Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[furtiveglance]

Am curious.

Are you against the idea of solving 4p that way in general, or because the suggested clear is me.

Want your thoughts more fully formed in thread please.

Ironically, I don't want to give my full thoughts because I don't want to tell Mafia what to do

[Cephrir]

i do want to tell mafia what to do: kill me

repent for your murderous ways by doing one good deed

[furtiveglance]

i do want to tell mafia what to do: kill me

repent for your murderous ways by doing one good deed

Do you want to no eliminate?

[Lukewarm]

Am curious.

Are you against the idea of solving 4p that way in general, or because the suggested clear is me.

Want your thoughts more fully formed in thread please.

Ironically, I don't want to give my full thoughts because I don't want to tell Mafia what to do

I mean, technically we have more then the 2 options I presented.

Like, confirming freedom instead of me.

And since you are not saying what about that original plan you don't like, I am not sure if you even considered that option.

Which is relevant for our planning for today

[Freedom]

Wait.
Luke, I just realised that there's a flaw to your plan.
I'll talk more about it in our hood.
(Assuming that the hood is still remaining, because Ydra didn't lock it.)

[furtiveglance]

Am curious.

Are you against the idea of solving 4p that way in general, or because the suggested clear is me.

Want your thoughts more fully formed in thread please.

Ironically, I don't want to give my full thoughts because I don't want to tell Mafia what to do

I mean, technically we have more then the 2 options I presented.

Like, confirming freedom instead of me.

And since you are not saying what about that original plan you don't like, I am not sure if you even considered that option.

Which is relevant for our planning for today

I prefer f3 to f4 in general, more likely to vote out Mafia I think. Separately, I also don't really like your plan but maybe that's just because that's not how I've seen it done before

[Freedom]

furtive, can you expand on what you dislike?

[furtiveglance]

furtive, can you expand on what you dislike?

I refuse

I prefer not to speak

[Freedom]

furtive, can you expand on what you dislike?

I refuse

I prefer not to speak

I see.
Why?
Do you worry that scum can find a breaking strategy against Luke's plan?
I ran a few through Luke and he said that I don't understand mech.
He then explained his plan again and it feels like the only potential problem is if scum is the one who is given the chance to conftown themselves and they take advantage of Luke's plan.

[Freedom]

And you don't have to reply in this thread.
You could tell Luke and he could tell me.

[Lukewarm]

And you don't have to reply in this thread.
You could tell Luke and he could tell me.

Or even tell me, and tell me not to tell freedom lol

You do have an avenue to talk to me without talking to the rest of the thread.

[Lukewarm]

I prefer f3 to f4 in general, more likely to vote out Mafia I think. Separately, I also don't really like your plan but maybe that's just because that's not how I've seen it done before

I have seen it done a couple of times.

In general, it is only done if at 4p there is one player who is very likely to be town, and also very likely to be the night kill. Therefore, moving from 4p->3p only serves to knock that person out of the discussion.

So, basically "I think that all 3 other players are reasonably in the PoE still" means that you move from 4p-3p, and force the scum to chose someone in the PoE to kill, and you get to analyze that kill choice.

If on the other hand, most players are fairly confident one of them is the obvious night kill, doing so does not help much. You don't really learn much if "the widely town read, and obvious night kill" was killed. That is when you can consider doing the path I just suggested.

[furtiveglance]

I just prefer final 3

[Lukewarm]

Just as a heads up to the thread, this is my game plan for how to handle this game from here on, because I will be in the hospital December 23-28th.

If we decided to confirm town me: we can go about our business as normal, and start digging in for the long haul here in the thread.

If we instead decide to go for the no kill, and I am killed: I will do as much back reading as I can over the night, and give my final guess to Freedom in our hood, so he can carry it forward if I am night killed.

If we decide to go for the night kill, and instead I am not killed: I will likely Vote near the start of the final day, and we all just have to hope I figured it out over the night, because I won't have time to actually discuss. [So, If I am wrong, we will lose very quickly. If I am right, then the last scum gets to argue that I am scum this game, and the last town gets to decide from there]

[Lukewarm]

If we are not going to do the elim today, then we should probably no elim by end of day tomorrow at the latest

[Lukewarm]

@Ceph, what do you think between solving in 4p vs solving in 3p this game?

[Freedom]

If we are not going to do the elim today, then we should probably no elim by end of day tomorrow at the latest

Got that.

[Cephrir]

my gut decision is to no lim so i can focus on one of luke/freedom to be paranoid about

[furtiveglance]

my gut decision is to no lim so i can focus on one of luke/freedom to be paranoid about

Just vote then. I feel like the less said the better. As I said before, no death feels the most likely to me anyway

[Lukewarm]

That does not seem very likely to me tbh

[Lukewarm]

It seems like a weird balance in your head to simultaneously think "I don't like the kill someone in 4p option, so lets no elim" but also "if we no kill, the most likely outcome is for the scum to not do the night kill"

[Lukewarm]

@freedom, did either you or furtive vote to give ceph the warrior ceremony?

[Cephrir]

on the other hand i think our chances of winning with a known town luke are dramatically better

[Lukewarm]

*blushes*

[Lukewarm]

@freedom, did either you or furtive vote to give ceph the warrior ceremony?

@Furtive, you can also answer this. Not sure why I @'ed that to just freedom lol