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Post Post #7900 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:13 pm

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Post Post #7901 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:59 pm

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In post 7897, T-Bone wrote:
In post 7859, professotic wrote:
In post 7843, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7837, professotic wrote:That’s really fucking bad solve lmao.

Firebringer is fine but the Lunar solve you have is a fucking joke.

After what both have done your just gonna continue with your read on them?
It’s a lazy “oh I’ll just name the low posters” wolf pin.
It’s something a wolf does, again makes me believe you to be a wolf here.
No offense, but you're literally trying to hero solve by clinging onto what is possible instead of probable. I think I have blatantly been trying to solve, and you're letting people coast because ________ (fill in the blank).

If mastina is scum, why does my slot try to save her? And furthermore, why does my PoE not make sense to you?
If I wasn’t trying to hero solve, Porkens and RR wouldn’t have went over.
So nice try.
Those flips were both because of me, thanks for your help though.
I voted Porkens first cause I changed my mind on Ydrasse.
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Post Post #7902 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:01 pm

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In post 7899, T-Bone wrote:I know that's gonna set you off and it's not meant to. But I was the tipping point of doing the lurker lim on Porkens over Ydrasse, and did the hard arguing for it... and since I had received the fake message from that slot I confirmed RR as scum. I'm only pointing this out because you're claiming credit for things that were outside your control, even if they were outcomes you approved of. And that's part of the reason why you're getting pushback from other players. Play for the town team if you're town rather than team Prof.
You only pushed it after I voted Porkens cause I felt Ydrasse was gonna flip town and still kinda do.
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Post Post #7903 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:06 pm

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In post 5433, MegAzumarill wrote:

Dusk 2 Final VC

Furtiveglance (7) Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Meuh, Ydrasse, Radical Rat, Scarfmanship, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant [Hammer]

Enchant (3) Furtiveglance, Toogeloo, Firebringer

Toogeloo (1) T-bone,

Not Voting (2) Past Present Future, Mathblade,

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Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-27 20:08:28)

I will however give Credit where it’s due.
T-Bone did vote Maid Cafe Slot during the Furtive wagon which to me indicates the dude is never Solar and you also have RR trying to pocket him on top of that.

(Thus why I am saying Yume Slot (CSF) is trying to pocket/pocketed Mastina Slot (meuh) )
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Post Post #7904 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:07 pm

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I think both sides were going for the pocket play.

RR to T-Bone
Yume to Mastina
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Post Post #7905 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:07 pm

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Alright i looked on chart and that's how my readlist looks like.

Let's go with assumption that 3 are in each team.
It means among 10 ppl are 3 evil.


Meuh - Town/Lunar
Professotic - Evil?
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Magician - Lunar/Solar/Town
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Cat Scratch Fever - Lunar/Town
Enchant. Town
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Now i start poking all evidences:
Meuh

All Meuh results are Sun. Of course: If you are Lunar, then giving Sun results is always safe. If you give Moon result and person turns out to be Solar, you die next quarantee. Nevermind that Solars will know you fake. It's not like you can be caught on lie anyway.
Meuh role is real, which is so far confirmed by DDS and PPF.
Acts at Noon. When Solars acts supposedly. It's confirmed atleast by two different players. Unless there's like 4+ scumteams (WHICH COULD BE POSSIBLE CONSIDERING LUNAR NEVER EVER KILLED BUT LET'S NOT) or scumteam has abilities which can act on both likely just town.
Slipped that first check was actually Lunar but corrected. I believe Meuh actually has role and therefore has no incentive to lie on this one. Mistake can happen.
So far i think Meuh are most likely town. If not, Lunar.


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Got wagoned D1. Then decided to disappear. Very useful usage of ability when unlikely to be targeted. Anti-town usage.
On otherhand, this ability is exactly more useful lategame for scum, to keep vote in ELO if endangered. It means usage of ability sucks regardless of alignment. But it's scummy anyway.
There's no 1-Shot claims yet, except for astral ghost themself. What this role supposed to inherit?
3 members in scumteam confirmed? I am surprised you not getting heat for it.
I believe scum has no incentive to pocket and protect me especially in multiball, but considering Mastina plays in House of Dragon, i actually don't know.
More likely evil tho

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

Targeting sucks. No-no you have no excuse.
Role is real. Like yeah.



and then i got bored and sleepy but i receive my towncred yea?
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Post Post #7906 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:23 pm

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No really personally i think PPF should be pressured to full claim as i don't believe them
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Post Post #7907 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:31 pm

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UNVOTE:

T-Bone, penny for your thoughts
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Post Post #7908 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:33 pm

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PPF what was your flavor?
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Post Post #7909 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:39 pm

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In post 7908, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:PPF what was your flavor?
Town beloved Princess why?
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Post Post #7910 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pm

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Because you never fullclaimed it

Your role name is just town beloved princess?
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Post Post #7911 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pm

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And Titus full claimed already. I don’t like Enchant suggesting we haven’t.

It’s in our ISO, look it up.
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Post Post #7912 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pm

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Oh i didn't think that was actually your role name
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Post Post #7913 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:45 pm

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In post 7912, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Oh i didn't think that was actually your role name
It is.
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Post Post #7914 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:53 pm

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Well unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere in my mod metadive
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Post Post #7915 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:53 pm

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In post 7905, Enchant wrote:Alright i looked on chart and that's how my readlist looks like.

Let's go with assumption that 3 are in each team.
It means among 10 ppl are 3 evil.


Meuh - Town/Lunar
Professotic - Evil?
Dingle Dangle Scarecrow - Lunar/Town
Magician - Lunar/Solar/Town
Past Present Future - Solar?
Cat Scratch Fever - Lunar/Town
Enchant. Town
Firebringer
Ydrasse
T-Bone


Now i start poking all evidences:
Meuh

All Meuh results are Sun. Of course: If you are Lunar, then giving Sun results is always safe. If you give Moon result and person turns out to be Solar, you die next quarantee. Nevermind that Solars will know you fake. It's not like you can be caught on lie anyway.
Meuh role is real, which is so far confirmed by DDS and PPF.
Acts at Noon. When Solars acts supposedly. It's confirmed atleast by two different players. Unless there's like 4+ scumteams (WHICH COULD BE POSSIBLE CONSIDERING LUNAR NEVER EVER KILLED BUT LET'S NOT) or scumteam has abilities which can act on both likely just town.
Slipped that first check was actually Lunar but corrected. I believe Meuh actually has role and therefore has no incentive to lie on this one. Mistake can happen.
So far i think Meuh are most likely town. If not, Lunar.


Professotic

Got wagoned D1. Then decided to disappear. Very useful usage of ability when unlikely to be targeted. Anti-town usage.
On otherhand, this ability is exactly more useful lategame for scum, to keep vote in ELO if endangered. It means usage of ability sucks regardless of alignment. But it's scummy anyway.
There's no 1-Shot claims yet, except for astral ghost themself. What this role supposed to inherit?
3 members in scumteam confirmed? I am surprised you not getting heat for it.
I believe scum has no incentive to pocket and protect me especially in multiball, but considering Mastina plays in House of Dragon, i actually don't know.
More likely evil tho

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

Targeting sucks. No-no you have no excuse.
Role is real. Like yeah.



and then i got bored and sleepy but i receive my towncred yea?

Do you like this readslist? His reads on pretty much everyone are all over the place and noncommittal. Like he has Magician as Lunar/Solar/town for example. He doesn’t have a single confident tr except maybe Meuh who he’s also shading, then he left Fire, Ydrasse and T-Bone blank.
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Post Post #7916 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:55 pm

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In post 7914, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Well unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere in my mod metadive
Your what?
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Post Post #7917 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:55 pm

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In post 7914, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Well unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere in my mod metadive
Your what?
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Post Post #7918 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:59 pm

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I unvoted because i've never seen that much effort from him and need to think. I'm not sure about the professotic scumslip read- as I've said, i think that's a bit of a reach considering we're all kind of assuming 3 scum.

He's also said he town reads TBone and scumreads firebringer btw
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Post Post #7919 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:00 am

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In post 7917, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7914, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Well unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere in my mod metadive
Your what?
Checking the mod's posting history to get an idea of what factional abilities may exist, especially for lunar
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Post Post #7920 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:07 am

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In post 7905, Enchant wrote:Alright i looked on chart and that's how my readlist looks like.
What's your analysis of my slot?
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Post Post #7921 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:08 am

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In post 7919, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7917, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7914, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Well unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere in my mod metadive
Your what?
Checking the mod's posting history to get an idea of what factional abilities may exist, especially for lunar
Enchant can effort/non-effort as any alignment. He efforted a lot in Trees as town and in E/O Killers as SK and most recently as Nobility and the Dark Angel as scum. One of the reasons I locktowned him in that (N @ the DA) because he made a comment about the scumteam being incompetent which he also did in Trees, so I no longer think his comment wrt to MMR botched fakeclaim couldn’t also come from scum.
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Post Post #7922 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:11 am

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Also I find the timing of his sudden concern with my role interesting. When we were doing a claims’ list he said nothing but now it’s suddenly important to him?
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Post Post #7923 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:13 am

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He also had no comment when Titus made the initial claim, so why now? The timing of it just seems really strange to me.
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Post Post #7924 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:14 am

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Okay based on a superficial skim, he does look pretty Solvey in the dark angel game. It's getting late though, ill read it more closely tomorrow when i can understand the setup

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