In post 1771, absinthe wrote:catboi can you talk about how your Faker read developed?
Sure. I think mid-late Day 1 I started to feel no one was super obviously scum and when thatthat's the case it's usually because someone is doing a convincing job of appearing town. That made Faker a plausible suspect, but I wanted to wait and see what became of the swaps. I felt there was basically no chance scum allow a highposting town-Faker to stay in the keep. I thought the pivot against me was a very plausible scum narative arc, even if I enabled it with my play, it still suits the scum wincon to suggest going to a location with me and acting buddy-buddy only to turn on me down the line. I think mostly from there his arguments when we were actually in the keep were incoherent and seemingly not coming from a town perspective at all. I don't really want to revisit all of that if possible though.
I think your premise “There’s no way a scum team allows town Faker to stay in the keep” flawed for the same reason my “strong players should be in either space against Tempest” argument flawed.
If there was only one scum in the Keep and two scum in another, then they’d have to swap elsewhere.
Since I am about to read that though I hope there’s more to your conclusion than that. Because it sounds like you’re starting with my slot scum and how to justify it.
Well, for starters, absinthe was switched out of the keep so the premise faker couldn't have been swapped out is incorrect. I also think Faker-absinthe is entirely plausible as teammates
I have a work fire on my day off. May be VLA for the rest of the day.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
I'm halfway into rereading absinthe and I don't know if I'm just predisposing myself to reading her scum or what at this point, hard to tell unfortunately.
I'm not trying to be salty. I'm just going back and looking at why Isis Chela and demona are so much harder to read than everyone else. Yeah that's mafia I get it, but there's not really a call for glibness when someone is trying to figure things out from a view of complete ignorance as to what has happened.
I didn't think you were being salty. I just don't think there's an actual meaningful answer to be given, at least from my perspective. I have suspected everyone in the Wall at varying points in time. I don't have a high confidence townread on anyone, though Chara is probably the closest after a reread. That's just how the game is, sometimes it's difficult to get a read.
Well I want to sort Isis and Chara and gathering everyone's vibe on each of them would help, like you just indicated with Chara. ( I dunno where I got Chela out of Chara so sorry Chara ). This sees like a fairly straightforward game. Have there been any big waves for or against anyone in the wall?
I would say the biggest "wave" is Chara indicating 80% confidence in voting for me.
Catboi I don't get why "wall is the hardest game" is a statement immune to "why"s, it's true the game of mafia is hard by default, but you could at least say why the other two have more direction.
Gate has a clear in it, that's part of it
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
My excitement is pretty hollowed out by the double rep. I don't know how to convert that into "therefore we should do x" I just feel like saying it aloud I guess
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
I wanted to ask prism why they seemed that it would be likely for me to be ic’d. There were a few times that prism said something along the lines of it being nice to have a Tammy-clear and iirc it was brought up when there was a decent amount of suspicion on me. Might be nothing, but I remember thinking it was unlikely and it was something I’d made a note about to ask.
I skimmed through yesterday here and there but mostly just to keep somewhat current. I need to work on a reread and actually read everything from yesterday. Probably won’t get that all done tonight. I have some things to finish up with today before I have some free time to get back involved.
Whenever you're done and caught up I'd like to talk things over with you.
Oh wow today has totally gotten away from me. I'm not sure how far I get into my reread tonight as it's getting really late, but I do have much more time tomorrow.
I know that I mentioned wanting to ask Prism a question about the ic, but that's not because I have a scum read there. I do need to reread Prism, but yesterday I thought that they just seemed like they were having fun. There was a lot of more shooting the breeze than solving, but I'm not sure how much that was due to the setup and not alignment. Even within that there were some reads, but the way the reads were presented, it wasn't all that easy to get a read off of it, or at least one I feel confident about. Might feel differently after a reread. One of the reasons why I thought the taunting of me being scum during day one seemed town was because they were just seeming to want to have a good time, and I wondered if he'd want to change the mood created whlle knowing I was town. Do I think it's impossible, no absolutely not, it just didn't go with the vibe. And does Prism try to plant a fake town tell on the opening of day two by saying that he thought that ffery was the one confirmed town? Some people think that things like that are cheap, and frankly I misread it the same exact way, so that felt natural.
I'm going to try to catch up on today's posts before doing any rereading.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 54, Isis wrote:I quoted 33 because I wanted to ask about quarantining faker in the first game but then I decided to not flood a game that's already 90 mph but I guess I'm asking now. Isn't making a slot miserable -EV?
I think it is. It's definitely +MV, which I would prefer to avoid, even if it is at a minor cost of EV. I want this to be a low Miserableness Value game, if possible.
Faker suggested it in the previous game of this that she played, so it was on my mind that she likely would bring it up again, and I think it's more fun to let her frolick freely in the pastures of her dreams.
What's +MV?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Note to self when sober look at why Isis voted here.
(I got bored of trying to read while listening to CR. CR is winning lol)
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Well we can like increase it right? I know I've had an angry orchard maybe there's like something that made you laugh recently? I'm not good at the funny thing but Critical Role has funny moments some times.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
"Oh we're in the Elemental Plane of Fire, bit far from where you were. "
"I can't just refer to all of you as Bell's Hells, Bell's Hell's, Bell's Hells. "
Help #dying
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
That’s like not good. Are you like able to read or do you wanna reaction test me or something?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade