House of the Dragon - Game Over!

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

MAD KING

[Enchant]

Too bad, there's no NM in the game.

Court without Jester is bad one.

[Enchant]

I am surprised i even get support.

[Enchant]

(sorry enchant, you're awesome but uhh I don't think I could vote you for king here...)

I didn't realize what I was voting for when I voted for enchant oh no oh no oh no

When i poison king, you are first on choping block, traitors.

[Enchant]

noting that enchant is still firmly in their scum-meta

Yes, i am mafia, what you gonna do, vote me?

[Enchant]

I’ve seen enough.

I vote for GuiltyLion to be King. All hail the Lion!

Scum.

Town would just vote.

[Enchant]

Andres seems to be also more informed about what happens later, because we don't know about possibility to eliminate king.

[Enchant]

Yeah, save exe+disregarding

[Enchant]

Wow, you really prefer to give PR to scum, instead of me, just because i am Enchant.

Good luck with this strat.

[Enchant]

I declare that i vote for no one, ever.

[Enchant]

It's Yume alt, she will support mastina regardless of what

[Enchant]

I tell no lie

[Enchant]

VP is scum as well.

[Enchant]

how about we make me king instead

i promise to consistently post in thread with no promises about quality

No

[Enchant]

And do you know what I do to such beans? I oppose them, purely out of spite. Screw your kind and shoving your personal opinion down our throats like it's the only one that matters!

You trying to look intimidating, but no one cares.

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'I don't want mastina to become King solely because I dislike her playstyle.

Valid argument, because you want mastina to become King solely because you like her playstyle.

[Enchant]

How you know she not mafia.

[Enchant]

cause I signed up for this to play some mafia

Mistakes make you stronger, and this one will allow you to throw cars.


I find it... Frustrating, that i am only person to selfvote. Reminds me about coalition games, where people know they are town and they want to be chosen to win, but reluctant to force self in coalition via atleast selfhealing. Probably, because they don't want to appear "scummy" for that.
Most hilariously, they also call people scum for voting self.

Violation of common sense as direct.

So, yeah, I can't see any person in this game atleast at some merit seriously and so far, i am only person playing for my wincon.

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Most hilariously, they also call people scum for voting self.

Did someone call you scum for self voting?

In coalition yes.

Here, well, later will?

[Enchant]

Ok, so here is where my head is at:

King: andres
Prince of Dragonstone: GuiltyLion (maybe?)
Hand of the King: (IDK, should this be a scummy person we force to give a result?)
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: VP Baltar (LLD, I will put you on the kingsguard with me so we can find the traitors)
Master of Coin: Dannflor
King's Justice: TSQ

What other roles do we need to assign? Are we taking risks with the kingsguard appointments by not putting any scummy people on the small council?

Maaaaafiiiiiaaaaaa

[Enchant]

Ok, so here is where my head is at:

King: andres
Prince of Dragonstone: GuiltyLion (maybe?)
Hand of the King: (IDK, should this be a scummy person we force to give a result?)
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: VP Baltar (LLD, I will put you on the kingsguard with me so we can find the traitors)
Master of Coin: Dannflor
King's Justice: TSQ

What other roles do we need to assign? Are we taking risks with the kingsguard appointments by not putting any scummy people on the small council?

Maaaaafiiiiiaaaaaa

If you're good I'll let you in the king's guard on a temporary basis.

Not enough to bribe, add 50 coins to it and maybe i consider.

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A king should always take their subjects' desires into decision making. It's why we need a to follow my criteria for choosing a king.

I also just think we need something new to move discussion forward and I don't really care if people level zero attack me over it.

Do you have issues with my list generally other than I made it? who on there do you think shouldn't have power and who would you put in their place?

King should take advise of the town, but not be driven by it. Weak kings are the bane of any kingdom. The reason choosing a town king is important is because they will be deciding PRs, which is a great advantage if they can stack the council with town. Moving to a consensus for PRs seems to allow scum an easier route into the council if they miss out on the kingship. And your post didn't really take into account Andres role in the decision at all.

I can't decide my council unless and until I get elected, at which point the game will have presumably changed significantly because it looks like an uphill climb at the moment. I'm not actively distrusting any of GuiltyLion/TSQ/Dannflor/Andres though, so don't have an issue with the list in those terms - with the exception of you, who is suspicious to me.

I had same thoughts.

Fine.
VOTE: UNOwen

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Also, why didn't any of you think to ask me for my reasoning why she'd make a good King? No, you just dismissed them as inane rather than looking at them objectively.

I am better king, why you didn't ask my reasoning and just started promoting Mastina?

Also, person who replies with SHUT UP are not by any means are valid target for civil conversation.

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Also, why didn't any of you think to ask me for my reasoning why she'd make a good King? No, you just dismissed them as inane rather than looking at them objectively.

I am better king, why you didn't ask my reasoning and just started promoting Mastina?

Also, person who replies with SHUT UP are not by any means are valid target for civil conversation.

I told you to shush because you outed my main, actually.

But you did it in sign up...........

[Enchant]

Lol i never hided

Also you also force mastina just because of that, so

[Enchant]

Tell me I am wrong.

You're wrong.


Anyhow. LLD - can I get an updated reads list from you. Also, has your thinking changed at all on the essential nature of the king being the most important decision?

Said person who already states king to appoint self at kingsguard.

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Sorry, forgot that you are mafia and talked with you again, but i called out your hypocrisy.

It will not happen next time.

[Enchant]

Because they want king to be:
Town
Respectable scumhunter
At same time, sheep, so he will sheep majority and consult them.


Why they need to put good scumhunter at king if they will dictate all actions to them is idk.

[Enchant]

I have different criteria, which she doesn't fit

[Enchant]

It did include me, so i answered.

[Enchant]

Hey, i want to prevent VP from getting king at all cost. He is mafia. GL is also, if VP votes for him.

@LLD
@UNOWen
@Andante
@Junko
@Firebringer
@ProfessorDrapion
@Titus
@mastina
@Rhaenyra


UNITE AND PREVENT CORRUPTION.

LET'S DECIDE BY DICE WHO AMONG ASS SHALL BE COUNTERKING.
I EVEN EXCLUDE SELF FROM RESULTS FOR HONESTY.

[Enchant]

FINE IT WORKS TOO.

VOTE: Junko

[Enchant]

I vote anyone to not let VP, who is obvscum

[Enchant]

No.

[Enchant]

No.

cool beans

[Enchant]

Prostrat:
1. Put town in king
2. He puts scum (i hope) as successor, but makes council somewhat townie
3. When king dies, council just execute new king. Or if said king pretends to be townie and cooperates, he makes another scummy person to be heir, executes another, we vote out third one. Then council overthrows monarhy, killing both king and heir.
4. Repeat for victory.


Questions?

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Yeah people prefer to put scum than wildcard.

[Enchant]

I am not voting for Andante because she insulted me.

Royal offense.

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I think "Person is town but can't be king" more liekely comes from scum who don't want town king, but can't really argue person to be scum, so they appeal to "Not competency".

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So this game is basically which king could bribe more players.

[Enchant]

Datisi is scum

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i think drapion's approach to the game is kinda townie but i think he also should not be within the 10 foot radius of the council

hit me with your abbreviated scum list again: luke, andres, ??, ??, ??

luke, dwlee, less certain on charloux and bellaphant

and then a fun meme choice in andres/enchant/penguin

(i am not actually as certain on andres since it feels like everyone thinks i'm wrong so i'm gonna not try to kill him for the time being and hope that i get enlightened later)

So you basically think the scum are getting rolled hard here and essentially have no influence? Seems a little optimistic.

@enchant - You think both datisi and I are scum now. Seems improbable. Why should I read you as town here when you're doing less than usual (surprising!) and your reads seem extremely fabricated?

I will call everyone who appeal for not competency.

[Enchant]

People who toss like 3-5 people who they townread for dumb reason are either suck at game or scum.

I presume no one suck, before proven opposite.

[Enchant]

If anyone has any suggestions for me for king whether they be mech thoughts, speculations, people you think should have roles and people who you think shouldn't, now would be the time to throw them out into the world.

Don't listen to anyone.

[Enchant]

Also don't appoint hand of the king to most townie person, mafia will just nk them effortlessly and you receive nothing but disappointment.

[Enchant]

VOTE: thestatusquo

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It doesh't matter if Master of Coin is scum, PRs designed to be "unknown" cost. So mafia can just claim that their ability costs like 30 coins.

[Enchant]

It doesh't matter if Master of Coin is scum, PRs designed to be "unknown" cost. So mafia can just claim that their ability costs like 30 coins.

blah blah blah

yeah i care, reread what i said

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How dwlee wagon are so big

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And why am I town?

Good post
VOTE: VP Boltar

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You certainly overuse fact that you don't need provide anything to push me.

If you want to throw game further okay, it's not like you ever listen to me.

[Enchant]

VP Baltar is mafia, of course there's will be counterwagon.

[Enchant]

you supposed to create council, not circus

[Enchant]

Bite me.

Execute someone already

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if you wanted a power role you could have tried doing literally anything to make me think you're town but go off I guess.

What's that? The consequences of your own actions? Oh noooooooo!

Do you think i am town

[Enchant]

kingsguard picks: mastina/penguinpower/enchant/VPB/GL/Dannflor

@Drapion Why is enchant a thing now

I refuse.

[Enchant]

Dear Westeros

It has come to my attention both in this thread and in the Supporters of the King PT that several other citizens find me 'sus', a 'scummy slot' and that the previous holder of my title 'didn't say much'. People tell me "explain your reads", they say I pull things from my orifices, they ask me questions to which I have not the answers.

To this end, I have to decided to redouble my efforts. There is an errand I must do in the north, but after that I will scrutinise this community like never before, and cast a definitive judgement on the Kingdom from the lowliest servant to the Iron Throne itself. This will happen within the next several hours.

Game of thrones-style signoff.

You will do nothing at double effort?

Thanks.

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VOTE: Datisi

I just do it actually

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VOTE: GuiltyLion

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he posted that case in the council pt - where gl cannot read it nor respond to it.

and? it's good

you don't really need to show scum why they are scum or even then let them DEFEND self


kick them when the lie indeed

[Enchant]

I don't like you either

[Enchant]

Feel free to roll out the red carpet. Was replacing into an 87 page game a good idea? Haha, of course not. Did I do it anyway? Yeah.

hi, we are voting randomly so king overrules our choice anyway and executes who he want.


... No really what point

[Enchant]

I would solve all problem with corruption and world hunger if i was king already.

There's no hunger if all hungry people are dead, yeah?

[Enchant]

I changed my mind i want to be kingsguard and let king die

[Enchant]

Oh damn.
Idea.

Let's vote king, so he panics and actually starts making decisions?

Hahaha... Ah.
I know no one will follow.

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1 in DW/Datsi for sure. Rev those slots down with a chainsaw in w/e order tbh but I'm more scared of Datsi wiggling their way out of a vote against me (AGAIN) then DW so B)
pedit: Oh has the king just sat there and done nothing? PERFECT just as I expected.

He gived us bread and circuses.

More circuses though.

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Furtive mindmelts with scum

Therefore both mafia

[Enchant]

Luke's PR was the best PR to check for scum on the council. His death points to Junko scum IMO

VOTE: GL

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Btw if council actually gived money to tracker, they fucked up super hard.

[Enchant]

Because tracker suck in this state of game

[Enchant]

Luke's dead points towards a scum being in the council

Yes, this was my point + asserting that I think you specifically are the scum on the council

why Junke

[Enchant]

Can we wait for datisi check btw

[Enchant]

really

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Is there valid and reasonable reason for Fire to not give datisi money?

[Enchant]

Is there valid and reasonable reason for Fire to not give datisi money?

Its called a bank account.

To who you gived money?

[Enchant]

no way

[Enchant]

So in his world he thinks I, as king, the most powerful role in the game

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

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@Firebringer

Can you give all information on money you have? If you perish without telling and mafia will step up as moneyholder afterwards, it makes them easier to lie about money.

[Enchant]

Wait wait

Fire gived money to doctor?

WHY EVEN FOND DOCTOR SO HE PROTECT COP WHO CAN'T CHECK AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Enchant]

circus council

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VOTE: Firebringer

[Enchant]

Alright seems like i need to advertise.

Firstly. I am not scumreading Fire. Really. You need to understand that. Issue that i don't townread him enough.
Secondly. Fire made horrible management of money and harmed town by it. Just in case: I don't know what happens in council, maybe Fire indeed have SUPER PUPER DUPER plan, but i don't know it and no one cares to tell it and say "yes it's cool plan i can assure" from council.
Third: Joke about giving Luke all money. I disliked it hard and then realised Fire COULD do it as mafia and then flex about it. What is Money holder can give money ONLY to Council? Then dumping all money on fucking useless tracker (while giving some to doctor to cover it up), while killing him makes all sense.
And at last, Fire refuses to cooperate and acts like troll. Good luck to him then.


So i appreciate if Fire will be resigned from his post.
At death.

[Enchant]

Are wolves giving you all blowjobs in the PT?

yes

[Enchant]

I am sick, so i will be even less active, not enough to VLA thou

I will try to answer questions thou if you have them

[Enchant]

i am not surprised math have power now

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Just in a case i find Fire explaination really plausable, but his management still suck.

I just didn't found who i want to vote instead yet.

[Enchant]

I can't with ceirtanity say if Dwlee is mafia or town.

[Enchant]

VOTE: unvote

Only in spirit to prevent Enchant hammer without answering the question.

I have no incentive to hammer Dwlee9

[Enchant]

What question you had

[Enchant]

I can't with ceirtanity say if Dwlee is mafia or town.

Can you express why you aren’t on the Dwlee wagon?

@Enchant: This one.

Will revote Dwlee in the am

Because i am not sure if i want Dwlee dead.

[Enchant]

Mastina: makes serious post
me: haha junke mispelled dwlee all times

[Enchant]

I have feeling Dwlee flip something to piss me off.


If i hammer him, he flip town.
If i don't, he flip mafia.


shredinger

[Enchant]

Fine let's do it.

VOTE: Dwlee

[Enchant]

Andre tries to sell that i protected dwlee from elim

While i never did it

Like ???

[Enchant]

Andre tries to sell that i protected dwlee from elim

While i never did it

Like ???

In your opinion, what did you do at end of day 2 then? What was your motive and what did you do to accomplish it?

Idk i got bored and decided to risk it

[Enchant]

I was to late to challenge someone?

We

[Enchant]

Why mafia keep killing trackers

It's fucking dumb

[Enchant]

I have theory about what mafia doing.

They kill useless townie councils (tracker) to notdirectly harm powerful PRs in future, without risking wasting attack on real Cop (unless he is scum). Afterwards when they manage to kill Cop, there will be no one to replace him.

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Prince of Dragonstone: unwnd
Hand of the King: Datisi
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Andresvmb
Master of Coin: Firebringer
Master of Laws: Andante
Master of Whisperers/Grand Maester: Mathblade

There's only 4 council members alive. Every player can't hold more than two roles. So if you can:

Don't give Master of Whisperers to anyone

. At this point you forced to grant Grand Maester (too important). If you also grant Master of Whisperers, then there will be two players with two PRs. And they could't replace if someone else die.

Atleast i don't think you can revoke someone power without killing them. Tsk...

[Enchant]

Asked some questions to mod:
1. Prince can receive PRs.
2. Prince WILL keep them after becoming king.
3. It's not known if overthrowing monarchy and choosing new king will allow to hire new council members.
4. King can't give PRs to self.


So i dunno guys, i think we need to give Grand Maester to trustworthy Prince, so after king die we will get undying Doctor.

Of course we need trustworthy prince. VOTE: unwnd

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Of course, you need to ask if you can actually target king and give him money.

[Enchant]

Asked some questions to mod:
1. Prince can receive PRs.
2. Prince WILL keep them after becoming king.
3. It's not known if overthrowing monarchy and choosing new king will allow to hire new council members.
4. King can't give PRs to self.


So i dunno guys, i think we need to give Grand Maester to trustworthy Prince, so after king die we will get undying Doctor.

Of course we need trustworthy prince. VOTE: unwnd

look I know Shea says he doesn't trust Mastina's reads and I certainly think Mastina is scum!MVP so far this game, but is there really any mechanical argument against making Mastina Prince and dumping all the roles on her? Like how is that not just the best case scenario for town, mastina will eventually get her head out of her tunnels and find scum even if she has to burn/waste some eliminations on town to do it

hmmm

Fine?

No really not sarcastic, let's put Mastina at Prince.

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Prince of Dragonstone: unwnd
Hand of the King: Datisi
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Andresvmb
Master of Coin: Firebringer
Master of Laws: Andante
Master of Whisperers/Grand Maester: Mathblade

There's only 4 council members alive. Every player can't hold more than two roles. So if you can:

Don't give Master of Whisperers to anyone

. At this point you forced to grant Grand Maester (too important). If you also grant Master of Whisperers, then there will be two players with two PRs. And they could't replace if someone else die.

Atleast i don't think you can revoke someone power without killing them. Tsk...

How does this make any sense? Don’t give PRs to players (regardless of read) because they might get shot? I can’t say I think there’s a lot of logic to this. I think the approach that favors Town is to let TSQ hand the roles to players we TR, and we do our best to take advantage of the PRs. Unless you’re arguing that there are only Scum in the Council so handing roles out is detrimental, I can’t say I’m tracking the logic here.

I refuse to talk with someone who can't read.

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if we give both roles and for example Cop gets shot: There will be only one replacement.


Why even give tracker if we not using them. This way we have atleast two potential candidates.

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Scenario 2: You allocate Grand Maester (to me again), but you allocate Master of Whisperers to Datisi as the Hand. Okay, I get shot. So Lord Commander + Grand Maester up for grabs, and one player (Datisi) holds two PRs. You now have 2 roles to distribute, and everyone in the Council but Datisi can get an additional PR (3 players). How is this not strictly better than the situation above?

Okay example:
You get Grand Maester.
Firebringer get Master of Whisperers.

And for Example Datisi dies.

Now Cop can go only in hands of Johhnny or Andante.


Giving another investigative to already investigative is silly. It depends really if

you can multitask

, but regardless it's silly.
It's also stupid to give Datisi power of Doctor as he can't nurse self.

[Enchant]

If we really need Tracker for some reason some day, always can grant it again.

But why holding this position now? It's unlikely we will give it money instead of Cop.

[Enchant]

Scenario 2: You allocate Grand Maester (to me again), but you allocate Master of Whisperers to Datisi as the Hand. Okay, I get shot. So Lord Commander + Grand Maester up for grabs, and one player (Datisi) holds two PRs. You now have 2 roles to distribute, and everyone in the Council but Datisi can get an additional PR (3 players). How is this not strictly better than the situation above?

Okay example:
You get Grand Maester.
Firebringer get Master of Whisperers.

And for Example Datisi dies.

Now Cop can go only in hands of Johhnny or Andante.


Giving another investigative to already investigative is silly. It depends really if

you can multitask

, but regardless it's silly.
It's also stupid to give Datisi power of Doctor as he can't nurse self.

If I do my job right, Datisi never dies. Otherwise I’m likely Scum and you should execute me.

I honestly do not know and we would need to check if the Town can multi-task, but I’m still not seeing your point. Why is giving an investigative to a player that has an investigative silly? If anything, if the Master of Coin for whatever reason is unable to provide sufficient Coin to activate the Cop, but can activate the Tracker (without damaging the long-term prospects of using the Cop on future Nights too much), then why wouldn’t you want exactly that? Particularly since the Doctor as we know is already very likely to be sitting on that player? And this is even if the Town cannot multi-task.

Yes you never give the Doctor to the Cop but that’s obvious.

Fine?
If mod confirmed multitask then fine, but having all investigative power on one person is not really cool.

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Wait why my vote didn't count

[Enchant]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i realised

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.... hm...

VOTE: Andante

[Enchant]

.... hm...

VOTE: Andante

That's now a fire vote and one I'm not 100% opposed to. Fire "caught up" too fast.

wha

[Enchant]

Did you meant firebringer.

[Enchant]

On what your SR even based on

[Enchant]

On what your SR even based on

What have you done that you would describe as Town positive? Put it in your own words. Because from where I’m sitting, you (i) started shading me aggressively when I entered the game, and engaged me in bad faith (see 238, 253, and the latter being annoying in particular since the game is mountainous to start, so the attack makes no sense); (ii) made a dubious argument about questioning why people weren’t self-voting for King in 687; (iii) shaded VPB aggressively (who I TR) for making recommendations and trying to get consensus (see 867 for example, or 1177, or 1337); (iv) softly defended against a DW execution (see 1851), though did waffle later in 2960, 2974, and voted there towards the end (3045, in what could be a potential bus vote); (v) and despite shading VPB and Datisi aggressively for most of the start of the game, have almost completely ignored those reads after ~3400, voting the Johnny slot in 3401 instead (which makes me think your shade is fabricated or you don’t really believe in it), and Andante in 3640. So I can’t say I even understand what you’re trying to accomplish.

so you just OMGUSing me k

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Whatever happens today, I want TSQ gone tonight. Whether I'll want to overthrow the monarchy as a whole depends on their pick for Prince of Dragonstone, assuming JF is eliminated.

I disagree

[Enchant]

So then the question follows:
If Dwlee was a committed bus--which they were--then why would Rhaenyra with a team committed to the bus hop OFF of Dwlee and thus lose any possible towncred for having been a part of the wagon?

She wouldn't.

Rhaenyra, and by extent Johnny, is town.

But hoping off doesn't mean losing towncred.

It's like arguing hoping on last moment gives you any.

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I think mastina attacked me with some sort of weapon

My brain hurts

[Enchant]

Oh heah

Mafia desided to bus dwlee and was like "let's dwlee also vote for kinging yet another teammate"

[Enchant]

Oh heah
Mafia desided to bus dwlee and was like "let's dwlee also vote for kinging yet another teammate"

That's not how chronology works and you fucking know it.

Mafia didn't decide to bus Dwlee and then have Dwlee vote for Kinging another teammate.

Mafia tried to King a teammate, and when that failed, decided to bus Dwlee to prop up said teammate.

Which you may note is what is actually supported by the chronology of the game.

I forgot whole d1 sorry

[Enchant]

Idk if i was scum, i would refuse getting tracker and aim at doctor instead.

[Enchant]

Wait i am town and i still don't want tracker

[Enchant]

It means King can leave position open.

[Enchant]

I still think granting Whisperer is not worth it at this point

[Enchant]

Don't tell me you are really nasty enough to wait for replacement to tell them "well we gived your slot grand maester and planned to execute you so don't bother".

Execute him already.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Johnnny

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

Hold on

[Enchant]

If we execute Johnny, will Grand Maester power even work or we have no protection for next night?

[Enchant]

Why king still not executed Johnny?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Johnny

[Enchant]

How many Whisperers already died can you stop granting this role

[Enchant]

I don't believe in Datisi

[Enchant]

But santa claus exist

[Enchant]

Datisi, i challenge you to Trial of Combat

[Enchant]

coward

[Enchant]

If you was town then challenging me is something you would want.

But if you was mafia you would bank on big chance of survival or that i bail of it due fear of you are town.


let me think this over.

[Enchant]

I could institute my own trial by combat where i make two people play a game and then execute the one who loses.

That sounds way more fun than this mechanic.

I agree.

Execute Datisi if he refuses again.

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Also fun fact.
Notice how when I say someone’s town they are town. (Except for Dwlee that was a planned buss.)
Wow.

It’s only my wolf reads that haven’t been correct so far.

call me town

[Enchant]

Mafia have no incentive to accept challenge. They fear to die.

[Enchant]

Is a 5% chance you, the only person you know for sure to be town, die worth a 5% chance that someone you scum read dies?

I wouldn't take that trade as town most of the time.

CHALLENGE: THE STATUSQUO

[Enchant]

VP Baltar was aligned with the

Town

Perhaps i treated you too harshly.

[Enchant]

Because mafia want to kill trackers for some reason.

[Enchant]

Well they can't attack cop directly.

[Enchant]

Not in mood sorry

[Enchant]

completly not magical i dislike

[Enchant]

VOTE: Datisi

[Enchant]

VOTE: Eiralox

[Enchant]

Challenge: Datisi

[Enchant]

You know what actually

Challenge: Roden
Challenge: fireisredsir
Challenge: Thestatusquo
Challenge: Unowen
Challenge: GuiltyLion
Challenge: Firebringer
Challenge: Datisi
Challenge: ProfessorDrapion
Challenge: furtiveglance

[Enchant]

I have bad feeling about this.

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I think it's convient how mafia killed all trackers beforehand and when it was in firebringer hands they SUDDENLY got gigaplan to perform save.

[Enchant]

I think if we both die, they will just say "lol they dumb" and move on.

[Enchant]

Enchant the Purple

WHY I HAVE THIS TITLE

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My main problem with the scum kills is that we literally told scum we would vote out Datisi the Day before ELO. If we somehow don't hit scum for the next two Days, then Datisi has five green checks when we hit 9 players left. If Datisi is town when we elim him there then we have 5 conftown vs 3 scum...there's zero way to mis-elim anyone in that ELO.

They aren't killing conftowns, just Trackers who never got confirmed. They aren't stopping the Cop in any way, even though they were directly told that our conftowns will outnumber the scum team by the time we reach ELO.

Somebody make this make sense.

Did you include combat trials

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You can't do shit on me.

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Imagine if mafia can't lose them as special ability.

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That would be WILD

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Datisi

yawn

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I wanted to vote and linked instead

Please pretend it's vote

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Lets say we keep dats alive. Dats performs a check UNPROTECTED. Then scum make the choice. Do they allow town!dats to get ANOTHER clear, or go for an already clear/council when they could be protected and we could stop ANOTHER kill. If scum go for dats, good the debate is settled. They won't but its settled. And we get another chance to stop some night kill and dats freely gets another check.

Wait i actually like this one

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Sorry i already scared shit out of two fighters

No more allowed

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furtive is town

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Eh.

Let's do that: we let Datisi live next night, but without protection. If mafia kills him, cool. If not.

He will state check. Regardless of what this check is, i will challenge Datisi on duel. Two times if necessary. Depends on outcome, we work out situation.


Issue is. I don't want to vote furtive either. I have feeling he thinks like me, therefore town.

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Firebringer or Thestatus

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I also think.

It's more reason to provoke him to execute someone and look at his reasonings. Right now he is boring and passive as fuck.

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If he does not accept. He scumclaims. So... Problem solved?

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Eh, i kinda want to kill datisi, but i am really reluctant, like what if he IS town somehow

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I know third option.

VOTE: Thestatus
Please vote, so status will decide. Or atleast waste execution and won't bother us tomorrow with NOOOO DATISI IS TOWN I BELIEVE

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I also think.

Yet again, you want repeat of first day where he saved dwlee because he believed them?

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King need to waste exe. That's 100%

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I BELIEVE KING IS TOWN BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS RELIABLE DAMNIT

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I BELIEVE KING IS TOWN BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS RELIABLE DAMNIT

Enchant, can we do a trust trade?

Trust me on this vote, and tomorrow, whatever vote you want to achieve I will support it within reason.

I am that certain this is the correct play.

I want to exe Datisi. But i want to also do some damage control in case he IS town. Somehow.

Let's be blunt, i don't believe Datisi is town. Yet it's still possible.

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Enchant.
Why are you refusing to listen to both Lady and Mastina?

Shea is town and less brainwashed then Mastina is yet you vote a likely town? Doesn’t make sense.
do you not want to follow Mastina nor Lady?

What’s the issue here Enchant?

I want to use my own head.


Anyway, it's not like i gonna take what i want and furtive is worse option. So.

VOTE: Datisi

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Good time to start sponsoring jailkeeper as well. If you can.

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Chill.

If mastina is scum, she just uses exe.

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Chill.

If mastina is scum, she just uses exe.

Not if we hammer her first!

VOTE: Mastina

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I don't have council PT.

Did Mastina say she will heal self?

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Mafia knew Mastina will heal self and leave cop unprotected?

Did Kingsguard warn Mastina she will be overthrown?

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Would't she heal self again

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WHy you didn't give any gold........

How she survived o... Oh right. Someone scum in Kingsguard.

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IN THE END, I AM KING.

WHO LAUGHING NOW?

EXECUTE: Titus

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Oh yeah also.

Roden is Prince.

Why not.

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I had feeling it's ultimate townsided setup

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Why you targeted trackers

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Spectator Chat
Supporters PT
Peasant Disatisfaction with King Shea
The Small Council

Mafia have 24 hours for redactions for their PT

Kingsguard PTs?

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Read the council thread and I'm not sure who scammed Firebringer more, the wizard or Datisi.

Wizard destroyed Firebringer with FACTS AND LOGIC.