House of the Dragon Spec Chat

[RH9]

I think that it would be interesting if one of the Mafia get made King.

[RH9]

I think that there's scum in the Council.

[RH9]

Drapion wildly does not understand the mechanics of this game lmao

Tbf si not easy to remember every detail

It is less that he doesn't understand, as much as he is confidently declaring that everyone should follow his plan

While his plan is... not remotely valid at any step lmao

That sounds inline from what I remember of his usual play.

[RH9]

I think that Firebringer is Town because of 2616.

[RH9]

@Luke for obvious reasons I can't answer but do you think my slot was Town or scum?

Same question for RH9

I think that you were Town based of what I read.

[RH9]

I think that I just got convinced that GL is scum.

[RH9]

I think that Penguin is also Town.

[RH9]

I agree.

[RH9]

Happy scumday, Junko!

[RH9]

Wait.
Luke, are you part of a secret PT?

[RH9]

Hi, Math!

[RH9]

I just realised that scum has been NKing every single Town Tracker.
One would think that they're trying to get a scum Tracker.

[RH9]

I guess it’s possible but for that theory true there’d have to be no scum on the council which I don’t really buy.

This is a good point.
I think that there's definitely at least one scum in the Council.

[RH9]

I agree.

[RH9]

Andres is the only one I kinda TR at points.

Me too.

[RH9]

Spec Chat Championship Series: Game of Thrones Edition


One Shot: One Kill

Pick a player to kill - if they are mafia you receive 10 points - if they are town, you lose 5 points.

Can I pick GL?

[RH9]

I feel like you're right.

[RH9]

We have 2260 right now in the bank.

Now that a number has been said, I think fire should claim all gold numbers. Starting numbers, how much spent on investments each night, how much of a return they got.

Like, now that a hard number has been said, the big secret it kind if out imo, and he should out the whole accounting log to be scrutinized

I agree with you.

[RH9]

Imagine if there were no investments and he just made it all up to deny this town cop checks

you are evil bear

i mean he claimed n1 that he bought some brothels and night two that he bought some hookers. and now hes saying theres a wizard with a magic box. its p lit.

Wait.
Are there no wizards?

[RH9]

Imagine if there were no investments and he just made it all up to deny this town cop checks

you are evil bear

i mean he claimed n1 that he bought some brothels and night two that he bought some hookers. and now hes saying theres a wizard with a magic box. its p lit.

Seeing as how this is *not* what fire claimed, it does feel like what the mod gave fire as options and what options fire has told us do not align

(He claimed he got animals AND brothels both night 1, and claimed he was offered horse shoes for those horses and/or slaves for the brothels on night 2 (and he bought neither))

Tbf horses and horseshoes does sound more plausible than brothels and hookers.

Did Firebringer make up half of everything?

[RH9]

Are you feeling better from COVID?

[RH9]

I think Baltar is Town.

[RH9]

I should too.

[RH9]

GL seems less scummy.

[RH9]

Rh9 why do you think I died?

I think that it was because of your role.
Both because it was a likely threat to scum and that scum might've wanted to be selected as Tracker.

[RH9]

Rh9 why do you think I died?

I think that it was because of your role.
Both because it was a likely threat to scum and that scum might've wanted to be selected as Master of Whispers.

EBWOP

[RH9]

And probably also Grand Maester

[RH9]

Why? Any player town or scum has to be on the cop.

Maybe they want to NK Datisi, next?
Or Datisi is scum and scum can pretend to be on him?

[RH9]

I feel like you could be right.

[RH9]

So Shea is suggesting name Johnny doc then yeet Johnny …and Enchant rightfully called out Shea.

I think people are starting to put it together

Me too.

[RH9]

Poor Johnny.
I think that Shea is probably scum.

[RH9]

I am a bit sad though because I put Johnny in my scumpool and Firebringer in the Townblock.
And I don't TR Firebringer anymore and I ended up being wrong on Johnny.

[RH9]

I hope you're right.

[RH9]

What does inb4 stand for again?

[RH9]

Scum keeps on NKing the Tracker.

[RH9]

Me too.

[RH9]

Supporters thread is saying that firbringer has a past reputation of leaving dance games with their partner. Which would make the hesitancy to duel surprising

Are they talking about town!Firebringer's reputation?

[RH9]

Supporters thread is saying that firbringer has a past reputation of leaving dance games with their partner. Which would make the hesitancy to duel surprising

Are they talking about town!Firebringer's reputation?

Yeah

It is almost always against win con for a scum to leave a dance game

I see.

[RH9]

I think that Datisi is scum if he doesn't get NKed soon.

[RH9]

I thought that that's what people said about Squid Game.

[RH9]

I think that Macho Cop could've fixed things then.

[RH9]

I think that Macho Cop could've fixed things then.

Or that scum have a roleblocker or some counter device.

It’s the same problem as the normal I was in with the disloyal vig.

When scum have no counter it gets weird fast.

Was it schadd's one?

[RH9]

Wait.
Is Dwlee still the only flipped scum?

[RH9]

That's sad for Town.
It's 4 vs 10, meaning it only takes 3 more consecutive mislims for scum to win.

[RH9]

Or Town dying from duels.

[RH9]

I see.
I remember reading the postgame of it.

[RH9]

Datisi chainsawing for firebringer is doing nothing to stop me from thinking it's the two of them

You are probably right.

[RH9]

Why?

[RH9]

Why?

Because she hasn't been even playing the game since D1 and then blames everyone else for it. I hate that type of behavior in games.

I see.

[RH9]

Wait.
Is Firebringer openwolfing?

[RH9]

They should eliminate him, then.

[RH9]

True.

[RH9]

I think people default him to town the same way they default me to scum

I didn't feel like you were scummy, though.

[RH9]

True. But firebringer knows to bus before then, right?

And if it's only datisi, what the hell was he doing all game?

Maybe it's like drapion or something

Nah.
I think that Drapion is Town.

[RH9]

Challenge: Drapion

Accept

.....


I don't know if I would rather Pooky say this is not an acceptable challenge, or to read pooky's flavor of drapion fighting himself.

It would be enjoyable to read.

[RH9]

I feel like

"Scum!cop is scared that a tracker will plant themselves on them" is a pretty self contained explanation for most of this games kills lol

Me too.
It actually does explain why the Tracker never survived for long.

[RH9]

That could be possible.

[RH9]

Having to catch up with three different threads each with 8-20 new pages every time I logged on was just so fucking mentally taxing and kept me from being able to fully invest in the game.

you don't say

My sympathies for both of you.

[RH9]

i like the flavour implications yes, but having to try to pretend i didn't wanna commit scooter ankle every time i opened this game during both days and nights was a bit tiring

My sympathies again.

[RH9]

Would be funny if we get a King Enchant before the game is over though

I would like that.

[RH9]

I just realised that scum has been NKing every single Town Tracker. One would think that they're trying to get a scum Tracker.

We sure wanted that narrative!

Ironically, the scum tracker power was legit the most worthless of them to have, so no, we didn't want it. And no, we didn't fear the tracker tracking on the council, either. One of the scum's powers was an ability that would nullify the tracker's track if need be. We didn't care about town having it, we didn't want it, but giving the

narrative

we wanted it? That, that was worth it. xD

I see.
Did scum also have other secret abilities?

[RH9]

the day dann died was mylo and if he hadn't awoled you couldve forced a win on miselimination of any of the LHFs

To be fair we didn't think about it until the day of the Datisi elim.

We probably wouldn't have effectively no-killed if I had done the math prior to then.

Wait.
Did you no-kill?

[RH9]

Agreed Datisi = scum mvp

For the record I feel like I was also very important; I was making almost every shot in the scum PT, including having mapped out the win conditions we had. If Datisi hadn't died with 13p alive, then we would've probably have won right there from the gamble I cooked up.

Is why I felt so defeated.

All of the good things I did were behind-the-scenes but when they become seen, then it'll be shown why this was a very good scumgame for me.

And it didn't matter.

If all which was there to my scumgame was what was shown in the main gamethread I'd not feel bad about the loss at all, it'd be an "oh well, move on" thing, because my dayplay here was nothing special. It wasn't anything remarkable. I did nothing incredible by dayplay.

But by behind-the-scenes play it was genuinely a strong scumgame of mine and I just...it meant nothing.

My sympathies.
I look forward to reading your scumgame.

[RH9]

Did scum also have other secret abilities?

Just the council powers.

Which we couldn't realistically use outside of endgame, except the useless ones that did nothing. Heck most of them did nothing.

The three instakill powers were strong, but they would instantly out there being scum on the council--meaning we couldn't use them except to trigger an endgame. The town had too many tools to remove scum from the council positions and prevent scum from getting in. Using the powers and outing scum being on the council was never worth it when scum didn't have a way to get back on once kicked off.

I see.

[RH9]

Did you no-kill?

Technically, no, we shot at Firebringer. (Not really a spoiler since it doesn't rule out Firebringer being scum.)

We just knew exactly where the protections were, so it was a no-kill because we knew that Firebringer would be protected. (Remember, minimum of two scum on council, both involved in that decision process. We knew who was being protected and deliberately shot at those being protected.)

That's interesting.
By the way, could scum actually shoot at themselves?

[RH9]

By the way, could scum actually shoot at themselves?

Yup, they could!

That's so cool.
I haven't played in a game where scum could shoot self since my first IRL Mafia game in 2019.

[RH9]

Is everybody still arguing over whether eliminating Datisi was a bad idea or not?

[RH9]

MAD PRINCE

Enchant is great

I somewhat agree.

[RH9]

Is everybody still arguing over whether eliminating Datisi was a bad idea or not?

And now you know why I need to quit.

[RH9]

Enchant didn't (he just did what Enchant does).

Like, I know he was not out casing him, but Enchant was scum reading Datisi specifically for a lot of this game.

Spoiler:

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

Datisi is scum

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

VOTE: Datisi

I just do it actually

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

I don't believe in Datisi

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

Datisi, i challenge you to Trial of Combat

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

I could institute my own trial by combat where i make two people play a game and then execute the one who loses.

That sounds way more fun than this mechanic.

I agree.

Execute Datisi if he refuses again.

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

VOTE: Datisi

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

Challenge: Datisi

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

Eh, i kinda want to kill datisi, but i am really reluctant, like what if he IS town somehow

Subject: House of the Dragon - Day Six

I BELIEVE KING IS TOWN BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS RELIABLE DAMNIT

Enchant, can we do a trust trade?

Trust me on this vote, and tomorrow, whatever vote you want to achieve I will support it within reason.

I am that certain this is the correct play.

I want to exe Datisi. But i want to also do some damage control in case he IS town. Somehow.

Let's be blunt, i don't believe Datisi is town. Yet it's still possible.

enchant scumread me in the recent large where i was a mason too. highly doubt his scumread of me is actually indicative of anything.

Can you link to that game, please?

[RH9]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89870

I see.
I guess that it is probably NAI for Enchant to SR you.

[RH9]

I'm going to guess Firebringer as final scum.

[RH9]

That is a truly ridiculous guess.

I see.
How about GL being final scum?

[RH9]

theres really only 2 reasonable guesses for the last scum and GL isnt one of them.

Can you tell me please?
Other than Titus.

[RH9]

I see.

[RH9]

So anyway yeah it's Titus. Categorically.

I think that you're probably right.

[RH9]

Tbf I'm much less paranoid in the spec thread than i am in game but how do they not realize it has to be kg member.

Like if Owen is town he should know Titus 100%

Maybe they don't understand mech?

[RH9]

Wait.
What does non-Supporter Chat mean?

[RH9]

He may not know.

When we elected Shea king, the people who supported him got a PT, and the people who did not got a separate PT. There is also a PT for the kingsguard and for the small council

I see.
I was just checking.

[RH9]

I think overthrow vote out Titus is the right play.

I agree.

[RH9]

Go, GL!