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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:37 pm

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I'm ffery.
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:38 pm

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Each minigame uses the following rules:
At the Gate, one Nutcracker Soldier player is chosen by the Minions of Summer overnight to be publicly confirmed as a Nutcracker Soldier. The Nutcracker Soldiers must vote to eliminate the Minion of Summer to win.
At the Wall, there are no special rules. Nutcracker Soldiers must vote to eliminate the Minions of Summer to win.
At the Keep, Nutcracker Soldiers must vote on one player. If that player is a Nutcracker Soldier, the Nutcracker Soldiers win; otherwise, the Minions of Summer win.

So IC in game one. So we have a 1v1 in the first game
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:38 pm

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In post 1750, absinthe wrote:I'm ffery.
Noted. Why do you think you’re scumread?
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:39 pm

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In post 1748, absinthe wrote:
In post 1745, skitter30 wrote:Current consensus is ffery is scum there
Is this actually consensus? not rebutting it, yet at least. I have a lot of pages to read.
I think more people think you're scum than coral
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:39 pm

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In post 1738, Ydrasse wrote:
GUMDROP GATE
[0]
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[3]
Not voting:
absinthe, Coral,
Tempest


WAFER WALL
[0]
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[3]
Not voting:
demona, Isis, Chara


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[0]
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[0]
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Not voting:
MathBlade, skitter30, catboi


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So 1v1 between Absinthe and Coral.
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:42 pm

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In post 1741, absinthe wrote:Your thoughts on this, Isis?
I don't know enough about Chara's relationship with skitter and Coral to know how that A/B comparison works? Although I don't think Chara would know Coral at all so maybe that was supposed to be a game state thing I'm not getting
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:44 pm

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In post 1327, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT
[3] Gumdrop Gate: skitter30, Coral, Tempest
[3] Wafer Wall: demona, Isis, Chara
[3] Krampus Keep: Faker, absinthe, catboi

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We know Tempest is town. So first mini game clear.

We know that demona Isis and Chara contains a town and me, absinthe, catboi contains a town.
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:44 pm

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Look at the daystart vc
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:46 pm

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In post 1329, Ydrasse wrote:
As the soldiers bickered back and forth, at times nearly coming to blows over the questions of loyalty, a small dot approached from the distance. A carrier-partridge, with a note hastily attached to its leg.

It landed on the edge of the tower, shaking off the small bits of ice that had formed on its wings from the sheer cold. Quickly, the newest nutcracker grabbed for it, scaring the bird as he pulled away the paper. The partridge let out an indignant noise before flying away, clearly uncaring as to whatever response they might have.

"The captain is manning the Gate!" he stated, willing to show the others what the note said as to not rouse their ire further. "We can at least trust them to be the most noble of soldiers, never to turn against the Winter Court."

"And," another soldier said snippily, yanking away the note for himself, "that we are not to use the tunnels underneath the lands. With the fear of treason, and soldiers already going to and fro... how are we ever to figure out who started this all?"

"Well, that's not a problem, is it?" the newest soldier snapped, looking pointedly at all of their chilled guns. "I don't think any of us are going to be running off without brain freeze! So just get on with it -- fill up all the empty space in your hollow head and figure out that I'm on your side!"




absinthe is now at the Gumdrop Gate. skitter30 is now at the Krampus Keep. Tempest is confirmed as town.
Then with this swap it has to be a one scum in each section.

@Skitter — I am trying to figure out all the possible combinations that exist

Then compare against D1 tomorrow.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:48 pm

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In post 1756, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1327, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT
[3] Gumdrop Gate: skitter30, Coral, Tempest
[3] Wafer Wall: demona, Isis, Chara
[3] Krampus Keep: Faker, absinthe, catboi

Tempest is automatically assigned to the Gumdrop Gate.

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We know Tempest is town. So first mini game clear.

We know that demona Isis and Chara contains a town and me, absinthe, catboi contains a town.
I'm saying that with the swap these conclisions are not necessarily correct
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:50 pm

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In post 1759, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1756, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1327, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT
[3] Gumdrop Gate: skitter30, Coral, Tempest
[3] Wafer Wall: demona, Isis, Chara
[3] Krampus Keep: Faker, absinthe, catboi

Tempest is automatically assigned to the Gumdrop Gate.

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We know Tempest is town. So first mini game clear.

We know that demona Isis and Chara contains a town and me, absinthe, catboi contains a town.
I'm saying that with the swap these conclisions are not necessarily correct
Those conclusions preswap must be correct.

The rules state that if any group contains 3 scum at the end of day one town wins.

Since a swap occurred that must be true.

FoS Skitter.
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:50 pm

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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:52 pm

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What do you mean sigh?

The premise at end of Day 1 if a hood contains all scum then scum lose.

Therefore if a hood doesn’t contain all scum it contains at least one town.
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:55 pm

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In post 1752, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1750, absinthe wrote:I'm ffery.
Noted. Why do you think you’re scumread?
I don't think it's due to being too busy to post much during day 1, but I think the effect of that -- posting mostly in catchup mode -- is a major reason. I'm usually one of the most prolific posters regardless of alignment, so this game is pretty far off the map. I think I'd have to go back to 2014 to find a game where I wasn't keeping up for long stretches.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:56 pm

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We don't know how many town were in each preswap, post swap we know the scum distribution is 1-1-1 so i would start there vs eod yesterday

And i'm just kinda dubious you're gonna got to me town-me so this minigame just became a lot harder
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:58 pm

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So then we know that either
A) Scum had 1-1-1 preswap or
B) Scum had 2-1-0 post swap (can be any order not writing that out due to time)

We know final is 1-1-1 so sorting the swapped players should swap the mini games.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:59 pm

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This is in the town-you universe, to be clear before people jump on me
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:59 pm

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post swap? you mean pre swap?
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:59 pm

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Me?
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:00 pm

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In post 1767, absinthe wrote:post swap? you mean pre swap?
Preswap

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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:01 pm

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If we can sort those two players alignments then we can work backwards to what swap existed

Then knowing what distros exist the worlds become very very small.
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:02 pm

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catboi can you talk about how your Faker read developed?
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:09 pm

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In post 1330, Ydrasse wrote:
GUMDROP GATE
[0]
absinthe:

[0]
Coral:


[3]
Not voting:
absinthe, Coral,
Tempest


WAFER WALL
[0]
demona:

[0]
Isis:

[0]
Chara:


[3]
Not voting:
demona, Isis, Chara


KRAMPUS KEEP
[0]
Faker:

[0]
skitter30:

[0]
catboi:


[3]
Not voting:
Faker, skitter30, catboi


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So absinthe was put in the top mini game with the IC.

Given that absinthe is ffery and skitter are both top tier players, I am tempted to say that they’re the same alignment. Having two top tier players against the IC who is unknown (but also might be top tier) would be how I would do it if T&S.

Considering Skitter went down to the third mini game where it’s an unknown of faker and hard to read Catboi

I think Skitter and Absinthe is T&T or S&S.

Given that and I am town, this means a solve of either

Catboi or Skitter scum
Absinthe or Coral scum
Demona Isis or Chara scum.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:18 pm

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Absinthe ig i kinda feel like you're ~around
But not really trying to solve the game tbh
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:18 pm

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And math i don't really think the swap points to me/ffery being the same alignment tbh
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