Mastina, I disagree that the kingsguard mechanics would offer the double kill regularly (since it requires a majority, and once they have been in once during an over thrown they would not be let back in unless they reached the point of being literally no other choices)
But lets assume that you are right, and the scum team get 2 kills every single night guranteed.
Town wins the race, and they have aim assist on thanks to the many clears from the Dats flip + all of the future results from Titus + scum outing their presence in the kingsguard.
And this ignores any potential doctor saves, and ignores any potential jailkeeper saves, both of which would become higher priority PRs to fund the further into the game you get.
You seem to think that the town should have been so scared of this exact scenario, that they would be afraid of killing Datisi?
In post 5153, Enchant wrote:I BELIEVE KING IS TOWN BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS RELIABLE DAMNIT
Enchant, can we do a trust trade?
Trust me on this vote, and tomorrow, whatever vote you want to achieve I will support it within reason.
I am that certain this is the correct play.
I want to exe Datisi. But i want to also do some damage control in case he IS town. Somehow.
Let's be blunt, i don't believe Datisi is town. Yet it's still possible.
enchant scumread me in the recent large where i was a mason too. highly doubt his scumread of me is actually indicative of anything.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Mastina i think your argument is fundamentally flawed.
In order for it to be a bad play for town to elim Datisi there has to be some downside for them to do so, and there just isn't. We don't lose the cop. We gain three conf town and we get the cop as conf town with a conf town doctor. The Poe is tiny. Scum is likely just fucked in that world almost no matter who it is.
So when deciding what to play around you have to ask how far ahead or behind am I. And in a world where Datisi is town the town is massively ahead and can afford to play around the scum gambit.
However in a world where Datisi is scum the town is in rough shape here. They need to figure it out right now or they're screwed. I also think Datisi just did not react very well to the pressure on him. It just wasn't how i would expect town Datisi to react to these mech arguments.
So like, i think you're just wrong here. I know it sucks to lose especially to something you didn't consider because you thought it would be bad play, but i just fundamentally disagree with you that it was.
In post 5153, Enchant wrote:I BELIEVE KING IS TOWN BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS RELIABLE DAMNIT
Enchant, can we do a trust trade?
Trust me on this vote, and tomorrow, whatever vote you want to achieve I will support it within reason.
I am that certain this is the correct play.
I want to exe Datisi. But i want to also do some damage control in case he IS town. Somehow.
Let's be blunt, i don't believe Datisi is town. Yet it's still possible.
enchant scumread me in the recent large where i was a mason too. highly doubt his scumread of me is actually indicative of anything.
I felt like mastina was discrediting the votes on you based on them being all mech/survival based. Instead of reads/ dayplay based.
I was saying that that was very untrue for enchant.
(I also am not ignoring people's correct reads I'm one game, because of an incorrect read in another, since then I would not be able to feel good about scum reading you this game since I scum read you incorrectly in The Thing lol)
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I also think, and i wasn't going to say this until you came into the thread insulting the town, that you were put in this position where everything hinges on Datisi living because you played the whole game badly.
You were widely scum read by everyone and you were going down. This forced Datisi to investigate you. If it weren't for that you were likely to be limmed the next day.
A similar thing can be said for Titus. It's just revisionist history to come into this thread and claim you played so good and town is garbage who got lucky when you were basically caught scum who was bought time because your partner had played well enough to be in a position to buy you that time.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
GL is at least mechanically possible, but it would require him to have taken a position where all he needed was one miselim and set that on fire in order to lose the game for fun.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
