House of the Dragon - Game Over!

[fireisredsir]

explain why exactly it would be a good idea for town me to accept that challenge

hint you can't

[Lady Lambdadelta]

explain why exactly it would be a good idea for town me to accept that challenge

hint you can't

Well, because if you and I both think the other is scum, we get to solve an issue in a 30% chance to earn a free answer and info while still providing town with another elimination.

It's pro-town when the game's numbers are in our favour, and not when we begin to lose grip. With 2 scum dead, and enough information coming through and no nightkill last night, it makes plenty of sense to try and kill me and earn another elimination.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

explain why exactly it would be a good idea for town me to accept that challenge

hint you can't

explain why exactly it would be a good idea for town me to accept that challenge

hint you can't

Well, because if you and I both think the other is scum, we get to solve an issue in a 30% chance to earn a free answer and info while still providing town with another elimination.

It's pro-town when the game's numbers are in our favour, and not when we begin to lose grip. With 2 scum dead, and enough information coming through and no nightkill last night, it makes plenty of sense to try and kill me and earn another elimination.

I'm literally writing it but okay my dude.

Please continue to be as annoyingly self important as possible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We have enough power roles and information that the free tempo kill is precisely advantaged to us.

And as scum, it makes all the sense in the world you would set yourself as mechanically opposed to this mechanic so you can never be forced into it, but the truth is that at this point in the game accepting my duel is strictly pro-town to do, if you were indeed town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anyway, I'm out for a while.

[ProfessorDrapion]

i don't think the rest of the associatives are very good either

Yes but you're not town, as I've said before.

OML, tell that to Mastina.
Lol.

[ProfessorDrapion]

shouldn't u be challenging him to a duel if ur so certain LLD

I’d prefer me and Furtive do the duels today.

[Roden]

Dann, Owen, Datisi (Pending), GL (Pending), Enchant

ok, so you're asserting Datisi is scum on the council who no killed to become even deeper wolf so that he can... continue to be forced to clear town or guilty his buddies? brilliant

also your passionate defense of FB feels kinda white knighty lol

Yes, Datisi's Cop checks sure have been debilitating so far, like his...Mastina check, who was obvtown...or his Titus check, who was obvtown, and who he literally hard defended right up until somebody said "Titus scummy" in the council PT and single-handedly shifted his read on her...

Like did you miss the part where people were getting fed up with his bad checks and he was starting to gain suspicion

"Passionate defense" you mean the handful of posts explaining my town read on the dude who's said I'm in his PoE

[Roden]

shouldn't u be challenging him to a duel if ur so certain LLD

I’d prefer me and Furtive do the duels today.

I'd prefer if you engaged in a duel that muted you for the rest of the game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i don't think the rest of the associatives are very good either

Yes but you're not town, as I've said before.

OML, tell that to Mastina.
Lol.

Oh shit, before I go.

Is this Mastina's top townread?

ahahahahahahhahahaha

IT'S THE RULE

[ProfessorDrapion]

GL i will also passionately defend FB if it makes you feel better

i think roden is town here

Who do you think is wolf again?
Cause it ain’t me so idk what you have left?
I don’t think it’s Furtive tbh but even if you think it’s him who is the other 2?

[ProfessorDrapion]

i don't think the rest of the associatives are very good either

Yes but you're not town, as I've said before.

OML, tell that to Mastina.
Lol.

Oh shit, before I go.

Is this Mastina's top townread?

ahahahahahahhahahaha

IT'S THE RULE

Did you not read the PT?
Lol.

Mastina said they lock town all the council members.

[fireisredsir]

if i was the only one who thought you were scum, then yeah it might not be an awful idea to accept the challenge

however i am not, you are one of the likely choices for elimination today, and we're also waiting on a datisi cop result for which you were one of the main choices

im giving scum a 15% chance at the nightkill on the council that they weren't able to get last night for

if we have the power roles now why would we accelerate the game?

im pretty shit at mechanics so idk maybe it wouldn't hurt town that much but i just see zero reason to risk my own death here for a kill on someone who we're probably going to lim anyway

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if i was the only one who thought you were scum, then yeah it might not be an awful idea to accept the challenge

however i am not, you are one of the likely choices for elimination today, and we're also waiting on a datisi cop result for which you were one of the main choices

im giving scum a 15% chance at the nightkill on the council that they weren't able to get last night for

if we have the power roles now why would we accelerate the game?

im pretty shit at mechanics so idk maybe it wouldn't hurt town that much but i just see zero reason to risk my own death here for a kill on someone who we're probably going to lim anyway

The sudden backpedal into "I'm pretty shit at mechanics but I don't wanna die" is hilarious..

Honestly I PRAY I'm cop checked. That would be wonderful.

[fireisredsir]

GL i will also passionately defend FB if it makes you feel better

i think roden is town here

Who do you think is wolf again?
Cause it ain’t me so idk what you have left?
I don’t think it’s Furtive tbh but even if you think it’s him who is the other 2?

3 in you/furtive/LLD/GL

possible unowen after that. and yeet datisi at the day before elo, but i really don't think it's him here since he can't be the endgamer and i don't think he's playing in a way that contributes to scum being able to have one

[fireisredsir]

if i was the only one who thought you were scum, then yeah it might not be an awful idea to accept the challenge

however i am not, you are one of the likely choices for elimination today, and we're also waiting on a datisi cop result for which you were one of the main choices

im giving scum a 15% chance at the nightkill on the council that they weren't able to get last night for

if we have the power roles now why would we accelerate the game?

im pretty shit at mechanics so idk maybe it wouldn't hurt town that much but i just see zero reason to risk my own death here for a kill on someone who we're probably going to lim anyway

The sudden backpedal into "I'm pretty shit at mechanics but I don't wanna die" is hilarious..

Honestly I PRAY I'm cop checked. That would be wonderful.

im fairly sure im still mechanically correct in that it isn't worth it

why do we want to accelerate the game here? why do we want a chance at a council member dying when that it what scum clearly want?

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Dannflor

LLD is not a bad choice but I think Dannflor is easier to read

can i get your thought process behind this post and vote?

I want a King I would trust to be a skilled player if town

LLD is definitely skilled but my experience/impression of her is that she's the type of player who tunnels her scumreads and puts a ton of pressure on them to box them out of a game, and I think that's an easier playstyle to replicate as scum. If she does similar here and vigs a townie, it'd be hard for me to discern whether town!LLD was simply wrong or whether she's mafia

whereas town!Dann is a flexible player, he's very transparent about his thought processes and usually displays a ton of authenticity/paranoia as his reads change that I think is much harder to convincingly emulate as scum.

so I feel I would have an easier time sussing him out if he's mafia than LLD. frankly I also wanted to start an alternative wagon rather than just jump on the LLD train

in other news, I don't like 35 it gives me a LAMISTy vibe and this:

i do a lot of stressed tinfoil posting when i'm town in an important position.

and i don't think i'm capable of replicating that stressed tinfoil posting as scum.

kinda feels like bullshit to me? Give yourself credit you are a capable scum player and I don't see why you'd genuinely expect us to believe you couldn't handle being a scum King

See I don’t think GL as a wolf jumps into the day and slams a vote for their partner for king.
Doesn’t make sense to me.
GL I also think is town cause of VP.

since no one is directly campaigning and even though i would be a terrible king.
I will say if i am voted as King this is my council:

Me (King Firebringer first of his name)
Hand of the King - Thestatusquo
Master of Laws - Dannflor
Master of Ships - Lukewarm
Grand Maester - Datisi
Master of Coin - Andante
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard - Junkochan

I checked ops and it didn't even mention how many members are on the council. But it should have all those positions.

Interesting.
Firebringer ended up being right on this entire council since the start of the game when Shea was no where near to have been chosen as king.
Everyone Firebringer wanted is here.
However look at this Dannflor (-) Mastina
Dannflor was Wolf @Mastina look at that.

@Firebringer
Why did you chose Dannflor?

[fireisredsir]

See I don’t think GL as a wolf jumps into the day and slams a vote for their partner for king.
Doesn’t make sense to me.

yea i don't think scum would advance scum wincon. doesn't make sense to me

[ProfessorDrapion]

GL i will also passionately defend FB if it makes you feel better

i think roden is town here

Who do you think is wolf again?
Cause it ain’t me so idk what you have left?
I don’t think it’s Furtive tbh but even if you think it’s him who is the other 2?

3 in you/furtive/LLD/GL

possible unowen after that. and yeet datisi at the day before elo, but i really don't think it's him here since he can't be the endgamer and i don't think he's playing in a way that contributes to scum being able to have one

Yeet exactly Datsis?

Yeah no I am to the point I’m about to say that during the first couple day phases I was wrong to town read Firebringer and I’m right to be sus of them here and I’m thinking of challenging them to a duel.

[ProfessorDrapion]

You think Roden is more Townie then Dat?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Wait isn’t Enchant in this game?

[fireisredsir]

i think datisi as the cop has to die at some point in this game to verify the checks, regardless of my or anyone's read on him

[ProfessorDrapion]

See I don’t think GL as a wolf jumps into the day and slams a vote for their partner for king.
Doesn’t make sense to me.

yea i don't think scum would advance scum wincon. doesn't make sense to me

It would make themselves too obvious? If that makes sense.

Also again, same alignment as VP.

[ProfessorDrapion]

i think datisi as the cop has to die at some point in this game to verify the checks, regardless of my or anyone's read on him

That’s fair.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’ll hold off on the challenge for now until I get Dat’s Cop Check, but I have intent to challenge Firebringer.