

I think your air of doom is a scum tactic

[furtiveglance]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

I don't think Freedom is scum and I'm not

[Lukewarm]

MUDCLAW

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THE DARK FOREST

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[The Dark Forest]

You are a member of the Dark Forest, which seeks to eradicate the Clans and StarClan alike. The Dark Forest PT may be accessed here.

[WindClan]

You are a member of WindClan. You may access the WindClan PT here.

[Apprentice]

You begin the game as the apprentice Mudpaw. Any abilities that you may have will not be usable until you receive your warrior ceremony.

[Intimidation Tactics]

Tallstar picked a weak leader to rule WindClan after his death – and you won’t stand for it, or anyone who agrees with his choice. Once a night, you may target a cat. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn that cat's role. You have three uses of this ability.

You and all other members of the Dark Forest win when 50% parity with all living protectors of StarClan has been reached.

Please confirm your role and alignment via PM.[/align]

BREEZEPELT

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THE DARK FOREST

[The Dark Forest]

You are a member of the Dark Forest, which seeks to eradicate the Clans and StarClan alike. The Dark Forest PT may be accessed here.

[WindClan]

You are a member of WindClan. You may access the WindClan PT here.

[Apprentice]

You begin the game as the apprentice Breezepaw. Any abilities that you may have will not be usable until you receive your warrior ceremony.

[Whispers of Hate]

Your father’s secrets haunt you. Your secrets will prove your worth. During the night, you may target a cat. Assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will anonymously send that cat a message of your choice (specified when you submit this action).

You and all other members of the Dark Forest win when 50% parity with all living protectors of StarClan has been reached.

Please confirm your role and alignment via PM.[/align]

REDWILLOW

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THE DARK FOREST

[The Dark Forest]

You are a member of the Dark Forest, which seeks to eradicate the Clans and StarClan alike. The Dark Forest PT may be accessed here.

[ShadowClan]

You are a member of ShadowClan. You may access the ShadowClan PT here.

[Apprentice]

You begin the game as the apprentice Redpaw. Any abilities that you may have will not be usable until you receive your warrior ceremony.

[Bramble Nests]

Your training with other Clans taught you a few new tricks. On odd nights, any actions that target you, other than kills, will fail as if roleblocked.

[Belly Rake]

The Dark Forest refuses to train with sheathed claws. On even nights, you may target a cat. Assuming no interference with your action, that cat's active abilities will be blocked that night.

You and all other members of the Dark Forest win when 50% parity with all living protectors of StarClan has been reached.

Please confirm your role and alignment via PM.[/align]

[Lukewarm]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

I don't think Freedom is scum and I'm not

I am not asking about your read on anyone.

I am asking about set up spec

[furtiveglance]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

I don't think Freedom is scum and I'm not

I am not asking about your read on anyone.

I am asking about set up spec

Why should there be a scum Leader? Do you really think it's too townsided to have all town deciding who can become PR?

[Lukewarm]

HAWKFROST

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THE DARK FOREST

[The Dark Forest]

You are a member of the Dark Forest, which seeks to eradicate the Clans and StarClan alike. The Dark Forest PT may be accessed here.

[RiverClan]

You are a member of RiverClan. You may access the RiverClan PT here.

[Apprentice]

You begin the game as the apprentice Hawkpaw. Any abilities that you may have will not be usable until you receive your warrior ceremony.

[Enforcer of the Dark Forest]

Your father, Tigerstar, was strong in the right ways. He’s taught you well. Should you perform the factional nightkill for the Dark Forest, it will become unstoppable and be unable to be blocked by any other means. You have two uses of this ability.

You and all other members of the Dark Forest win when 50% parity with all living protectors of StarClan has been reached.

Please confirm your role and alignment via PM.[/align]

[Lukewarm]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

I don't think Freedom is scum and I'm not

I am not asking about your read on anyone.

I am asking about set up spec

Why should there be a scum Leader? Do you really think it's too townsided to have all town deciding who can become PR?

I am asking you your opinion on the matter lol

[the worst]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

more, but [fart noise]

[the worst]

starclandammit let the record show i tried to engage with furtive

[Cephrir]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

i honestly have some trouble squaring how the setup is balanced with scum in the council, but did we ever get another explanation for the kittytacky kill? i forget

[Cephrir]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

So you're voting for me out of annoyance

Weird take from someone who's saying others are throwing

I think your air of doom is a scum tactic

cool

why?

[Lukewarm]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

i honestly have some trouble squaring how the setup is balanced with scum in the council, but did we ever get another explanation for the kittytacky kill? i forget

Why do you think that it would be less balanced that way?

[furtiveglance]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

I don't think Freedom is scum and I'm not

I am not asking about your read on anyone.

I am asking about set up spec

Why should there be a scum Leader? Do you really think it's too townsided to have all town deciding who can become PR?

I am asking you your opinion on the matter lol

Town can get stuff wrong so yeah it's still balanced

[furtiveglance]

starclandammit let the record show i tried to engage with furtive

Have I missed your question or something? How am I not engaging T_T

[furtiveglance]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

So you're voting for me out of annoyance

Weird take from someone who's saying others are throwing

I think your air of doom is a scum tactic

cool

why?

Just seems easy to do

[the worst]

furtive glance is such an aptly selected username i literally can't tell if this is scummy evasiveness or just, like, vagueness as a personality trait combined with *waves at 217 pages of migraine*

[the worst]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

i'm concerned this is more of a tonal issue than a game solving issue, and i think cephrir (plus probably you) can be engaged by, like, communicating with whole real sentences and shit.

i find it really hard to align myself with your view of "scum have folded, ergo the second-lowest energy player [let us not forget SS] is scum" when, like
scum have shown nothing but effort and intent to win this game

junko self-voting means there's a slightly >rand chance that scum was already on her wagon. that's all. self-voting because you think you're going to lose is getting eerily close to "playing against wincon" space and i don't think it's responsible to solve on the basis that scum got to f9 and abandoned their wincon.

i'm not even sure that you're scum if i'm being brutally honest?? i just can't align myself with your world view at all and that means you're either defeated scum or lowkey a liability



sorry this post is really harsh. if you are town & can like, just press a couple of levels deeper and un-tunnel on cephrir i think town is drastically more likely to win this game. you can still scumread cephrir, if you want. but i need something other than your disjointed gamestate read if that's real.

not really a question but i did explain why i'm finding it hard to get anything out of our interactions. i was sort of hoping this might be a call to reevaluate or something.

[furtiveglance]

furtive glance is such an aptly selected username i literally can't tell if this is scummy evasiveness or just, like, vagueness as a personality trait combined with *waves at 217 pages of migraine*

[the worst]

[Cephrir]

@Everyone

Can everyone please take a moment to tell me your thoughts, given this set up, if it makes more or less sense for there to be scum in the council?

i honestly have some trouble squaring how the setup is balanced with scum in the council, but did we ever get another explanation for the kittytacky kill? i forget

Why do you think that it would be less balanced that way?

what is to stop scum from shooting every significant source of town power

[Cephrir]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

So you're voting for me out of annoyance

Weird take from someone who's saying others are throwing

I think your air of doom is a scum tactic

cool

why?

Just seems easy to do

how does that make it a scum tactic

[furtiveglance]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

i'm concerned this is more of a tonal issue than a game solving issue, and i think cephrir (plus probably you) can be engaged by, like, communicating with whole real sentences and shit.

i find it really hard to align myself with your view of "scum have folded, ergo the second-lowest energy player [let us not forget SS] is scum" when, like
scum have shown nothing but effort and intent to win this game

junko self-voting means there's a slightly >rand chance that scum was already on her wagon. that's all. self-voting because you think you're going to lose is getting eerily close to "playing against wincon" space and i don't think it's responsible to solve on the basis that scum got to f9 and abandoned their wincon.

i'm not even sure that you're scum if i'm being brutally honest?? i just can't align myself with your world view at all and that means you're either defeated scum or lowkey a liability



sorry this post is really harsh. if you are town & can like, just press a couple of levels deeper and un-tunnel on cephrir i think town is drastically more likely to win this game. you can still scumread cephrir, if you want. but i need something other than your disjointed gamestate read if that's real.

not really a question but i did explain why i'm finding it hard to get anything out of our interactions. i was sort of hoping this might be a call to reevaluate or something.

You're just roasting me

The thing about gamestate was just an idea, it could be wrong

I said, it could be you, Cephrir or S_S. I'm voting Cephrir because I find them scummy at the moment. I don't think I'm tunnelled, I voted your slot yesterday and re-evaluated after the cw flipped scum.

[furtiveglance]

Actually, I see you mean because he voted Dann first.

But like. Bell's solve was Dann + junko

Still realistic, theworst could just be efforting as scum. But I'm sick of Cephrir's air of doom

So you're voting for me out of annoyance

Weird take from someone who's saying others are throwing

I think your air of doom is a scum tactic

cool

why?

Just seems easy to do

how does that make it a scum tactic

idk it's like a gimmick to try and earn pity?

[the worst]

hardclaim libra but my reads this hour are like,

tw
lukewarm
cephrir
freedom
ss
you

i don't see what you're seeing and i don't think cephrir makes sense as scum. i do think you're tunneled on that gamestate read, which is different from being tunneled on a single slot, but is similarly not very helpful for other people trying to solve the game.

i'm not really trying to roast you, just trying to highlight a flaw in our communication. can you explain to me why you're locktown on freedom?

[the worst]

idk it's like a gimmick to try and earn pity?

but like. when does this ever work.

do you think he's scum trying to use a pseudo-AtE strategy to win, or scum who's kind of abandoned winning and is just groaning his way through endgame?
those are two super different things