Open 869 | Fight for the Winter Court [Game Over!]

[catboi]

why does town-coral worry about me flipping scum

[skitter30]

This is where i'm at:
- gate: ffery scum
- wall: demona is still probably town (?) and i'm not sure which of isis/chara is scum
- keep: catboi is probably scum and i have a *very* strong preference for catboi/prism to vote me over me voting prism

[skitter30]

She looks p bad if you're scum
I don't think she looks that bad here if you're town tbh

[catboi]

This is where i'm at:
- gate: ffery scum
- wall: demona is still probably town (?) and i'm not sure which of isis/chara is scum
- keep: catboi is probably scum and i have a *very* strong preference for catboi/prism to vote me over me voting prism

She looks p bad if you're scum
I don't think she looks that bad here if you're town tbh

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[catboi]

how does that make literally any sense

[catboi]

the annoying thing is I just finished rereading demona but my mind is dragging me to want to reread absinthe now when I should really be looking at Isis/Chara to get an answer for the wall

[Faker]

I'm sorry. I really can't do this right now. I'll be back another time.

[skitter30]

Those are separate thoughts
1. I think ffery and you are probably scum here

2. Totally separate thought, i don't follow your argument that coral looks bad if you flip town, i don't think she really looks bad if you flip town at all. In contrast, if you were to flip scum, i think she would *look* bad irregardless of her alignment due to associatives with you (but that does not inherently make her scum)

[demona]

but also would rather play isis votes chara or chara votes isis and everyone solves as if demona confirmed

From my pov this is not a given and i dont really like you presenting your minigame this way

if either of them voted and i didn’t hammer would it still not become a given to you? like do you think i would actually be likely to remain in the game as mafia? like my point isn’t that i am currently confirmed to everyone else and everyone should solve as if i am, my point was that had chara voted for me i would be more or less confirmed and then everyone could solve as if i was and the game would be easier for me

unless you disagree with the premise that i would leave as mafia which is why i included it in the original post to chara

but like, i would and i think everyone knows i would

[demona]

like my main takeaway is kinda that i wish chara had voted for me when i asked to avoid all of

this

but anyway

[catboi]

Those are separate thoughts
1. I think ffery and you are probably scum here

2. Totally separate thought, i don't follow your argument that coral looks bad if you flip town, i don't think she really looks bad if you flip town at all. In contrast, if you were to flip scum, i think she would *look* bad irregardless of her alignment due to associatives with you (but that does not inherently make her scum)

how in your mind does coral look bad based off that?

[skitter30]

It would but from my pov i don't know that you arent scum and are not just gonna hammer

And i'm not ready to test that yet

Pedit i'm confused i thought we were talking abt chara voting isis or vice versa
Why would chara vote you?

[demona]

i have a *very* strong preference for catboi/prism to vote me over me voting prism

hm,

[skitter30]

Those are separate thoughts
1. I think ffery and you are probably scum here

2. Totally separate thought, i don't follow your argument that coral looks bad if you flip town, i don't think she really looks bad if you flip town at all. In contrast, if you were to flip scum, i think she would *look* bad irregardless of her alignment due to associatives with you (but that does not inherently make her scum)

how in your mind does coral look bad based off that?

Yesterday's associtiaves with you when a lot of peipke were speculating catboi/coral/third

You flipping scum there means the overall solve might still be correct and it would make sense to go after coral next.

You flipping town would negate that solve

Pedit yes i acknowledged what you want to say there already, it is somewhat hypocritical

[Faker]

I'm fine with cat voting first. I heavily prefer for Tempest to sign off and for it to be later. I won't vote first unless Tempest asks me to, and any vote will be late temporally but can still flip first. I still don't really want the voter to be skitter despite her current preference.

There shouldn't be any confusion on my views.

[skitter30]

I dont want to be the voter, i want {either of you} to vote me

[skitter30]

If i had to vote it would likely be prism still tho

[catboi]

Those are separate thoughts
1. I think ffery and you are probably scum here

2. Totally separate thought, i don't follow your argument that coral looks bad if you flip town, i don't think she really looks bad if you flip town at all. In contrast, if you were to flip scum, i think she would *look* bad irregardless of her alignment due to associatives with you (but that does not inherently make her scum)

how in your mind does coral look bad based off that?

Yesterday's associtiaves with you when a lot of peipke were speculating catboi/coral/third

You flipping scum there means the overall solve might still be correct and it would make sense to go after coral next.

You flipping town would negate that solve

Pedit yes i acknowledged what you want to say there already, it is somewhat hypocritical

people were speculating that as a hypothetical but but that doesn't actually suggest a meaningful associative link, no? it beingin people's guesses isn't damning, people can be right on one player and wrong on another


I'm not really sure where this is leading I just wanted to interrogate the process because the points of view seem contradictory.

[catboi]

looking over 1587 three or four times I get where Isis is coming from and it makes some degree of sense I guess

[demona]

Pedit yes i acknowledged what you want to say there already, it is somewhat hypocritical

it’s like,

part this

part that this is the approach i would have expected to the keep in the first place and it felt like you weren’t taking which is why i was ? about it earlier

and

a small part that it is like, also the approach you’d have to take to win as mafia

but then i’m the one being a hypocrite - town should want to be voted in keep

[skitter30]

I didnt, like, fully get how keep works, i get it now >.>

[catboi]

someone came out of retirement only to roll scum in this game, what a hilariously cruel fate

Are you calling Faker scum or saying this whole playerlist is retirementers

hm

[skitter30]

people were speculating that as a hypothetical but but that doesn't actually suggest a meaningful associative link, no? it beingin people's guesses isn't damning, people can be right on one player and wrong on another

Fair enuf, i'm just not conviced that coral comes out worse than you in your interaction with her

[skitter30]

Catboi are u leaning towards me being town in the keep now?

[catboi]

people were speculating that as a hypothetical but but that doesn't actually suggest a meaningful associative link, no? it beingin people's guesses isn't damning, people can be right on one player and wrong on another

Fair enuf, i'm just not conviced that coral comes out worse than you in your interaction with her

understood I guess, probably better to move on to other subjects

Catboi are u leaning towards me being town in the keep now?

I thought that was pretty explicit, yes. Not like 100% confident which is why I'm still questioning your POV on things you say but stated intention is to vote for you in a day or two when people won't yell at me for disrupting the game or whatever. I think Faker was counting on a default townread from me and when he didn't get it he's been trying to ATE me but he can't actually call me town so it's all been directed mostly at guilt tripping me.