Open 869 | Fight for the Winter Court [Game Over!]

[Isis]

I also tr Coral; have a blank for absinthe.

Last time I played with fferyl she was kind of blank to me and I just read her predecessor because she was a replacement.
It's scum indicative that shes not making more of an impression.

[catboi]

Catboi isn’t screaming “Math is scum” constantly. So if Catboi is the town there’s a possibility they will see I am town and you’re the scum.

So, uh, for the record, the slot you are in replaced out because I got in a huge shitfight with its prior occupant because I had been mostly convinced he was scum. I'm not saying I'm giving you no chance, but. My inclination was toward voting skitter before that happened. You can figure out whether you're okay with that or not.

[MathBlade]

i mean tbf that's kinda what i feel like if you're town too
i do want to get there tho >.>

maybe it's easier for me to solve this thru catboi idk
i did strongly think it was prism-town at daystart, just a little worried i was getting snowed

That’s the beauty of it.

This isn’t traditional “find the scum elim them”. It’s convince the world you’re town.

Finding out which of you is scum is secondary to winning.

Whoever votes me causes us to win the mini game and then de facto will have solved it.

My investigation energy is best spent on other games not my own.

[catboi]

I also tr Coral; have a blank for absinthe.

Last time I played with fferyl she was kind of blank to me and I just read her predecessor because she was a replacement.
It's scum indicative that shes not making more of an impression.

tbf she is V/LA right now and I think there's an inclination to bias yourself toward townread someone if they're actually present and saying stuff like Coral is, but my reread of her ISO didn't give me a whole lot.

[MathBlade]

Catboi isn’t screaming “Math is scum” constantly. So if Catboi is the town there’s a possibility they will see I am town and you’re the scum.

So, uh, for the record, the slot you are in replaced out because I got in a huge shitfight with its prior occupant because I had been mostly convinced he was scum. I'm not saying I'm giving you no chance, but. My inclination was toward voting skitter before that happened. You can figure out whether you're okay with that or not.

Awesome. /s

No wonder the game state is so tilted.

Then it sounds like we’ve got an uphill battle on both sides not just Skitter’s.

Because I know one of you is wrong.

[Isis]

I also tr Coral; have a blank for absinthe.

Last time I played with fferyl she was kind of blank to me and I just read her predecessor because she was a replacement.
It's scum indicative that shes not making more of an impression.

tbf she is V/LA right now and I think there's an inclination to bias yourself toward townread someone if they're actually present and saying stuff like Coral is, but my reread of her ISO didn't give me a whole lot.

I had the same reads EoD1 when absinthe was active. Actually if I think about it my EoD1 read for the slots that eventually got to keep would be "idk but maybe catboi town?" and that's similar too.

The biggest change d2 for me is cooling a lot on demona's slot, liking Chara more by comparison and figuring out some less paranoid basises for why it picked wall the way it did.

If I decide to play with a little less ego and sheep Coral more I'd rather keep believing I can read Chara rather that squeeze a townread of you I can't seem to articulate well.

[catboi]

Catboi isn’t screaming “Math is scum” constantly. So if Catboi is the town there’s a possibility they will see I am town and you’re the scum.

So, uh, for the record, the slot you are in replaced out because I got in a huge shitfight with its prior occupant because I had been mostly convinced he was scum. I'm not saying I'm giving you no chance, but. My inclination was toward voting skitter before that happened. You can figure out whether you're okay with that or not.

Awesome. /s

No wonder the game state is so tilted.

Then it sounds like we’ve got an uphill battle on both sides not just Skitter’s.

Because I know one of you is wrong.

I mean, if you're town you don't need to have one of us vote for you to win.

[catboi]

I also tr Coral; have a blank for absinthe.

Last time I played with fferyl she was kind of blank to me and I just read her predecessor because she was a replacement.
It's scum indicative that shes not making more of an impression.

tbf she is V/LA right now and I think there's an inclination to bias yourself toward townread someone if they're actually present and saying stuff like Coral is, but my reread of her ISO didn't give me a whole lot.

I had the same reads EoD1 when absinthe was active. Actually if I think about it my EoD1 read for the slots that eventually got to keep would be "idk but maybe catboi town?" and that's similar too.

The biggest change d2 for me is cooling a lot on demona's slot, liking Chara more by comparison and figuring out some less paranoid basises for why it picked wall the way it did.

If I decide to play with a little less ego and sheep Coral more I'd rather keep believing I can read Chara rather that squeeze a townread of you I can't seem to articulate well.

fair enough re: having the reads day 1, I think even if coral is town there's no particular reason to believe her reads are any good though. I think demona being scum is a distinct possibility, the one thing that gave me pause was her complaining when I fosed her in a way that reminded me of her town response to pressure but I don't know how capable she is of replicating that as scum. I am kind of hoping we just go 2/2 so it doesn't have to be a concern.

[MathBlade]

Catboi isn’t screaming “Math is scum” constantly. So if Catboi is the town there’s a possibility they will see I am town and you’re the scum.

So, uh, for the record, the slot you are in replaced out because I got in a huge shitfight with its prior occupant because I had been mostly convinced he was scum. I'm not saying I'm giving you no chance, but. My inclination was toward voting skitter before that happened. You can figure out whether you're okay with that or not.

Awesome. /s

No wonder the game state is so tilted.

Then it sounds like we’ve got an uphill battle on both sides not just Skitter’s.

Because I know one of you is wrong.

I mean, if you're town you don't need to have one of us vote for you to win.

No I literally do.

My skills are well…bad. The best chance we have to win is if one of you votes me.

I do not trust myself to reach the right conclusion.

[Coral]

If I decide to play with a little less ego and sheep Coral more I'd rather keep believing I can read Chara rather that squeeze a townread of you I can't seem to articulate well.

I wouldn't recommend sheeping me on Wall at this point

A lot of the absinthe interactions made me doubt on Chara and I wouldn't be confident voting there anymore.

[Coral]

@math like from my pov i don't see why scum-you cant vote yourself, so it doesnt really convince me of everything

And i'm confused why you arent trying to solve/talk to catboi
Like even if you think i'm scum i'm confused ehy you wouldnt try to verify that by making sure you do, indeed, townread the other person

@catboi does math change how you're approaching this minigame at all?

I mean, hm, I don't want to act like I'm shutting him out because that would be rude but...so far his behavior feels like he's trying to sell people on voting him more than assessing our alignments. I also think that if I work from an assumption of absinthe being scum, it points more strongly toward you being town and faker being scum.

Can you go into this a little more? I think it points to both of them being town, but more strongly to Faker being town. What do you think Faker was doing with the approach to absinthe?

[Coral]

I know you said "I don't actually have to explain this" but I think it's important to support that claim because it seems unbelievable to me.

[Isis]

It might snow too much for me to go see my partner

[Tempest]

Well I want to sort Isis and Chara and gathering everyone's vibe on each of them would help, like you just indicated with Chara. ( I dunno where I got Chela out of Chara so sorry Chara ). This sees like a fairly straightforward game. Have there been any big waves for or against anyone in the wall?

Your slot was towered by a few people yesterday for mostly tonal reasons. Isis and Chara have had some suspicion on them from a couple different sources. However, yesterday was mostly a wash as there wasn't a ton of solving from many people since we did a lot of setup talk and trying to put people in their places. Since there wasn't much solving yesterday, or at least any that provided much confidence in reads, most people are resetting and picking up with today.

Have you read Isis and Chara yet? Do you have any thoughts on either of them?

[Tempest]

I'm still finishing up reading yesterday, but I'm home now and will be spending the evening watching tv and catching up here.

[MathBlade]

Looking forward to your catch up. I’ve been stuck adulting so haven’t had time to read,

This is an elaborate prod dodge as I am unsure how much time I will have because of Christmas.

[catboi]

I know you said "I don't actually have to explain this" but I think it's important to support that claim because it seems unbelievable to me.

no actually i don't owe you jack shit lmfao

[Coral]

You're right. You don't owe anyone anything. I hope you're enjoying yourself.

[Chara]

i hope you're able to see your partner Isis. :<

[Chara]

i do kind of want to flip Gate first, are there thoughts on that?

i don't have much new to say, but... Isis, what are these less paranoid ideas for why i picked Wall how i did? i know we talked about it but given Herta hasn't done much readable to me yet while catching up, we may as well chat if you're up for it.

hoping to see some thoughts from you soon Tempest, the direction would be really appreciated if you're able.

[Chara]

I know you said "I don't actually have to explain this" but I think it's important to support that claim because it seems unbelievable to me.

no actually i don't owe you jack shit lmfao

i am still curious about the apparent strength of your reads on Coral/absinthe, i don't see what's so bad about absinthe's reads that you think she isn't informed, if that's what you were saying.

[absinthe]

I'm back. May or may not catch up tonight.

[Chara]

so, here's why i don't think skitter is scum. kitty's expressed intentions to vote her for the whole day, so even if skitter is scum who is scumread by Math, it's fine if she just waits for kitty to eventually vote her and keeps playing how she is, but the way she's approaching Mathblade and the timing of her frustrations doesn't fit for me for scum skitter who doesn't need Math's vote to begin with when kitty is here strongly favouring the skitter vote and (since kitty's town in this scum skitter scenario) presumably trustworthy to put his vote where his mouth is.

[Chara]

i'm not saying scum skitter doesn't try to speak yo town Mathblade like she is now, i just don't think she has this underlying feeling of frustration.

and edit while writing this followup post: i'm less sure than i was of this after a reread, skitter's not really as *heavy sigh* as i remember which is annoying, she could be playing cautious while she waits out kitty's vote i suppose.

[Chara]

we probably win Keep as long as no one votes catboi anyways, so i suppose it's fine?